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The truth is, we have absolutely no idea what the fuck would happen. The were getting different results in countries right next to each other.
We have some idea of what would happen. We just have to look at our own history. We've been through this once already and our society didn't crumble to the ground in 1933 when we repealed Prohibition. Here is a former Seattle Police Chief pointing out the parallels between Probation and our current "drug war":
Throwing that switch would be a disaster right now here the U.S.
I disagree that it would be the disaster you predict. We certainly aren't anymore culturally mature than we were in 1933 and we worked that out OK. Would there be growing pains? Sure. Would it take time to readjust our justice, law enforcement and health care systems. Absolutely. I just don't think sitting on our hands until you think we can handle it as a society is any kind of answer. I believe the status quo is worse than any of effects of legalization would be.
The idea of vaccinations has been around for a thousand years, dating as far back as AD 1000 in India . The smallpox vaccine was introduced around the late 1700's, the polio vaccine was licensed in 1955 and the MMR vaccine has been administrated in the US since the early 1960's.
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Just to clarify, I advocate the legalization of small amounts for personal use. That "magic switch" is feasible and plausible.
Manufacturing and distribution should be regulated and taxed, like alcohol. The funding of our police forces should come from some of these taxes, instead of having "drug asset forfeitures" as a major source of their operating budgets. We should also let our judges do their jobs and evaluate situations on a case-by-case basis, instead if being forced to use mandatory sentencing requirements which basically treat a 17 year old kid smoking a joint in the park the same as the guy caught selling crack on the corner.
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I disagree. I don't think were ready. We would first need to completely overhaul our police forces, treatment and abuse systems, education systems.. and a vast host of other things.
I think your logic concerning this is incorrect. It's like telling someone not to have a child until they can afford one, which is basically saying "don't have children" (because you can never really afford them). Also, who gets to decide when we've become "culturally mature". You? Me? Space Aliens? Who?
I suggest YOU read it more carefully. Simply pointing out that other nearby countries increase as well does not mean shit, and can be interpreted many different ways. The actual study suggest that in numerous places. It suggests that their may be a correlation between the two, but it doesn't prove anything.
It's a pretty accepted practice to compare results with control groups. That doesn't, by any means, equal a direct correlation, but it does give some pretty strong indications that Portugal's policy changes were not the reason for the increase.
Look, it been nice chatting with you and all and it's obvious that you have your opinions about this, but you might want to ask yourself why many respected people are currently question our drug policies, from Eric Holder to some well respected Harvard alumni and beyond. It's been my personal observation that those arguing most stridently against legalization are those whose livelihoods depend on the "War on Drugs" remaining well funded.
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It's illegal nasch. As in against the law. Yes, we should enforce the law until we reach a point where we can responsibly change it.
I think we have already reached that point - about 20 years ago as a matter of fact. I realize that's currently illegal and what I am advocating for is legalization of small amounts right now.
If it's so "tiny", why make a big deal out of it being illegal?
Cause and effect. 30 years of the "War on Drugs" has done nothing to curb usage. It has however caused the over-militarization of our police forces, police tactics of targeting our minorities and the largest incarceration rate of any developed country. A lot of the friction between police forces and citizens that we are experiencing today are a direct result of our drug policies.
It has an after legalization drug use comparison of Portugal. Yes. Drug use went up significantly, including the hard drugs. I'm not making this up, the data is right there.
Yeah, you probably need to re-read that link a bit more carfully:
The increase in drug use observed among adults in Portugal was not greater than that seen in nearby countries that did not change their drug laws.
I was saying that just throwing some magic switch that suddenly legalizes drugs across the board would be irresponsible and damaging to our way of life.
I disagree 100% with this sentiment. You should probably educate yourself a bit more on this subject before making such blanket statements.
They don't need to get permission from the musicians so long as either the campaign or the venue have ASCAP or BMI blanket licenses, which they almost always do.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but I thought the ASCAP or BMI licenses covered music being played at the specific venue only and that a completely different license must be negotiated for the rights to play the song on a TV broadcast.
