New HTC Phones Stopped At Customs Due To Apple Patent Fight

from the why-we-can't-have-cool-things dept

In one of many Apple patent fights concerning smartphones, it went after Taiwanese smartphone maker HTC in both the courts and using the infamous ITC loophole that gives the company two separate cracks and blocking competition using the same patents. The ITC ruled in Apple's favor late last year, issuing its customary injunction (the ITC can only issue injunctions blocking import, rather than any monetary award). HTC was given time to create a fix, but the injunction has apparently gone into effect, and it means that the newest HTC phones -- eagerly awaited by some -- are being held at the border by customs to make sure that allowing them into the country won't violate the ITC injunction. It's pretty sad that Apple doesn't appear to think that it can actually compete on the merits in the marketplace, but rather has to resort to this sort of protectionism. Similar to Apple's complaints against Samsung, I have to admit that all this has really done is increase my interest in both the HTC One X and the HTC Evo LTE. If a smartphone is so good that even Apple is scared to compete against it, well, that seems like a phone that might be worth having...


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    The Arbiter (profile), May 16th, 2012 @ 8:06pm

    This is why I hate Apple

    I have endured whining for years from Microsoft haters. I don't recall though MS stopping stuff at the border. This is pretty lame.

    Apple needs to curl and iDie

     

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    Shane C (profile), May 16th, 2012 @ 8:31pm

    Well Siri sorta agrees

    Siri, Apple's newest twist on artificial intelligence did start directing people who asked "what is the best smartphone ever" to the Nokia Lumia 900 over the weekend. So, apparently even Siri knows that Apple can't compete any more!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18071342

     

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    Tim K (profile), May 16th, 2012 @ 8:44pm

    Also I believe it's pretty clear that this is solely to block competition as they did not attempt to block the HTC One S, the smaller member of the One family, but with the same software, that is being sold on T-Mobile who doesn't have an iPhone, but only on the two (though almost identical) phones that are supposed to be the most powerful phones on the market atm who are on Sprint and AT&T who both carry the iPhone. I pre-ordered the phone and was looking forward to getting it tomorrow, and this has not stopped me from wanting it, but rather made me want anything apple even less

     

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    Dave Xanatos, May 16th, 2012 @ 10:42pm

    Ok Apple Fanboys....

    Let's play a game. You can reply with something that Apple says they invented, and me or someone else will reply with someone who did it earlier. This could be fun (For some definitions of fun.)

     

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    The eejit (profile), May 16th, 2012 @ 11:50pm

    Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    The Mackintosh.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 16th, 2012 @ 11:57pm

    Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    The Mackintosh or Macintosh (abbreviated as mac or mack) is a form of waterproof raincoat, first sold in 1824,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackintosh

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 1:28am

    Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    Apple PC, Apple II, Mac, iMac or else?

    Well, don't say product names (Apple will clearly sue if others use the same name). Say what specific feature instead.

     

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    megrez, May 17th, 2012 @ 1:34am

    Re: Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    reasonably priced home computers


    ..oh wait

     

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    Mr Big Content, May 17th, 2012 @ 1:54am

    See How Patents Promote Innovation

    Holding back these HTC phones in Customs is a proven technique for encouraging free-market competition. By blocking HTC products from being forced down customers' throats, they are given the choice of buying non-HTC alternatives, like Apple. This is good for consumers, because it will at least make them think about the alternatives before buying HTC. Imagine if everybody simply had to buy HTC--you couldn't call that free-market competition, could you? The choice between Apple and Microsoft make for a much more competitive market than any others.

    I only wish HTC products could be completely banned from our market. We need more competitors offering worthwhile alternatives. And also get rid of Samsung, while we're at it.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 2:38am

    Apple - killing innovation through killing competition for many years. Avoid them like the plague. I don't and will never have an Itunes account.

     

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    Sarah Black (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 2:49am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    Both home computers released in 1977, Tandy's TRS-80 at $600 was less than the Apple II price of $1300.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 2:50am

    Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    Granny smith did it first

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 3:53am

    Apple: Brought Unix into the home on computers that appealed to a larger audience than just geeks.

     

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    John Doe, May 17th, 2012 @ 4:42am

    I have sworn off Apple

    I can assure you, I will never own an Apple product. I hope to never own another Microsoft product either, but they are going to be much harder to get away from. I am tired of paying the trolls. Either compete in the marketplace or go away, these lawsuits are ridiculous.

     

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    John Doe, May 17th, 2012 @ 4:42am

    Re: This is why I hate Apple

    MS just sues or threatens to sue all the Android handset makers and bluff them into licensing.

     

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    Ninja (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 4:49am

    I'll leave a prediction here: in a few years, I'd say 5-10 years from now, Apple will be as valuable as it was before Jobs re-joined the ranks.

     

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    abc gum, May 17th, 2012 @ 5:32am

    Is this related to that patent for a phone which is rectangular shaped?

     

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    Jeremy Lyman (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 5:42am

    Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    A pseudo religion based on white earbuds and false sense of individuality.

     

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    Tim K (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 5:49am

    Re:

    This is for the pantent of clicking on a phone number in a browser and having it bring it up in the dialer

     

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    Jeremy Lyman (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 5:58am

    Re: Re:

    Or more specifically, the way it LOOKS when you tap a number to call someone. The patent is on the design, not the functionality.

