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I want to add that millage votes in Michigan are also how school districts and local governments receive additional funding above and beyond the general funds provided by the state or federal government for things like police and fire services and school operating expenses.
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Actually, I checked with a bunch of people around here. No one around here even knows the term "millage". And everything to support the library comes from the general fund.
A millage tax is a property tax that is voted upon by the public based on a millage rate (amount of tax per thousand currency units of property value). The common terms used around here are "millage vote" or "millage renewal vote" when these come up at election time.
It's the main way district libraries are funded in Michigan.
And really, do you want to get into the argument about the representative government making everything okay? If so, you've got to accept SOPA if it's passed.
You're right - I don't want to get into an argument about that. But, I will say that local millage vote is about a billion times more representative than out-of-touch congressperson trying to push a bill through that the majority of the public doesn't support.
Nonsense. If the publishers don't create what the public wants, the public doesn't have to pay anything. Nada. That's Bobland. The creators only get rewarded when they deliver something the people want to buy.
You missed my point. Copyright is a bargain between the public and creators. Creators get a government enforced monopoly for a limited time on their works. The public is supposed to benefit from those works after that limited time is up. Copyright has been extended well beyond it's original length and the only offset the public has had is libraries. Now the creators (or their trade groups) want to limit that even more.
When people like you wonder why there is so much infringement (ie: the public not living up to it's side of the deal) perhaps you should remember that your side isn't living up to the bargain either.
Re: The RIAA and the MPAA have nothing on the local municipalties
Have they seen how local municipalities treat people who don't pay the taxes that support the libraries?
I have no idea where you live, bob (nor do I care), but in my little corner of the world funding for libraries comes from millages which need to passed by the voting public to increase property taxes. Library millages rarely fail around here because the public wants the libraries.
Huh? Libraries have been around for hundreds of years. They're the ones who trying to defend an old business model with laws and tax collectors.
Apparently, in Bobland, the deal struck between the public and the creators is one where the creators get everything under the sun for ever and ever (+ 1 day) and the public gets less than nothing (and should be happy for getting that).
Amusing, but ultimately not relevant to SOPA. This is a domestic site, so it would not be subject to SOPA's influence.
For the sake of argument, let's say that some foreign website does have that exact image available for illegal download and someone uses SOPA to go after them. With Smith having it on his site also, wouldn't that go against the anti-circumvention provisions which are not limited only to foreign sites?
I don't believe the tag "censorship" applies if it is not enabled by the government.
It's unfortunate you don't believe that, but in order to have a rational discussion about this, one pretty much has use the universally accepted definition of words.
You believing that "censorship" only equates to "censorship by the government" doesn't really change the definitions of the words themselves. Censorship by a corporation or an individual is still censorship, it just doesn't go against the Constitution.
You do realize that talk of overthrowing the government is still illegal and considered treason, right?
My take from the decision on Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969) is that such speech is protected by the Constitution unless it is "...directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or cause such action"
Advocating the overthrow of the government in general is protected speech, but, when you start getting into specifics of such an action, not so much.
The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement estimate 15% of seized counterfeit goods pose a direct risk to public safety.
These items include counterfeit cigarettes, manufacturing goods, pharmaceuticals, and medical equipment. In many cases, Consumer Product Safety Commission has had to issue warnings for counterfeit batteries, circuit breakers, and semiconductors as a result.
I wonder what percentage of American made (or imported legally by an American company) products are substandard and have to have warnings issued and how it compares to that 15% figure.
And on a side note: WTF is a counterfeit cigarette? If it's tobacco wrapped in a rolling paper than it's a cigarette. Period. I wouldn't think cigarettes have to pass FDA inspection or whatever since they are inherently unhealthy to begin with. Are they talking about "medical" cigarettes or something?
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If GenX has already taken over, nobody mentioned it to me.
I wish I knew which generation I was.
I missed the tail end of the boomers by a year or two and I'm too old to be in the GenX group. Raised on peace, love and flowers and then corrupted by the "Me, me, me" and greed mantras of the 80's. The social acceptance of casual drug use gave way to "Just say no" around the time I graduated high school. "Make love, not war" morphed into the "carry a big stick" foreign policy of the Reagan era.
Maybe we should be labeled "The Confused Generation" with all the mixed signals we received.