That's not true. Yes, they have lots of junk, but they also have a news division that has some really fantastic reporters.
Most of this story was about reporting by the Verge, not Buzzfeed.
Rather than just say "bah, Buzzfeed" how about presenting some evidence of what its report got wrong? Can't do that? Maybe because lots of other sources jumped in later supporting what Buzzfeed reported.
My problem with you is not that you are criticizing us, but that you are doing so in such a ridiculous manner. You don't like this post, fine, but you don't give any reason other than that 1. that we apparently didn't criticize Obama (we did) and 2. this is "petty".
That's your opinion and we disagree. Things related to telcos and jobs and mergers is very much what we talk about here, so this is very, very relevant. And that's my point.
I apologize if I was flip before in my response before. Perhaps it was because you started this off with such a ridiculous criticism, and you continue to use stupid nicknames for Presidents, which tends to be a sign of someone who is trolling, not serious.
I am not against progress, that is a nice way to try ti dismiss the point. Its much more a question that progress on the ability side - things we can do - has outpaced legality and societal norms. What you see is a fairly rapid correction as the laws and the morals catch up.
I don't think that's true. And history suggests things tend to go the other way -- which is that societal norms and laws are what change to catch up to progress. However, we shall see.
As someone else mentioned, yhe rich getting richer thing is also part of it. A small band of billionaires and their tax avoiding companies keeping everyone else disenfranchised will drive the pendulum even more quickly away from what you consider progress. The cost of that progress is visibly too high.
I'm with you on the tax avoidance part, and think it's a shame that many tech companies play that game as well. Stupid of them, really. But the idea that the public is becoming more and more disenfranchised because of tax avoidance by big companies doesn't really pass the sniff test.
Right now I'm donating via both the Techdirt shop and Patreon. I don't know how much you're getting via the TechDirt shop aggregate but I'd hope it's more than you're getting currently with Patreon. It'd make sense to me if it is given how much later the Patreon donation option came after the TechDirt shop opened up.
Yes, the Techdirt shop definitely brings in more -- but it's still a pretty minimal amount overall (I'll put it this way: the money from such things basically pays for servers/bandwidth, but not anything else). To be honest, we've been shocked at how much direct commerce does. The deals shop and the t-shirts vastly outpace the insider shop/Patreon, and the ads (as of today). But all in, we're still a fraction of where we were a few years ago because of the ad market. Literally, ad rates are pushing less than 10% of what they once were. I'm not saying a 10% decline. I'm saying a 90% decline. Sales of stuff makes up a little bit of it, but we're still way, way down. It's... not great, but (unlike some), I recognize it's my responsibility to figure out ways to fix it. We're trying... and I sincerely appreciate yours and anyone else's support.
The disappointment that you feel is called coming back to earth. There is no magic digital utopia, the laws is starting to catch up with the world wide responsibility shifters, and there are dead unicorns all over the place.
Nah. History shows a very different story. Progress and innovation always win out. It's just a question of how long it will take. But, wow, it must be seriously depressing to be in your head, rooting against progress and innovation. I feel sorry for someone with such a dark soul.
2017 will likely be a tough year for so many reasons. The net and the world as a whole are splitting into factions, clans, and closed societies. It seems unlikely that the web will ever be as open as it was. Reality has taken it's toll on that dream.
Well shit. I tossed in a few extra $, but if I had to guess, is your $2K per month goal on Patreon, when combined with other sources of income for TechDirt, the amount you'd need to get back to your previous income level?
Every bit helps, so thank you for whatever support you give. No, we chose the $2k/month level just because we thought it's something that we might actually reach. Our ad revenue used to be significantly higher than that.
Nothing else in the story is specific to technology or a technology company.
Just jumping in here to point out that it is an interesting story and we have it on our list of things we'd like to cover, and hopefully we'll get to it. The reality, though, as I've said many, many times, is that we tend to cover about 25% of the stuff we'd like to cover, because we just don't have enough time/resources to cover every story.
This one is interesting, and maybe we'll get to it, maybe we won't, but contrary to the suggestion of the (notably) anonymous commenter, it has nothing to do with it being about Google. We cover plenty of negative stories about Google, as has been pointed out many times before. In fact we'll have one tomorrow morning, so stay tuned...
Re: Now Obama is spouting off about the election being hacked
1. Off topic. 2. That's not what he said. He's not talking about voting machines being hacked. He's talking about the hacks to get access to emails and other info from DNC, Podesta, others... 3. Stop playing red team/blue team.
Stop posting this kind of bullshit in our comments please.
In fact, the very idea of it smacks of stupid I usually do not see here at TD. Get your flipping act together! One side of your mouth talks as though you want to end government corruption and then this pro government corruption argument comes flying out the other side?
If a telecom that owns distribution has no chance of failing, what happened with go90?
Go90 was set up by 60 year old men trying to be cool to millenials in a space that was already highly competitive and which offered nothing new of interest. That was a space where there was real competition. Allowing for megamergers decreases competition.
And as far as algorithmicly driven news and it's impact , check out the election
Yes, we've discussed how that was completely overblown and how it was mostly confirmation bias.
I get too many pineapples have hit you on the head over the years. But it doesn't change the fact that the power is with apple Google and Facebook.
Yes, they have lots of power, but less than the telcos which have full access to everything. But you know that. Also, what's with the weird ad hom?
The first two can keep any telecom regardless of size out of the app store or hard to find.
Can you provide an example of them actually doing this to the telcos?
Also, how will that change if AT&T owns Time Warner?
Facebook can make or break a content provider
And how will that change if AT&T owns Time Warner?
And how much do fb apple and Google spend on content ?
Google these days spends quite a bit. But again, so what?
I get that you won't have much to talk about if you don't pick on telecoms , but that doesn't change reality
The apology was basically nothing. They kept the story up, because they wanted the traffic, and added a little tiny bit about "oh by the way, we're sorry".
Sure, but the legal issue here is important. If they hadn't retracted the story or put up the editor's note, they wouldn't have been liable. Do you at least see how crazy that is? They only got in trouble because of the apology?
They SHOULD be liable. And it SHOULD send a message. SEVERAL actually.
Again, that's easy for you to say, but the reality is that it's a lot trickier than that. It was bad reporting, absolutely. But the issue here is the apology alone.
One. Do REAL journalism, not this made up, activism "journalism". You know, where you have actual, verifiable FACTS. (Remember who, what, when, where and how?!)
There are serious First Amendment issues with your suggestion here that "activist journalism" isn't real journalism. That's very, very wrong.
Two. If you screw up, don't leave the story up to keep getting traffic or to be controversial. Take it DOWN. Write the apology and put it where the story USED TO BE.
Again, there are serious journalistic issues with doing that, because you are deleting the history of what happened, and that has its own problems.
They are getting what they deserve after that despicable excuse for journalism. And I hope it DOES have a chilling effect - a chilling effect on bad journalism.
Yeah, but because you're so angry about this article you don't seem to give two fucks about the real issue here and the impact it will have on good journalism.
I'd say the concept is awesome and the implementation has been dreadful. It needs a massive update.
And I don't see why it shouldn't be free. I know Carl Malamud has suggested that if they just raise the filing costs a little bit for corporations, it could recover more money and allow PACER to be free.