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399876,00.asp

    I find this exceptionally stupid because customs is blocking the importation of physical goods to keep software out of the country. It's like ICE searching laptops for digital contraband at the border. How long do you think it will take for someone to download the infringing interface from the internet?

     

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    Cerberus (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:00am

    Why people buy Apple products

    Funny conversation I had today with this kid I tutor.

    I: "Is that an Iphone you have?"
    He: "Yes."
    I: "Why did you buy an Iphone?"
    He: "Wel, I...eh...actually, I don't know. I just bought it."

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 6:13am

    According to "the verge" found via Phandroid.com

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/16/3024889/htc-one-x-evo-4g-lte-custom-android-build -apple-patent-linkify

    HTC modified the code to work around this ridiculous patent.

    By "work around" they mean that they eliminated the menu of choices and instead take you to the default program (dialer for phone #s, maps for addresses, browser for URL's, etc). The defaults can be changed by the user, but its not perfect as there are many cases where you don't want to use the default... such as if you run multiple browsers.

     

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    TimK (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:14am

    According to "the verge" found via Phandroid.com

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/16/3024889/htc-one-x-evo-4g-lte-custom-android-build -apple-patent-linkify

    HTC modified the code to work around this ridiculous patent.

    By "work around" they mean that they eliminated the menu of choices and instead take you to the default program (dialer for phone #s, maps for addresses, browser for URL's, etc). The defaults can be changed by the user, but its not perfect as there are many cases where you don't want to use the default... such as if you run multiple browsers.

     

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    TimK (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:14am

    Re:

    Can a MOD delete this? I posted it anonymously by accident.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 6:18am

    What a bunch of mother fucking cheaters.

     

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    DannyB (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:20am

    Bastardization of a famous quote

    All that is necessary for Apple to succeed is for Google men to do nothing.

     

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    DannyB (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:21am

    Re: Bastardization of a famous quote

    Err. . . .

    All that is necessary for Apple to triumph is for Google men to do nothing.

     

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    The eejit (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 6:23am

    Re: Re: Bastardization of a famous quote

    All that is necessary for patents to win is for copyrights to do nothing.

     

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    I-Bz, May 17th, 2012 @ 6:42am

    Re: Re: Re: Bastardization of a famous quote

    To contine the trend, The Fail is strong with these ones.

     

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    Dave Xanatos, May 17th, 2012 @ 7:20am

    Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    Damn. You beat me.

     

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    Dave Xanatos, May 17th, 2012 @ 7:24am

    Re: Re:

    Deleted. Now no one but you will be able to read it.

     

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    G Thompson (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 7:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok Apple Fanboys....

    And the Coco (or Trash80 as we used to say as well) was a LOT better, especially when it came to peripherals.

     

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    G Thompson (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 7:42am

    Re:

    Bwahahahahahahahaahahaha

    Wrong! they brought a version of NeXt that was cut down, and totally closed off that did not allow anyone (programmers included) to do anything that Unix should be able to do. Root was NOT allowed!

     

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    G Thompson (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 7:44am

    Re: Why people buy Apple products

    Smart kid.

     

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    G Thompson (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 8:05am

    Re:

    On a professional level this link here is why I absolutely love iPhones over Android/Win Phones any day. (the password breaker is amazingly good)

    "Off-the-shelf forensics tool slurps iPhone data via iCloud"

    On a personal level, the above link is why I tell all my friends and family to avoid iPhones like the plague!

     

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    Mike42 (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 8:45am

    Re: Re: This is why I hate Apple

    Better than blocking imports completely with a BS patent.
    I perfer negotiation to litigation, even if they're both garbage.
    Sadly, it's choosing the lesser evil.

     

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    gigglehurtz (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 9:59am

    Re: Why people buy Apple products

    Wow! Bad news for Apple.

     

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    kisune (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 10:15am

    Re: Well Siri sorta agrees

    Ah yes, but now they've changed the way siri responds to that inquiry to something like "the one you're holding"

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 17th, 2012 @ 10:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Bastardization of a famous quote

    Apple or Apple Not, there is no Microsoft...

     

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    DinDaddy (profile), May 17th, 2012 @ 2:52pm

    Re: Re:

    No. The combined claims of the patent are for it to bring up a contextual menu with more than one choice when clicking on a number. Simply bringing up the dialer would not violate the patent in question.

    Still obvious and unworthy of patent protection, though.

     

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    Dave Xanatos, May 17th, 2012 @ 9:52pm

    Re:

    Apple is to Unix what Disney is to literature.

     

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    Mike, May 28th, 2012 @ 4:22am

    Re: Well Siri sorta agrees

    That not true, Siri does not think that lumina thing you're talking about is the best phone out there. Stop making stuff up and then writing it on the Internet.

     

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    avnish, Jun 3rd, 2012 @ 11:53am

    Interesting information

    This information is very new for us. Thanks for sharing this.

     

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    atomike-patentattorney, Jun 18th, 2012 @ 12:13pm

    Lord, please help us

    I think if the new product is significantly more innovative than the previous one, patents should not apply.

    Define significantly more innovative and problem solved.

     

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    Johnie12, Mar 26th, 2014 @ 11:45pm

    Can anyone will suggest to choose the right kind of HTC mobile service centre in my nearby area??

     

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