Upon close reading on the article, I am afraid I am siding with silverscarcat on this one too.
Look, we all hate what NSA/US gov. has done here, but don't let emotion override your good sense. Not the entire world is against snowden.
On the title my first instinct is also like "they are blaming the messenger".
however, if you read the content, it's quite an accurate description of the article. It's NOT saying snowden is causing the damage, but this revelation is causing the damage, and that is true.
For example, if person A shot person B and person C reported this incident causing a police gang crackdown, the title "The shooting reported by person A makes local police start a gang crackdown" is not taking aim at person C, but is describing the "reporting"
This is not killing the golden goose. It's more like milking the cow for all it's worth. If industry has its way, they want 99% profit of all the internet services' profit and leave the streaming company in a half-dead status, just enough profit to not make them give up on this streaming business.
After all, all those service did was "put our stuff online", so the industry deserve all the profit.
i am not against journalists outting the dirty laundry of politicians who deserve it. in this case i also agree that this is newsworthy.
however, i am concerned about how a blog/forum/website would outst an anonymous commenter in general.
so today you outst a anonymous commenter because you determine it's newsworthy. what if tomorrow you decide some anonymous commenter that's causing you some inconvinience is newsworthy? how about if you are flat out just don't like some commentator?
it's difficult to decide if this really is a clear win in the long run
I've been wondering... Does digitization of work give you a claim on copyright?
Cause that seems to be the case for many museums and public entities. They take something in the public domain, digitize it, and then claim copyright for them, or at least the digital version of them. I guess the mentality is that they put the work to digitize it so they have a stake in it and should profit from it.
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And you are naively enough to believe that what judges decides are purely on what law and legal precedent is.
In fact, your own statement just proved that because you said "...because they relied more on their personal views than the law to reach their decisions"
So, how is the overrule not a reflection of the personal view of the higher court judge "relied more on the personal views than law"? ======================
Oh, and please don't try to suggest that I am trying to be "above the law"
I am so sick of you people who doesn't do the work trying to tell me how "that's the rule of law and precedent".
I am telling you, and open your freakin' ears, that WHAT THEY DECIDED MAKES PEOPLE WHO DO THEIR WORK MUCH HARDER, FOR REASONS THAT DOESN'T HAVE GOOD RETURN ON THE ADDITIONAL WORK. And it's not just me, a bunch of people who actually do this work agrees.
If this decision actually have benefits, I don't think people would be this outraged. BUT IT DOESN'T. It just requires more effort for no return. How hard is that to understand?
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I really, really, REALLY hate to bring this in the discussion.
But if judges are only in the role of applying the law, how are they different than the nazi soldiers who says they are just following orders?
See? I told you I really don't want to bring that argument in.
I am not complaining about the roles or naccesity of law, judges or government. I am just saying that you really shouldn't be making a decision, or "judge", when you do not understand what you are judging about.
And in this case, it's obviouse that the judges have no clear understanding on the issue at hand because everyone who understands how this works just had a collective facepalm so loud that you can hear it on Neptune.
Now about a judge's impartiality... That's a whole different can of worms...
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I agree that I do not understand copyright law. I only do what I know how to do, which is to write applications for people.
However, fundamentally, what is law? Well, law, as I understand it of course, is created so people could agree to work together in a state of conflict, or to define a certain framework so everyone could work together for progress.
So in the very essence of law, as I understand it, is to promote progress.
What just happened with Oracle, Google and the court, from a non-lawyer, actual worker of the field's eye is to hinder progress, GREATLY hindering progress.
It's a scenario in which, for example, a farmer in the field busily harvesting crop just heard some manager/boss/government/court/lawyer decided that, in order to satisfy the law, now you have to harvest while wearing a 20kg shackle, while carrying a crying baby.
This is why people has such disdain for lawyers. Make no mistake, I believe lawyers does have its place in society (my brother is a lawyer working for one of the top 3 wall street firms) But every once in a while, some really wanky things gets decided that's so out of tune with reality by a group of people who had zero "real life" experience on what they are deciding on.
And often that decision is final.
How could we not get pissed off by lawyers and governments and courts in those cases? How could not to lose respect for people like these? How could we not starting to lose trust in governing?
Looping around, it always come back to how "The law is not working and not based in reality" and "Judges unable to admit that perhaps they are not the know-it-all they think they are"
As soon as I saw you comment that "actual letter and numbers" are copied and that THAT is written expression, I am certain that you are not really a programmer.
Look, spending years researching doesn't make you possess actual knowledge of things you research. That's like saying I have spent my last 10 years researching extensively on how a house is built, and knows every in and out of building a house, but have never built one, makes me an expert and you should trust me to build your next house from scatch.
I don't want to talk about "definitions" and "dictionaries" and "meanings" with you. That's all just words and they can be twisted. I am just going to show you.
Why should basic names and "letters and numbers" not copyrightable.
Let say you are writing a library management software. To makes things clear, you use a variable called "book" which can be grouped in a variable called "books".
In order to do some work on it, you define a function and call it SortBooks() and pass in the books to be sorted.
Another person some along to write a different library management software, he also decides to use variable named "book" and "books" and a function called SortBooks(). WHY? because it makes sense.
