Not a useless discussion by any measure. Have you seen what law enforcement can do with prohibition? At all? They'd just as soon see countless lives destroyed for using "unauthorized" encryption as they have for using the pot.
Quite simply, law enforcement must not prevail and forcing speech out of Apple is only a very small portion as to why.
One day Like many gone by It will become Encrypt or die And this will hold true For you or I [sic, frig off, poetic licenseez] So smash it up And let if fly
I hate to keep beating a horse that simply will not die but the unholy alliances of media (including govs, if you like) have not, can not and never will "innovate". Hell, they can barely adapt and when they do adapt it's through crushing anything in their paths any way they can.
When the price of oil is high pirates have a go at it anywhere they can and when it's not pirates move on to more lucrative things.
Stop piracy - align your senses of entitlement with reality
Encryption is funny in the way that there is no soft, squishy middle part - apart from bad implementations.. which are more crumbly than squishy.
In other words, currently, there is no middle ground. There is no half-way. There is no ... "metric" that equates to "kind of" encrypted. Recognizing that is a pretty "key" part of any "discussion". Ignoring that is, well, ignorant.
Some of our corporate citizens can not seem to pay or provide for their own defenses or their business and customer data.
Critical information streams are fed onto the internet. Law enforcement and national defense have taken extreme liberties in their efforts to protect and to serve.
If the internet is so riddled with the means to bring on the imminent destruction of entire nations then we need to know. We need to know some specifics. The threat of the loss of a plane, a building, 10,000 men, women and children much less the risk of theft of money, identity or your loathsome grasp on art is not it. Militants claiming to comprise an ISIS is not it. Anonymous is not it. Global warming is not it. A fat hairy bastard in the basement diddling his way through NASA is not it.
Our government is all but completely trashing us. For what? Military contracts? Drugs? Pedophiles? What? .. The "law"? Chya, I think that ship sailed, Mr. Secret.
We need to know more and our government has been doing almost nothing but taking, on numerous fronts, for well over half a century. Look it up. It's time to give something back to the people if it is truly the people that they wish to serve. That may beg the question though, mightn't it?
No. We get corrupted Media, Mafiaa-assoes, forcible theft via monops & duops, health care, pills and the fucking po-lice. Meanwhile, I have two senators alll about intel co-ops and "OMFG we need some GD CYBERSECURITY up in here!" while articulating their ignorance with extreme dedication to their duties with smooth linguistic dexterity navigating the realms of politics, parties and re-election.
The "intel committees" in Congress? Tell me again why only a handful of people chosen to represent us all should know what's about to take us all out. Exactly. The entire intel outfit has become a joke and is becoming and extreme liability - and yet they remain free to keep on taking. Free of reigns, laws and oversight, proper oversight.
And if you're reading this and if offends you, your morals or your sense of duty (or inherent underlying vein of extreme greed) then fuck off. You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you? Bitch.
I think it's a natural right. Movement. Movement via any of the capabilities inherent to your era of existence and these limited only by an ability to pay (shoes, horses, autos or fares). Governments like very much to exert control over this natural right and they exercise it frequently.
Guilty before proven innocent, unfortunately, has come to us in all sorts of new shapes and sizes. Apparently it's now OK to curtail the natural rights of "suspects", among others. So much for what I thought law and order was supposed to mean. "All men are created equal" except for when my bird can take out your wedding party and.. "I do"
Tyranny starts with tyrants, be they governments, corporations, organizations, departments or your mom.
Don't look now but the characteristics of tyranny are appearing from all around and damn near global at that.
Tyrants most definitely do not like terrorists... cunt fucking rebels the lot.
I think it's about time to redefine security. Citizens do not need oversight, government does and at all levels.
And guns. Have so few taken notice of what coppers are doing to guys with knives, cigarettes, toy guns and dark complexions? Seen any drone demos lately? wtf. Checks, yes. Controls, not so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm game for firearm sanity but I'm definitely not up for a rigged game. Fistfulls of data on every Tom and Sally and little to no effective oversight for the Tom and Sally behind a badge or a fat ass security clearance.
And the next fucking time I see stats about, oh what's the word.. "mass shootings" in the context of gun control - you better give me some other fucking everyday death stats on butts, drunk drivers, terrorism, veteran suicides. Fuck. Journalism matters.
So why does everyone constantly try to fight the effects like they're the causes? Can I get some cause control up in this mother fucker, please?
First off, the intelligence services are so focused on what they cannot see that they are hurting both their cause and everyone else around them. "Having all the right tools" has become such a distraction that they are causing harm with the apparent inability to focus on information that they can see and DO (legally, real legal not secret legal) have and have had - time and time again. Every. Single. Law. that has been passed in an aim to better their access and toolsets since 911 is 91.1% bullshit and shows a distinct lack of foresight, focus and courage. The propaganda is sickening.
Secondly, these panic sessions, reactions and laws they bring about have a HUGE money stake sucking up our rights and the income we provide to our governments in the form of taxes that are supposed to help make our societies BETTER, all around. Somebody is sure as hell not suffering the cost of milk and bread.
Finally, terrorism is a crime. What does that mean, exactly? It means we're all scab scratching idiots believing we can heal ourselves faster if we draw blood, usurp rights and continuously strip away privacy. Our actions are direct causes of terrorist feeding frenzies.. not too hard to create and foster deadly temperaments when needless and senseless civilian casualties spring forth from the eyes in the sky.
ponders self-censorship yet AGAIN - mother fuckers
I'm not so sure. If it had people qualified (names, possible locations etc.) with instructions (from any source) to destroy, maim and kill then it is not a stretch to consider the circulation as a request for contract. Even though there's no money and it's not strictly putting the word out on the street for a hit request "do this and you will be paid by god" is influence enough for some (clearly). But that's crime.. the entire terrorism labels and usages are FUBAR - We're supposed to investigate crime and punish accordingly when guilty. This shit TERROR stance and tactic is, as we've all been observing, a pretty slippery slope into the exact type of government we're not supposed to enable.
I hope it'll stick. And without carrier sized loopholes. A government overrun with secrecy in dealing with its own citizens bears little resemblance to one of, for or by any people. If something is not directly relevant to the defensive posture that prevents total annihilation then it belongs on the table, for all to see, up to and including where, how and what for.
A police force is no place for secrecy when that secrecy enables unaccountable brute force manipulation of any law or any person. Rights are rights for a reason. Government secrecy is a privilege. hush hush for your intrusive toys has no place being hidden behind the iron blue throne of any LEO for any "investigation".
"tough" is an understatement. Even with the likes of Snowden, or another, standing will continue to elude. When one trillion inquiries is considered .. I don't know, barely relevant, the bar has been proven prohibitively high. National security *will* prevail, almost(crosses fingers) every, single time. And, I believe, only the mob can reign that in once it has tasted its own version of freedom. The Internet gave them a HUGE taste.. Like the entire pork chop, and shit.
.. The "protective perimeter" has developed itself a genuine god complex.