Trust me this was a huge story here and there was a ton of outrage when the police chief declared that the officers did nothing wrong and it was all by the book which is what the Police claimed from the moment the scandal hit the media. Even the solicitor general (like an Attorney General) even raised concerns over what a mess this whole sting operation was turning into. Lots of people, lawyers, journalists, organisations were claiming that the Police chief was whitewashing the whole affair to protect those involved and to absolve the Police from any misconduct
I did make a post with a bunch of links, but it got put forth for review by Techdirt I believe because of the links so I am not sure if it will be allowed to be posted. I dont know if there is another way to post for the links for you as to not get Techdirt or myself in trouble
Here are some links I was able to dig up some of the injusticebusters pages have several of the stories down the page archived from the various media outlets so you can read along, it isn't in greatest chronological order but it will give you some background on how this all unfolded.
I have also posted links to a separate story below how one of our cities Police officers allegedly targeted a defense lawyer because he didnt like the fact that the defense lawyer instructed him to remain silent. This was also a case of the Police trying to get the defense lawyer on a drunk driving charge
I will say this, I sure the hell dont trust the Police here, and this isnt the first time
Hope that I dont catch shit over posting the links to the events of the sting on the journalist and the police commissioner and the defense lawyer targeted by the cops. Hate to get Mike in any more grief
This is nothing but Hood going for retribution as a way to get back at Google for the embarrassment he suffered from the MPAA/Hood fiasco and using the EFF's complaint to do that.
Hood doesn't even attempt to change much in the complaint other then add in his own two cents to make it applicable to Mississippi, and In my opinion very thinly at that.
Everyone knows that Hood being exposed as an MPAA puppet via info from the Sony Pictures hack made him look like a clown with the big floppy shoes and red nose and Google held Hood's feet to the fire and pursued it in court and you know Hood took a beating over that politically and in the media and I am sure his ego was more than a little hurt at being exposed.
The MPAA didn't like that they got caught with their pants down in this fiasco either not did the law firm that drafted the Hood complaint used against Google in the first go round, a lot of people took a ego thumping that day and were exposed as shills of the MPAA but no one more than Hood.
Hood hasnt exactly been able to get back at Google for dragging him thru the mud, but this is just one step to try and get a little payback.
The irony here is that Hood is using the EFF's own complaint to once again go after Google just shows you that much like the first time Hood used the MPAA drafted complaint, that using someone else's work to get the dirty deed is right up Hood's alley and there doesn't seem to be one original thought to come out of Hoods head.
Makes me wonder how the hell did Hood get elected to office as the Mississippi AG when he cant seem to come up with anything on his own.
I was just about to state the same opinion in that this shouldn't be a request, it should be mandated upon them that this needs to be in place and operational or have the US DOJ have the state police or a federal Law Enforcement agency over see every officer involved shooting.
Philly PD is well known to look after it's own within the Blue Wall and that is nothing new, one has to remember this is cops investigating cops within their own department and IA guys who have come up thru the very ranks of the Philly PD.
Let me tell a little story here about how the Police investigating their own goes. My friend that I have known since grade school and thru college joined the Police department right after he graduated from college. My friend started out as a patrolman, then after 5 years he applied to be part of the Police Tactical Unit and was on that unit for 6 years, then became a Sargent, and a few years later became an Inspector.
We talk off and on about some of the cases he , see's some of the crimes and criminals and some of the failure of the parole, and Justice system.
A while back there were some very high profile stories going on in the media that were picked up locally and then nationally about one police commission member (who is a lawyer and a civilian member of that commission) who was very very critical and outspoken about some of the cases that were profiled by the media about Police abusing their powers in several incidents were the public was put at risk and were use of force was used unlawfully and this was reported by a member of the local media who was also critical of the police.
There was a mixer one night at a local restraint where it was for all the members of the media and their organisation, this included people from all facets including law enforcement. The police department were not very happy with this two outspoken critics of it, and unofficially it was decided within the higher ranks that these two critics would be targeted and put on a list to be treated with extreme caution.
At this media association mixer those two people were there (the lawyer/ civilian member of the police commission and the journalist) Our Police department sent in officers undercover in civilian clothing to "observe" those two critics. Now there was dinner and drinks served at the mixer. One of the reporters who attended the mixer overheard one of the undercover officers phoning in to his superiors that the "two targets" (who the cop mentioned by their last names) were here and drinking and that they should mount a surveillance OP to catch them driving under the influence. The journalist upon hearing that warned his colleague of what he overheard.
So a hastily mounted undercover surveillance operation was put in place with undercover officers inside the restaurant and outside in the parking lot and surrounding area with sight lines and a couple patrol cars stationed close by to effect the traffic stop on both of the critics.
At one point the Police thought that the journalist had left the mixer as the undercover officers doing surveillance inside the restaurant lost sight of him ( he was inside the managers officer thanking him it turned out for how the event was very successful and that he appreciate all the staff and his hard work in making sure it went off smoothly)
So The Undercover Officer reported this news back to his superior and the superior had an unmarked police surveillance vehicle drive to the critic journalists house to check and see if the journalists car was at home (which it wasnt ) and the officer reported that back to the superior in charge of the operation back at the restaurant.
