And you are wrong for using your values to judge another culture with different values."
It would be nice, before poisoning the comments with this kind of stupidity, if you would just learn your history. The outcome of the French Revolution, to which I linked, and to which the very "American value" you refer, are undeniably linked to the Declaration of Rights that France produced. That declaration said, among other things, that some rights are universal and not national, including...wait for it...free and open speech.
"I think you have it backwards. The viewpoint is considered extreme solely based on the number of followers; how else would you say it is extreme? Besides, the masses are the ones who get to declare a viewpoint extreme."
This is demonstrably incorrect. What you're talking about is what is "popular" or "populist", not what is "extreme." To demonstrate:
Let's take 100 people and put them in a room and tell them that a person on the other side of a glass window has been caught jay-walking. The group can choose from a spectrum of reactions to this, from doing absolutely nothing to the man and letting him go on one end of the spectrum and to putting the man to death by stuffing his testicles into his air passages on the other end. Now, let's say 90 people decide to kill the man by airpath testicle blockage. According to you, that reaction wouldn't be extreme. That's extremely silly.
"Your basis for extreme revolves around some notion of right and wrong and morals and such. These only exist based on the beliefs of society as a whole. There is no such thing as an absolute right or moral."
You're conflating 2 things: the existence of morality and the existence of ABSOLUTE morality. They're not the same thing. There is a legitimate, non-societal basis for morality: that which causes general happiness and well-being for the individual and the group is moral, that which does the opposite is immoral. It's vague to allow wiggle room for society to exist, but it's logical, scientific, and it WORKS.
And it thinks religious extremists, no matter their number, are fucking assholes.
Not sure how it works where you live, but I currently do not get blacked out of streaming my local NFL games on either Foxsports.com, ESPN3.com, or NBCsports.com. Not sure about CBS, but I'd be surprised if one single carrier blacked out local games while everyone else allowed them....
"On the serious side, Sneeje had a good idea. It would be cool to see 2 Techdirt writers with different points of view on the same material, in the same story. Especially something controversial. Just a thought."
I am wholeheartedly in favor of this. Tim vs. Timothy. Winner takes all....the internetz....
"we are people whose corporate IT departments still love Internet Explorer because all the internal web-based corporate applications were designed 10 years ago to work on IE and nobody wants to devote the resources needed to confirm whether they work on any other platform, or to update them if they don't."
Ugh, I can certainly sympathize w/this. I use Chrome 90% of the time, but then I have to do some module task in Autotask or Quotewerks or some other LoB app and find that it's only stable in IE because the world doesn't make any sense and is a horrible place....
"Hey guys, can someone move over and let the Helmet get some air? I don't think he can breath under all these bodies."
Appreciated, but I don't mind in any way the community's response to this post. I actually LOVE it when the community shows their independence this way, rather than treating this site as an echo chamber. As others have mentioned, the community's ability to think on their own is something to laud, not to fight against.
That said, I've never found consensus particularly interesting either. I'd rather be correct than be agreed with....
Perhaps this is on me for not presenting the argument clearly, but please read this again:
"I mean, look, it sounds like Lars is doing everyone a favor here, but this is all equal parts insulting and business-dumb. I'd wager that most gamers that are diving into Steam's Early Access beta games probably have a firm understanding that these games are unfinished and quite possibly buggy. That was certainly the case when I got in early on Starbound, for instance. But that didn't stop me from gifting the game to my brother, because I'm a thinking human person who can determine for whom gifting the game would be appropriate. I certainly didn't need the game developer to tell me to simply not buy the game for anyone for Christmas."
The point isn't that this guy is dumb or wrong for being honest about the state of the game. The point is that there is no need to be insulting to fans by pretending like they are unable to determine for themselves for whom the game would be an appropriate gift. When I hear someone say, "Don't buy my product as a gift.", all I think is "Well fuck you very much, maybe I just won't buy it at all."
If you can't see the problem with the hardline approach, well....*Shrugs*