Now, we claim that is copyrightable, so 2nd person can no longer do that. What's he going to do? Name it "fish", "fishes", and "SortFish()"?
Now let says a company decided to make this type of software easier to create, so it created a group of functions all related to sorting books in various ways for everyone to use. In their group of functions, they also have an function to do the sorting, so they list in their interface something call "SortBooks()", which makes logical sense to call it that. If that's copyrightable, what could a second company call that function that does the same thing, "SortBuffalo()"?
That list of definitions listing out functions which is provided in that group of functions is call "API".
People get so caught up in "definitions" that actual meanings are all but lost.
1. It's a locked mailbox, not a mail slot on my door. You need a post office master key to open the boxes to deliver these junk mails, eliminating possibilities that others drop those in
2. It's "un-addressed mail", for example, a flier for a local car dealer having a sale and sending out a flyer. The post office doesn't have to deliver it to me because it does NOT have my name, nor address on it. They received, for example, 10,000 sheets and is just putting them on ANYONE and EVERYONE's box.
3. The "Post Person" is not dealing with it. They just collect everything and dump into a bag to have the machines sorted. It's the post office that has to deal with it.
In my neighbourhood, we have centralized mailboxes (so they don't have to deliver door to door and save some man hours). Some people don't like it, but I like it because the mail slot is right next to the mailbox.
If I pick up my mails and found there are junk mails which does not have my address on it, I slip them right into the mail slot.
After a few month of doing that, one day I found a sticker on the mail slot which says, "Please take the fliers home to recycle instead of using the mailbox." In which I added a sticker of my own, "I'll stop using the mailbox when you stop sending me unwanted junk mail."
What I want to know is, how likely is an American court/judge to admit they made a terrible mistake? Usually judges/courts are viewed with high regards and that makes them hard to admit their own fault.
Some of you may know that Canada Revenue Agency (basically Canadian IRS) has shut down all online submission and query for filing tax return for 2014.
What you may not know is that during an interview today, the spokesperson, with a bit of hesitation, said that they "had to shut down because they cannot be sure if any illegal organization (slight pause) and intelligence agency are able to get to the private information of Canadian citizens..."
I am just unsure whether to laugh or cry when I hear that sentence.
No he's not a loner, this is just how these career politicians able to formulate their actions and put on auto pilot on pretty much everything.
We must admit that even Senators are human and it's impossible to know everything. However, they must keep up the fašade of having an opinion on everything.
Therefore, to safely pilot through unknown waters, here is what you do.
0. pretend to be listening 1. Ask a questions that so generic that "The sky is blue" would be a valid answer 2. reverse the answer as a question back to the witness 3. now depend on the gut feeling, air temperture, weather, and what you have for lunch, you could either a) show some outrage on something b) congratulate on something that a committee has done (doesn't have to remember the name, since there is always at least one committee of some sort) 4. pretend to listen some more 5. rinse and repeat 3 and 4 6. running out of time, again show your disbelief at something, then get a bit angry at something, then congratulate on how good/worse a job Obama is doing depends on your political alignment 7. adjourn
Now where is that patent form I needed to apply for "A process for uninformed person to simulate expertise of questions about life, universe, and everything"
I feel they have wasted their blood. No one cares.
Let me quickly summarize a few notable key points. 1) the trade agreement is passed within 30 seconds. Why did it pass? Because ruling and opposition party couldn't agree, thus it DEFAULTED TO PASSED. laughable, isn't it? 2) there are 0 impact studies. yes, 0. There are more than 20 public hearing and no one from the government was able to product an impact study. when questioned on the earlier public hearing, the answer is there are no impact studies and there are no ongoing impact studies. perhaps we could have a impact study after signing 3) the ruling party treat this as needing to be urgently passed. This whole deal come to the signing stage in mere 9 month. look at other free trade agreement and how much time it takes (hint: years) and compare that to the 9 month for this one 4) Students has took over the parlimentary building for more than 10 days now. Imagine what kind of effect if a group of student took over the congress building 5) a few days later they took over the executive branch, where the above link shows what happened when the police cleared out the students 6) the president of Taiwan continues his daily press release, schedule, etc, acting like nothing happened. He's certainly laughing merrily. 7) Taiwan public has gathered 6,000,000 million Taiwan dollars in 3 hours in a kickstarter like site. For what? To buy ad on New York Times international version. Why? Cause none of the western media cared. Very little people know what's going on. 8) It's great that the presidents says he's going to initialize itemized review. But did they report that if one of the item did not pass, the agreement would be terminated before signing? And that China threatens if this does not pass, there will be no talks for at least the next 10 years, maybe never? 9) despite all these protest, the students and supporters are not violent at all. All the conflicts are initiated by the police and the crowds even claps for the police as they switch shifts, to quote "Because we know after the police is out of their uniform, they are Taiwanese too."
Now you can see why I am slightly offended by AC and all those "funny" vote. I don't expect everyone have to show perfect respect but at least a basic understanding of what's going on would make me grateful.
And lastly, I want to say that very little know and cared. Not many news agency carries these news and just scratches the surface. American doesn't care, Europe doesn't care, no body cares because Taiwan is such a small place next to the China that everyone is trying to please. This again affirmed my belief that no nation is fighting for "freedom and democracy for all nations". Every nations is just fighting for their greatest benefits and pleasure.