All the while the undercover surveillance team and the patrol members waiting in the wings were chatting over the Police departments radio system about the critics and saying some unkind and disrespectful things and laying out how things would progress for the stop and "the reason" for the stop would be that they received "a Tip" from an unknown member of the public (remember know they had two undercover officers inside the restaurant ) that two people would be leaving there driving drunk.
The police commission member never drove to the restaurant so when he left the mixer he took a cab home which the surveillance team members noticed and chatted about how "they would have to get him another time" over the police radio.
The Journalist tipped by his colleague that the Police were out to get him only had a couple drinks as he was the emcee of the event and took a cab home, once again noted by the surveillance team and chatted about over the police radio system with accompanying disparaging remarks about the journalist professional, personally and his sexuality and overall appearance.
The surveillance team was ordered to "wrap the OP up as it was unsuccessful and that they would wait for the next opportunity".
The journalist who was targeted shared the information of what his journalist colleague over heard the undercover officer placed inside the restaurant say to the superior over the phone with the police commission member, both the Journalist and the Police Commission member launched complaints with the Chief of Police about the surveillance operation placed on them as a form of retaliation for being critical of the Police Department (which it was)
The story was then reported by the Journalist critical of the police Department at his newspaper and then picked up be other print and TV news station locally and then nationally
There was a ton of outrage from all print and TV media station as well as Journalist organisations, Criminal Lawyer Defense associations, fellow Police Commission members and the public.
At first the Chief did nothing and the pressure from the aforementioned organisations and the local and national media ramped up along with public outrage forced the Police Chief to have the Internal Affairs department investigate the "sting operation"
A member of the police department leaked part of the radio communications from the surveillance operation on the critic police commission member and the Journalist to the media, and it started a firestorm in that the Police who were claiming that the "undercover sting operation" was launched due to a "citizen" complaint about a couple impaired drivers who were going to drink and drive from this mixer and would be a hazard to the public.
The local and national Media and Criminal Defense Lawyers organisation were highly convinced that due to the leaked police radio communications from the surveillance operation that the so called "Tip" from a citizen was really from one of the undercover officers in the restaurant who was overheard by the fellow journalist colleague of the targeted critical Journalist and it was being said that the so called "tip" from the public was to hide the fact that police had launched this sting out of retaliation against its critics illegally.
Well the Internal Affairs investigation was announced at a press conference to quiet the outrage and get the temperature tuned down from boiling over the outrage that was going on about the so called undercover sting operation.
As the Internal Affairs investigation was underway, members of the police department internal baseball league were playing a game ( these are teams made up from various different entities and departments and stations within the Police force within the city) One of the teams was wearing new white t-shirts that had a big picture of a rat on it with a red circle and a line thru the circle (like a no entry you'd see on a sign) and had a code number on the bottom of the shirt ( that code number corresponded to a police 10 code for the rodent called a rat )
When a picture came about of the police baseball team members wearing the "No Rats" T-shirt leaked to the media it launched another firestorm that there were members of the Police department wearing the "No Rats" t-shirts to send a warning to their fellow officer to not "Rat" on their colleagues to the Internal Affairs investigators looking into the undercover sting operation of the two critics of the Police Service.
When the media dug up the fact that he Police Union Association had ordered and paid for the T-Shirts and gave them out to the Police Baseball Team members to wear, that went over like a led balloon with the public, Media and criminal Defense lawyers, and the Police Union Association denied that the shirts were worn to send the message to their colleagues to not "rat" on their fellow members while this investigation was taking place.
It later came about that records of who the officers were assigned to that undercover sting operation went missing as did the paperwork authorizing the OP and its approval also went missing along with some other of the other radio communications from that operation.
There were 12 to 15 officers involved in the sting operation (the exact number couldn't be ascertained due to the record going missing. Officers assigned to the undercover sting operation were not charged or disciplined because there was no record of who was there (even though the journalist who heard the undercover officer inside the restaurant make the phone call and the conversation pointed out who this cop was , the cop denied he was there for that and was just having dinner with a friend who was also the other undercover officer that night, and both denied knowing anything about it at all )
No one who authorized and approved the Operation was disciplined or fired. The only real punishment handed out was to the Police PR person who crafted the press releases before the internal affairs investigation was initiated by the Police Chief about how there was nothing to see here and all is well etc etc etc. The Police PR person was docked pay and demoted for a short period of time
The media reported that the Law Firm the outspoken Police Commission Member worked at did a lot of work with the Police Department and in court defending officers of wrong doing. Rumor has it that the Police Department put pressure on the law firm to have him made a partner at the firm which would take him off the Police Comission and what do you know that is exactly what happened.
The critic Journalist launched a civil lawsuit and a complaint with Justice Department along with his complaint to the Police Chief. The lawsuit is ongoing and the reporter has stated publicly the money from the lawsuit would be donated to charity.
