Re: Re: So many things wrong in the government's release...
Do you really think that those with a need to know actually typed out their own documents?
According to the document itself, only those with a need-to-know should know about it, so yes, they typed it up themselves or found a way to claim that their secretary (technically, "administrative assistant") needed to know so that the AA could type it up for them. Either way, Mr. Martin was not an AA to people who needed to know, so even that loophole cannot justify why he had access to a need-to-know document if he did not need to know.
so, people who cannot consider another's point of view slam police who are expected to not only consider their point of view, but be always gracious and talk them down. Enough, you're right if that's what you want. Have a good day.
Re: So many things wrong in the government's release...
>So, if the Defendant had no need to know about the operation, and the document is to be distributed ONLY ON AN ABSOLUTE NEED TO KNOW BASIS, then how did Defendant come to possess it?
Do you really think that those with a need to know actually typed out their own documents? Many a lowly secretary, who those in power consider to be a replaceable nobody, will have handled those documents.
Would it not be possible that the fifty terabytes just meant that he and his family had a few computers in his house, along with some jump drives, floppy disks (this goes back to the 90s, remember), other backup media? I mean, just an iPhone 7 can have 256 GB!
Most likely, they just took everything electronic in the residence, whether or not it had anything classified in it, and said he had 50 terabytes of potential classified information that they confiscated.
My grudge is not about what police work is like, rather what it isn't like, e.g. Law & Order, CSI, Without A Trace, even Hawaii Five-0 or Adam-12. Which is to say we on the civilian end cannot expect justice to be served. We cannot expect the police to book the right guy. We cannot expect to survive a police encounter with all our parts and belongings intact.
(That is to say I once considered a career in criminal investigation like all the other CSI-wannabe geeks until I learned enough to become dangerous.)
The notoriously corrupt GCPD in Gotham would be, compared to real-world precincts, a national exemplar of police honesty.
And yet, we, the public, are expected to regard the GCPD as so corrupt that only superheros could save it. Considering that the fictional Gotham is actually more honest than even provincial precincts, I'd say maybe it's time to disband the entire system and start again with the Bow Street Runners.
Heck, the FBI lies to the fucking US Senate with impunity, in blatant defiance of oversight. US law enforcement has proven itself time and again to be nothing but another street gang with no interest beyond its own prosperity.
Eventually we should start asking if it would be better to just hire the Sicilian Mafia to keep the peace, because I'd wager they'd do a less bad job for cheaper.
So call me an armchair general if you like, but I know well enough that our entire Department of Justice is not doing any of the job that it's supposed to do, except sustain an illusion that we live in a society of laws.
We live in a society of men, specifically, police officers, and we live free at their discretion.
It also requires accountability, something we used to have on this network a few decades back, but no longer do.
The people whose infrastructure is responsible for this have to be held personally accountable. Publicly named. Publicly shamed, Publicly fired. Publicly denounced. Publicly humiliated.
Because it's their fault. They've failed to meet minimum acceptable standards for Internet operations and they deserve to pay a steep price for it. Many of them should never work in this industry again.
Yes, that's harsh, but having a big chunk of the Internet taken out -- and the attackers could have done more and done it longer if they wishes -- is a pretty big deal. Harsh penalties are appropriate.
And maybe, just maybe, everyone else will pay attention and start doing the things that they should have done 10-20 years ago in order to defend the Internet, not merely defend themselves.
You have never heard of "Frontier" as in the company that just purchased Verizon's FIos while they were rated 270 out of 278 different customer service providing entities. What good is these government bodies created to help consumers from being ripped off when a company (with nearly the worst CS rating) that has some money can purchase Verizon's Fios service when Verizon was the internet providers leader in customer service. How the hell is that protecting the consumers. Yes, it's bad for Amazon but what about other small businesses that are totally revenue-dependent in their internet services staying up. There were companies in Florida with no internet service for a month and many more for weeks. Frontiers tech's didn't show up for appointments and when CS was contacted they just lied. One idiot called the consumer in the same landline he was there to repair to let them know he was there. They provided their cell phone numbers no less than 7 times for these brain-dead idiots. Mean-while they were chastising Warner Cable for over charging and throttling only to implement the exact same pricing structure except worse. WTH!
What if "Abe List" had made similar comments about someone other than Woods...perhaps a teen with depression...that eventually committed suicide as a result of being slandered in public...Would his actions have been okay then? Should the teen's family be entitled to legal recourse? Why is it that it is considered "hate" in only one direction? Sounds like Abe started this...I doubt Woods sought out some unknown person to start a fight with. Yeah...Woods was less than gracious about the outcome...twitter does that to people. ..... the real asshole? This "Anonymous Coward" 😄 is going with the guy that wrote the story, Mike Masnick
"This isn't getting nearly enough coverage as it should"
Probably because it isn't hitting everybody. If I wasn't reading about it on the news sites I'd never have known. Been online in CST since before 6am, have used many of the major sites mentioned (and of course AWS at the back of many) all morning with no indication of any problems. (I don't use FB but I have been using Amzn, TWTR, NYT, WAPO etc etc etc, major sites for work, and they've all been flying. Weird.) Literally except for reading about it I have not noticed anything. I feel left out.
Assuming for the sake of argument that he collected the information over a period of 20 years, rather than that he recently decided to take 20 years worth of information home in a short time period, 50TB over 20 years is still possible if the type of material he took changed over time. Perhaps he started out collecting mostly printed materials and plain text files, but switched to more complicated document formats and large image files as drives became bigger. We have seen a general pattern of bloat in the computer industry, and if the same pattern applied to the types of classified data held by the government, it could be the case that 2 years ago, he had well less than (18 / 20) * 50TB = 45TB of information.