Now I realize that there wasn't a "RNC Convention" show per se, but I would assume that the RNC provided some of the video feeds, especially during the speeches, to eliminate the need for multiple cameras everywhere. So wouldn't the RNC be considered a producer of the video and therefore without the a fair use defense, like the news organizations reporting on the event would have?
Nice cherry pick. I already conceded that pot was not under discussion for the reasons I stated. I was talking about "hard" drugs.
Fair enough. I still think that the "danger to society" thing has been and still is oversold as hokum. The criminalization of drug use has caused more societal problems then the original problem they were trying to "fix".
Take a look at the results of Portugal legalizing small amounts of both "soft" and "hard" drugs. While usage remained pretty much the same, other societal side effects of drug use have improved. HIV diagnoses went down, entries into treatment facilities went up, drug related deaths dropped, adolescent use went down, criminal justice workloads went down and actual the street value of the drugs dropped.
It appears to me, that the original reason we made drugs illegal was the irresponsible use was seen as a danger to society as a whole.
That is a very nice rose-colored view there, but unfortunately incorrect. The campaign to make marijuana illegal was funded and driven by William Randolph Hearst who owned huge tracts of forestland and didn't want to compete with hemp in paper manufacturing and Andrew Mellon (a heavy investor of Du Pont) and the Du Pont family who wanted to replace hemp with nylon for ropes and such.
...those whose lives are destroyed by others without having been physically hit or touched.
My generation was raised with the axiom "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me". We were also taught that your own feelings were your own responsibility and no one could make you feel something with words unless you allowed it.
I think there are a lot of "fragile snowflakes" out there nowadays who need to pull up their big-boy pants and grow a backbone. Just my 2 cents.
Yes, I use a very broad definition of violence and as far as I am concerned, it is well justified.
Not really. Stretching definitions of words to suit your agenda only makes you look ignorant. Intelligent people converse using common, accepted definitions of words so others can actually figure out what the fuck you are talking about.
One theory for Jews being so prevalent in the moneylending and "middle-man" (traders, brokers, etc.) occupations throughout history is the fact that every Jewish man was (and is) required to read from the Torah at their Bar Mitzvah (usually age 13). This dates back before Christianity began. As a group, Jews were simply more educated than anyone else throughout most of our history.
Calling out companies that ridiculously censor speech on their own platforms is not the same thing as saying those companies shouldn't have the right to control what is published on their platforms. You are missing the nuances here.
I notice that the clear subtext to these "tech industry leaders" is that a Trump presidency might obstruct the flow of cheap H1B labor from overseas.
Your definition of "cheap H1B labor from overseas" is a bit skewed. The median salary for H-1B workers in the top five tech companies is well over 100k/year. I wouldn't classify that as "cheap labor" in any industry.
Well, does Facebook qualify more as "small owner-operated company, in which the owners are necessarily closely connected to the speech" or "large organization"?
I would definitely consider Facebook "large organization", but that wasn't the only criteria that decided Turner v FCC. Also note that Volokh qualifies his statement with "might be required to".
AFAIK only a couple cases have forced private companies to disseminate messages that they might disagree with, that being cable companies and universities. In both of those the court determined they had some degree of "monopolistic opportunity to shut out some speakers". I don't believe that Facebook has reached that bar when it comes to disseminating speech on the internet.
I guess the examples I used above are not quite right.
Federal law does not prevent businesses from refusing service to customers based on sexual orientation. Neither does the state, county or municipality where my business is located. So I could actually refuse to serve someone based on their sexual preference, if I wanted to.
A better example:
I can refuse to print a "Black Lives Matter" sign because I disagree with the message. On the other hand, I cannot refuse to print a "No Parking" sign for someone just because they are black.
(Once again, I wouldn't actually refuse either of these customers)
Having multiple bakeries in one town doesn't let one private bakery off the hook when it comes to protected classes.
Don't confuse refusing service to someone with refusing to disseminate a message you disagree with.
As a purveyor of fine signage, I can refuse to print a "Gay Pride" sign because I disagree with the message. On the other hand, I cannot refuse to print a "No Parking" sign for someone just because they are homosexual.
(Just so you know, the above are just examples and I wouldn't actually refuse either because I personally don't give two shits about what other people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.)