Re: Re: "even [FOR 3RD TIME] pointing out that these operations exist will grab you a heaping helping of anonymous troll scorn."
This was my comment, I forgot I hadn't signed in.
And let me add, I am so sick to death of this mentality. As if the US controls the whole fucking world. As if IT is the source of fascism and not the most reactionary religious theocratic fascism the planet has ever seen in the form of the Islamic state.
How can people such as the above moron call themselves Leftists at all? "US doing a mission of 'liberation'? LOL! Suicide bombers resisting the Iraq occupation? THAT'S totally liberation! Like the march of the Minute Men!" As the Islamic fascists butcher and slaughter without any hint of empathy for Iraqis.
It doesn't get enough condemnation. Even the "right" of America doesn't come down hard enough on it. It persists and is expected to be taken at face value with no criticism among these circles. As if the US is 100% evil/worse than Hitler and that is the end of the conversation.
I wonder how history books will judge such armchair crackpots.
And I highly doubt everybody has forgotten the said links that were ordered to be removed.
And I highly doubt Google's links to THOSE links have been made to be removed either.
We're living in a wish-thinking world if we think this will do anything to attack piracy. If we've learned anything from the stupidity of the war on drugs, it is that if there is a majority demand in a black market, it will always cause a supply for that black market no matter how many times you attack the supply. Some conservatives think you should deter against the demand in the drug war by bringing in harsher punishments for possessers, but everyone knows deterrents are all talk if you can't enforce them. What bloody fool thinks you can enforce a deterrent against an infringing downloader?
It says a lot that this court is going after Google on a global scale instead of their ISPs on a local scale.
It is the ISPs that provide access to out-of-state Google domains which are not under the state's jurisdiction. They should be the prime target, not a body that is not within local jurisdiction.
But irrational Google-hatred knows no bounds. I've said this a million times, there are very good reasons to be hostile to Google: its tax dodging, its monopoly powers, its corporate lobbying, all the traditional working-class-against-the-ruling-class stances etc. But it's incredible how they are the last things people want to bash Google for.
I looked forward to seeing millions of you marching against the imperialist, irredentist invasion of Ukraine by a Putin-revived-Tsarist Russia when it happened. I don't think it reached even a thousand.
If you're paying $100K for something you know you can get by much cheaper means, you are a moron. There's no other way of putting it. That's the simplest explanation.
And if anything, copyright makes this WORSE. The fools paying this amount of money are doing so precisely because they think there is artificial scarcity behind these transformatives. That has to be why they are not going out to make their own copies of what they see in the exhibit in private, which is what any sensible person would have done.
If you want to help people to stop paying tons of money for copies of your work that were done without your permission, I recommend you eliminate the idea of permission for copies. That way there's no incentive for folk to pay so much for something so forgeable. "If you paid for this free fansub, you were ripped off!" is not a slogan in fan-subbed anime for no reason.
We need to make the incentive to pay artists come from assurance contracts and not this farce of an economic system that is as good as a monetary system of JPEG dollars. If you pay the artist before the work is done, and millions of folk do it depending on popularity, you get a system where the artist is at liberty to ask for whatever price he/she wants without having to depend on nonsense like this where some copies end up more equal than others, and beyond any kind of control of the artist.
I reckon Godwin's Law is thrown around too easy. There are legitimate reasons to bring up the Nazi regime, and Hitler's attempt to use copyright to prevent American's from knowing about his intentions has grave implications that surely don't need spelling out. Slogans of "death to fascism" should never be in short supply, and it is hard to mount such protest when you are not allowed to even read about your enemy in your own language. Same with the great religious conflicts of the past 100 years.
If you believe in copyright you have to believe in forbidding certain languages. You have to believe in forbidding derivatives. You have to believe in forbidding blasphemous content that is by definition an "unauthorised infringement". It is in no way disingenuous to bring up unwelcome powers that copyright advocates themselves claim should be given away so lightly.
These are uncomfortable observations that I have not heard a satisfactory rebuttal for.
And I should clarify that this is if copyright law were even possible to enforce in the first place, which I believe it is not. This push for literary opposition regardless of the papacy's probable petty claims of thought-property would have happened even if they had copyright protection.
If it WERE possible to enforce, it would clearly not be desirable for the reasons I've given. Copyright is not something that can work and it is not something that we should want even if it did.
My point is that copyright would have nonetheless been a useful weapon in the hands of these killers in putting down revolutions.
They couldn't kill EVERY believer of an opposing religious sect, sure, but they could have curbed their derivative holy books if they had the luxury of copyright law. Forever forbidding more secular derivatives of the holy books from ever seeing the light of day, and forever preserving ignorance and one-sect states.
When we ask the question "would copyright have been a hefty obstacle for reformers?", the answer can only be "yes".
If you think this was bad, consider what evil consequences would have unfolded in world history if the Bible or the Koran had been given copyright status.
Every rebellious translation and derivative would be legally crushed if not physically annihilated. The King James version would have had an injunction against it. The Reformation would have had inexcusable legal hurdles to jump.
And everybody knows how vomit-inducing it would have been if Islamofascists resorted to copyright claims of the prophet Mohammed over Charlie Hebdo in the case of a failed assassination.
It is not possible to comprehend the disgusting consequences of all of this. The only reason we pushed passed theocracy into secularism in Christianity (and what will be THE reason that will push Islam past theocracy into secularism too) was open discussion, derivatives and alternative translations of the holy books they claimed was God-mandated and God-copyrighted. Soon enough they learned, and will learn, to take God out of the equation entirely in political and philosophical atmospheres. If you believe God's holy books are infallible, you have to assume any deviation from them is an infringement, and use any means at your disposal to stop revolutions occurring against your holy order, and that ultimately means using copyright to attack derivative works of the holy books.
