This is so much fun. I talk to my friends and warn them about Information over load. The best way to hide something is to BURY IT, with BS. the Best way to confuse the opposition is to use Propaganda and confusion..
when both sides use it..its Raining BS..and sorting this out is HARD.. part OF THE PROBLEM IS THE corps AND OUR gov. ARNT BEING truthful WITH US..THEY ARENT TELLING US ANYTHING.. And they call this a democracy? HOW can a person CHOOSE if we cant get the WHOLE story..
"abandon a deal with the US that could create £100bn in new growth for Europe."
HOW do you make GROWTH? In an Import/EXPORT the only growth is for those HANDLING the goods. WHAT? they are going to send us WOOL? food? WHAT? For THEM to have growth, they would need to make JOBS..
"That's because it assumes massive deregulation of health and safety standards that will to be too much even for a European Parliament under pressure to accept the deal."
YEP, we get to send all our GMO foods and OVER processed goods to them. Thats NOT JOBS for them. thats not even JOBS for us..
"Europe's agreement with South Korea has seen our exports rise by 24% in its first two years."
WHAT can you sell in S. Korea? You sell to the RICH FOLKS.. The ONEs that have money. You MAKE investments..(a way to hide that you created a company for IMPORT/EXPORT and even some manufacturing, that GETS SENT BACK to the EU..) We do the same with CHINA..we send them WOOD, they send us products for IKEA.. And you REALLY have to wonder, if all the EXTRA transport of OVER PRICED WOOD, SHIPPING, LOADING handling is worth it? Think of all the JOBS we would have, if we DID THE WORK HERE..
"IPAs [investment protection agreements] protect job- creating investment from discrimination and unfair treatment." Understand this..IT PROTECTS INVESTORS...NOT YOU..
Something to see..Iv talked to truckers in the USA about this, and its Funny. CORPS make money by making it disappear, or seem like it. THEY MAKE MONEY by HANDLING the goods back and forth..Adding CHARGES.. A package of food, starts HERE, ALREADY packaged and ready..is SHIPPEd 3-4 states over, RE-PACKAGED with a BIG corp name, then shipped to distributors, then to stores..and costs $1 per pound EXTRA. Lumber from the East is SENT to the WEST, after going over the Canada Border, 1-2 times, to Incur CHARGES and raise prices.. 1 lumber yard was told to check with a local lumberman, and found he could get it DIRECT from him for 50% LESS..
NOW do you want to go into MARKUPS at the store? and HOW poor you really are?
Remember, CORPS know how much is in your pocket.. THEY PAID YOU. And they want it back..
aNOTHER POINT TO MAKE.. Is that TECh has made MATERIALS for recording CHEAP. It no long takes 10 miles of Plastic 35mm tape to record a movie.. iT dont TAKE A GREAT equipment to BURN A VYNL DISK..
mASS production is simple and EASY..
So WHy havnt the prices gone down?
In REALITY a DVD should be about $5-10.. AND with good tech you could DROP it to $1. But they dont want to DO IT...they would rather SOMEONE ELSE, spend the money and do it...NOT THEMSELVES. Ask, HULU and Itunes..THEN they can BLAME THEM, if it dont work.. (find HULU's contracts that keep changing Every month, or Itunes)
WHICH law? The one created recently, or the one CREATED when Disney created his movies.. HOW about WHEN they were created..BASEd on those laws..ALL movies before 1976 should be released.. FUNNY that laws from THEN, are retroactive with TODAYS LAWS?? I thought that was AGAINST THE LAW??
hERE IS ONE FOR YOU.. that all countries, must Quit subsidizing.. EXCEPT the USA.. And.. We already have good trade with most of these countries.. so, what do we get? not much. What do THEY GET?? WE subsidize selling them tools and hardware. which means WE PAY for it..
But, what is FREE TRADE?? this isnt free trade. the only persons making money, are the middle men..the Import/export of goods.. THINK about something stupid here.. HOW can the USA ship food to other nations AT the cost that YOU PAY for food? Unless there is a MONSTROUS markup to what WE are paying for food..THEY CANT. WHO pays for the Export of food to other nations from the USA..YOU DO. WHY do it? to undercut THEIR FARMERS.. and WE pay for it..
then showing INCREASES from 2009 numbers..to show increases..
AND how is it that the USA can EXPORT machinery..without SUBSIDIES?? to nations Poorer then the USA?
"estimated $223 billion per year, by 2025. Real income benefits to the United States are an estimated $77 billion per year. The TPP could generate an estimated $305 billion in additional world exports per year, by 2025, including an additional $123.5 billion in U.S. exports."
I aint no lawyer, but words like COULD, WOULD, MAY, and ESTIMATE...SCARE ME BADLY..
I dont see much on IMPORTS..and most of the idea of TRADE is getting equal value..and I dont see it. Are they going to Import FOOD? Watch that MARKUP.. they get it for pennies and sell it to us at DOLLARS, like they do our farmers..
I get a funny feeling the USA ends up PAYING the others money...for what? its not clear. but the CORPS dont want to pay it, and this agreement will PROBABLY end up costing the people the MONEY.
IF its what SOME of us think it is..we will send them SUBSIDIZED goods for there stuff(we paid for it) and they will end us STUFF and acknowledge CERTAIN RULES..
This is like the Trade agreement with canada.. A Pharma corp is SUEING CANADA, for making generic drugs. Which is funny, as the NATION isnt getting the money, its the business that making the drug, makes the money..
"on the topic of agricultural export subsidies, the author writes “All TPP countries except the U.S. commit to eliminate them”; likewise, with respect to financial services, he/she writes “United States shows zero flexibility."
Is this admitting that the USA will keep supporting Subsidies in the USA? Its been shown that the USA EXPORTS almost 80% of the food in this nation.. 1. we PAY for that in taxes.. 2. we pay for that in INFLATED prices on our food. as the USA loves forcing prices up(when not needed, when we send goods to other countries, to justify the subsidy) 3. when there are Major crop failure, ITS OUR prices that go up, even tho we could feed the USA..
It concerns me that it keeps saying the USA..when we already know that most of our representatives havnt SEEN any/most of the Documents. ANd the creators/backers are NOT the people of the USA.
I know a person that pretty well off.. And he has some good education and works in a building.. And HE thought he should get paid more money then the Janitor..
I asked him. that the Janitors clean every room in your building. And if you MISSED 1 day or 7..would the boss, others miss you?(or replace you) What would happen if the Janitors MISSED 1 day? by the THIRD day.. The BOSS would be looking for someone to CLEAN the toilet, dump the trash, mop the floors, Vacuum floors...... And I dont think much work would be happening until a few things got cleaned up..
AND if the BOSS asked you to do it..Even with your MIGHTY education..would you do it FREELY?? take a cut in pay to do it?? DEBATE a better wage then the JANITOR was getting? OR just CLEAN YOUR ROOMS?? FREE..