The Internal Affairs investigation only resulted in punishment and demotion of the Police Department PR flack and one Sargent who had his hours docked. The Police Association Union allows its union members to donate their overtime hours to their fellow colleagues in times of need like say if your hours are docked for instance.
I talked with my friend about this case, and I said so what is this Internal Affairs investigation like, he looked at me and said, the IA investigators will ask the least pointed questions and not dig very deep... basically he said the IA investigators will say "Did you do this?" "No. Okay good" "Did you do that?" "No. Okay good" "Know who might be involved" "No? Okay then Thanks for your help"
Here is what I would like to know, who at the FBI brought the idea forward and approached the folks at Best Buy HQ's and proposed this idea?
Who at Best Buy HQ thought this would be great that the employees would get $500.00 for the info, so if the employee was getting $500.00 what was Best Buy's cut then? No way they were doing this to be a good citizen and how did they think violating their customers privacy was a-ok to do?
Several people at Best Buy HQ are responsible for having their staff act as agents for the FBI under teh guise of fixing someone computer issues, but yet it seems onlt the geek squad employees are taking the hit.
The Chinese goverment gets what it wants, I am sure they told Apple if you want to sell your wares here, then you play by our rules, removing the NYT app is part of Apple being allowed to do business in China.
The Chinese goverment want to control where and how it's people get the news , the sanitized version and any outside news sources not controlled by China are not on that list.
I wonder when the FBI will be looking at Hansmeier's Class Action Justice Institute where Hans was going around to class action suits and putting a notice forth that one of his clients was an Objector to the Class Action settlement
( btw, did I mention who Hans clients were... well lets see, there was his Dad Gordon, His Wife Padirigin Browne, Hans Law Clerk in his office, and a friend of his that's a personal trainer )
Hans wife was his client (how did she end up joining this she bought a $5 dollar groupon coupon to enable her to file an objection) when Hans was objecting to the Groupon Class Action settlement and Hans had one of his team send the Groupon Class Action lawyers a letter saying that his client (his wife)would not file her objection for $30k if that wasnt received within a certain time period, then they would file their Objection to the settlement.
Needless to say that "offer" to not object for $30k went over like a lead ballon and the class Action counsel informed the Judge of this and the Judge had some unkind things to say.
You can read that story at this link (Hope the FBI is doing some reading as well)
And this isn't even the end of it yet, these ass clown still have the IRS waiting in the wings to pile on some charges and this will be further evidence to add to their case.
So much like Prenda deciding to cut out the middle man (which were the actual real porn companies) they are now starting to cut out people who they were supposedly suing for and in support of this group. It never stops with these guys, always a bigger cut of the pie.
Nice to know that their greed is still their downfall, and now that Hans wife brown is in this and those members from the Disability Support Alliance are now supposedly filing their own ADA suits Pro Se (except the one filed with Hansmerier's wife name on it...Ooops) We may be witnessing the next house of cards falling down in this scheme.
If Hans wife isnt careful she is going to have the cell Next to Steele and her Husband
Is there a cost to providing FOIA information sure, are the costs cited by these three agencies a true picture of what it would take or is this obfuscation, I would bet that it is the later.
When an agency doesn't want to provide you the information you seek because they dont want you to have a true picture of what has happened then this is the exact opposite of what the FOIA is all about and those who purposely try to deny access to the info are in violation of the act.
Federal, state and civic goverment and their relate entities love to use high FOIA access costs to thwart releasing what they dont want a requester to see, and this is totally not open, accessible and transparent government that the people are being told over and over again what they are going to receive.
The fact that the court found that DRIPA was illegal and that the mass level of spying on the citizens is wrong, the problem is that the UK wont put a limit on what DRIPA can hoover up, they want it all.
Even though the court says it is illegal the UK government has not intention of stopping the mass spying and hoover up of information that they have been doing and are loathe to give it up.
If the Courts still find it illegal , the UK Government will just either hide what they are doing better, or they will enact legislation to keep on spying and hoovering all the information they can.
This is no different than what Government's around the world are doing right now, and will continue to expand these programs all in the name of security and fighting terrorism and what ever else they deem the cause to be so they can continue on.
Th scary thing is this happens every day to everyday citizens because the cops like to stick ever bit of information they can glean from interaction with a person into police only databases that they share with other law enforcement agencies.
Don't think this happens with just police databases either, this can happen with credit bureaus, Insurance companies , your workplace, your heath records, background checks and on and on. Most people have no idea how much your information is out there and available to anyone.
Notice those little disclosures that say "we may share your information with third parties that we interact with in the course of our business" That means you information is for sale. And everyone does this and a lot of people dont know it and the governments allow it because it is a commodity instead of being private.
This cop was lucky to know who to go after and where the information went and how to get it removes, your average person has no idea this is going on even, and it's all fucking legal thanks to the governments allowing this to happen.
This needs to change but the government has no balls to change it because lobbyists and companies all want to make a buck of you. And as for trying to find out what information a police agency has on you and getting it removed, good luck with that