There isn't supposed to be any requirement for US citizens to carry ID while in the United States. I suspect this doesn't stop overenthusiastic law enforcement officers from deporting people who look too Latin. I also bet it's difficult to track how many Americans get deported.
But considering that American citizens got Gitmo'd (or Extraordinarily Rendered) to get tortured and detained indefinitely without due process, I suspect that, yes, a proportionate number of Americans are regularly deported to nations where they are not citizens. And few people bother to try to track them down.
So Clinton's basket of deplorables commentwas referring to 32 million voters, now that we have the results. That compares to the:
42 million black Americans that Trump generalized as all being in ghettos on welfare and have nothing to lose. He calls them the blacks and seeks to facilitate the system that channels them into prisons and graves. I believe he imagines the blacks will be Miss Housekeeping once we expatriate all the Latins.
55 million Latin Americans that Trump regards as criminal and illegal Americans, even saying they're rapists. Considering that there's no required documentation to be an American (yet) it'll be interesting to see if he errs on evicting two many illegals or too few.
3 million Muslim Americans that Trump is considering registering or even interning. I wonder how long it's going to be before we decide it's too expensive sustaining all these Muslims, and we have a Muslim Problem
125 women in the United states (which shares cross section with the groups above) that Trump feels it is acceptable to sexually assault and harass, even when they are underage.
Considering the policies and staff selections by Trump, these attitudes do not appear to have changed since after the election.
Anonymous Coward if, in order for a party to win an election in the United States, they need to offer demagogues and monsters as candidates who imply permission to the rest of us to forgo civilization for our baser (more tribal) natures, I'd regard the United States as a failure, and would rather keep losing and instead retain my personal integrity.
But that's just me. I understand that for Trump losing is so terrible a prospect that he will lie, cheat and even murder in order to say he's won.
PS: I, too, cringed at Clinton's basket of deplorables line too, but as with many matters, there seems to be an abundance of eagerness to look at Clinton's scandals and not compare them or contrast them to the cornucopia of scandals and problems that surround Trump.
It's like Trump gets special exceptions in the minds of those who've decided he's the new hero of the United States.
And that, to me is more troubling than Trump himself. Are we really that gullible? That manipulable? Is it really that hard to see his authoratariansim? His complete lack of morality? His psychopathia?
Part of the problem is that the justice system has no checks or balances for lapses in judgement.
When a judge shows a lapse in judgement innocent people go to prison for life. Innocent people die.
So no, until our system is such that it takes three judges (or nine) to sign a warrant, until the fourth amendment is stringently enforced, until we criminalize use of new technology for detection until it is rigorously tested and regulated, until we tolerate not one false positive dog sniff (or any other test to get probable cause)...
Then no. One incident of a lapse in judgement should disbar a prosecutor, dismissal of a judge, or the firing of an officer with prejudice.
People die from lapses in judgement within our legal system, and for that we have no respect for the legal system. It's only there because they hold the guns and they use the guns to stay in position.
Somehow, I suspect that when there are genuine public interests (such as security vulnerabilities in common OSes and software, which are very much in the public interest to disclose and secure) that they won't be so regarded and revealed.
So yeah, it will be used selectively by law enforcement to stir shit.
Perhaps this informs us that there should be actual advocates of public interest that have the ability to veto law enforcement action (including disclosure or non-disclosure) when not doing those things would actually be in the interests of the public.
It might be a step back towards, you know, law enforcement by consent.
I agree that they're both pretty terrible, and this election should serve as an indictment as to the failure of our electoral system (and if we cannot manage reform it, the ultimate failure of democracy in the United States), but for those of us still trying to work within the confines of the system, Hillary remains a better choice.
One of the things that is horrific to me, at least regarding those Trump supporters I know or hear from on the internet (including relatives in STEM fields who should be completely capable of thinking it through and don't) is that they seem to assume that Trump really is some kind of answer, that they can vote for their lying, word-salad-tossing, woman-assaulting, grudge-persecuting, violence-inciting demagogue and everything will be done. They appear to believe can just sit back and wait for the economy to turn around and America to become great again, because daddy Trump will take care of them.
For the rest of us, activism doesn't end on election day. We still have countless issues that neither candidate has on its agenda. We still have to push at the president that real issues need to be addressed, or they'll suffer embarrassment, or worse.
The thing is, Trump won't care. His response to embarrassment is to do something even more embarrassing, repeat until the public is saturated. In the meantime he'll be jailing his personal enemies, and looking for how to start a real nuclear war.
This is where Clinton's position as an old school politician comes in. She can be embarrassed. She recognizes that some of these issues are real or at least has advisors she might actually listen to. She understands (for instance) torture and mass surveillance are ultimately wrong even if she may have conceded they are temporary necessary evils, and the less temporary they are the more problems they cause.
Her opinion can evolve with enough pressure.
Trump is a laser guided missile for whatever staffer figures out how to point the missile. Honest, honest Iago is going to get fabulously rich, much like Halliburton with Cheney directing Bush, all the while wrecking the nation, possibly to the point that we'll never recover.
Trump is a puppet, and if he is not already controlled by someone (Putin?) then it's only a matter of time before someone finds where to put their hand.