This is not an exaggeration. Many Islamofascists will still put people to death for reading translated Korans of any other language than Arabic because it is blasphemous - they may as well say that unauthorised translations are piracy and they infringe on their rights in order to get the end-result of quelling dissent.
No. No. No. Only a fool would think that this is all worth it in the name of defending property rights that can't even be defended because breaking copyright law is so easy.
There are claims going around that because anybody can upload anything to the App store and Apple reviews the stuff before it is put on the store, that therefore proves that copyright can be respected in a way that doesn't involve the Google/YouTube approach of stuff being uploaded first and checked afterwards, with the addition of no respect for copyright due to "whack-a-mole" and DMCA methods of takedown.
My response was to say that it's fecicious considering how Apple still profit from piracy in some way in another if the machines and the OS take part in it - that YouTube should be expected to have ContentID and take down copyrighted content while Apple is under no such obligation to fill their OS with ID checking software and reporting mechanisms to inform artists of breaches of copyright.
Apple also hosts a YouTube app, which according to hysterically-anti-Google logic makes Apple just as guilty.
Though, if Apple really DID try all of the anti-copying measures I described above it would look ridiculous to any thinking person. Though when it comes to copyright believers I'm not so sure.
See this is what happens when you believe in copyright: you end up being frustrated again and again when technology keeps moving forward.
And who's to say the internet will stop where it is now? Soon enough (if not already), GBs worth of videos will be as quickly downloadable as MP3s, and on phones to boot. Are copyright advocates the least bit prepared for the new speeds Moore's law is going to provide? Of course not.
I'm still laughing at things like Dropbox's hash-define content-ID system and how easily bypassable it is. As well as YouTube's and others.
I'm still laughing at how Apple's iTunes and App Store are hailed as examples of what a corporation can do when it "respects copyright" when I can still choose to use their internet browsers to download pirated content all for Apple's profit.
I'm still laughing at BitTorrent - the mighty monster that no copyright advocate can tame via any kind of practical suggestion to stop it at all.
I'm still laughing at the fact that the tracker files of the entire Pirate Bay website are only about 10MB in size.
I'm still laughing at the image-search websites that supposedly gives photographers means to find infringing images when these sites' hash-systems can be bypassed by one pixel and/or encryption and/or anything else.
I'm still laughing at the ISPs who will profit from all the piracy one way or another. Even toppling Google entirely won't do anything about that.
I'm still laughing at China's exporting of pirated goods to reap in the profit of foreign currencies in a way that would make Al Capone drool with envy. I'm not so sure if there has ever been a better time to be a prohibitionist profiteer.
I'm still laughing at deviantArt which strictly speaking makes a ton of profit out of piracy too.
I'm still laughing at anime conventions which strictly speaking make a ton of profit out of piracy too.
I'm still laughing at the fact that radio stations don't pay musicians properly - a very basic house that should have been in order by now. These people are meant to be trusted to enforce copyright on the internet?
I'm still laughing at the fact that copyright advocates would have stopped dissidents of the Soviet Union from reading pirated (and punishable by show trial) material to fight back against their authoritarianism, and would have stopped them in the name of "property rights".
I'm still laughing at recent Buzzfeed articles suggesting that national holidays (fucking Mother's Day) ought to have been copyrighted all the way back in the early 1900s because how else are movements meant to keep their original meanings? How else do folk preserve their right to choose what people think of their movement? Don't you realise that going out to celebrate your mother on a day of the year is PIRACY? Especially more so when you engage in activities that distort the original meaning of the day? Such as buying a card? (Look it up. I am not making this up.)
But don't worry I'm sure that when photographers finally find that a textbook on the other side of the world has been pirating their photos for 30 odd years solely because they could get away with it, their eventual suing will prove the system works. Plus you just know that copyright needs to last life plus X years because if it were reduced to 14 years, any sudden profit over a work for an artist would just vanish unfairly! How else are artists meant to make a living from idly waiting 14 years on no food before any profits come in?
It's a world of wish-thinking. What do you expect when you want to bombard the internet with legal content while removing such bombardments when it becomes illegal? It's hard enough for police to remove stuff from the internet when it's ALL illegal never mind half-illegal. And these guys depend on puny lawyers instead?
It's like if you were trying to make a country's money out of JPEGs and genuinely expecting nobody to cheat the system.
If by "what we're doing" you mean how little we are doing to resist them yes it is making them stronger. Though I will not having it said that fighting fascism is the cause of fascism. Al Qaeda are quite happy to applaud the U.S. when it callously and criminally gives Indonesia weapons to commit genocidal invasions on East Timor on the grounds that is a long lost holy Muslim land - Al Qaeda do not bomb random innocent civilians across the planet on those grounds, you can be sure. In fact, it bombs random innocents across the planet when East Timor independence is strengthened, not weakened.
Islamofascism is NOT a liberation ideology of any kind. And I find it disgraceful how we'll snicker at so-called ironies of "American liberation" before we'll long consider the mantra of this vile reactionary religious theocracy being in any fucking way for freedom and liberty. They consider women as slaves and wish to revive slavery on the modern world. They want to butcher homosexuals and throw the off cliffs. They possess a vile racism in the form of antisemitism and many other ethnic hatreds, and act on it. They want to blow up cartoonists for even suggesting to criticise them. They wish to torture and commit genocide against long surviving religious minorities - including that of other Muslims, who are supposedly their allies according to the minds of tits like Michael Moore - across the world.
What part of this is in any way a fucking liberation movement?
I wish we would grow up about this. Instead of portraying the U.S. as being the root cause of all evil of history while laughably accusing THEM of inventing boogeymen. INVENTING? The last I saw this fascist movement really does exist and really does mean harm to everybody whether the U.S. exists or not.