Blink-182 Rewards Fans Who Uploaded Unauthorized Clips On YouTube
from the nicely-done dept
Nearly two years ago, we wrote about an interview with Tom Delonge from the band Blink-182, in which his views on the music industry seemed very closely aligned to exactly what we’ve been saying for years:
The one thing I’ve learned is that, like any other type of art, it evolves. So if you’re a business that supports a type of art, you need to evolve with the art. Now, a lot of things have happened that have made creating art a lot easier with the computer. And it’s also made the distribution of art a lot easier…. What I have chosen to believe is that if you look at your band with a modern filter, your band has so much potential to have all these different elements about it. You can create all this really cool merchandise and concert/live experiences. You can create a really cool portal on your website. You can mix all these elements together and I always believe that if the tools are available, you can monetize all these other elements, and not really worry about selling the record. In fact, I believe that, you should take down every barrier and put as much music out there for free…
In my mind, the way the music industry is changing is that music is easier to make and it’s easier to give away for free. And that will enable the band and the music and the art and everything to be bigger than it’s ever been. It’s just how do you collect that and how do you build your business…
So it comes as little surprise to find out that the band has decided to do something cool with fans who “infringe.” As a whole bunch of you have been sending in, the band created “the film festival you didn’t know you entered,” in which they (with the help of AT&T who appears to be sponsoring the band) collected a bunch of unauthorized YouTube clips and put them together in a montage to launch their first new single in eight years:
And then we rewarded them for it.
Thanks for being a fan.
Comments on “Blink-182 Rewards Fans Who Uploaded Unauthorized Clips On YouTube”
Why didn't they just ask YouTube?
“AT&T helped us search YouTube for every instance of fans using our music without our permission.”
So…AT&T has their own version of YouTube’s Content ID?
Re: Why didn't they just ask YouTube?
Or, you know, they just searched for “blink-182” and looked up every video that wasn’t an audio-only video or an official blink-182 video.
Re: Re: Why didn't they just ask YouTube?
Or, you know, they just searched for “blink-182” and looked up every video that wasn’t an audio-only video or an official blink-182 video.
Well, right. That was kinda my (sarcastic, indirect) point. The wording “helped us” just seemed a bit odd to me. It implied some rather complex process (as in Content ID) rather than just a simple search.
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Or, maybe, they offered the man power to weed through the results.
That’s why I took it to mean anyway.
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More likely it’s just part of their sponsorship deal – a fancy version of “presented by”
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I don’t think AT&T used weed to help them search, probably just the band members.
You know what’s the saddest thing? Some jerk is going to sue them for copyright infringement.
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Your comment is unclear. Some jerk is going to sue who? A fan, or the band?
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its perfectly clear. some fan is going to sue the band for misusing their video
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The funny part is, that is what I was just thinking.
The band made a great move there, but how come I smell someone else coming after them saying “I did not authorize the use of my image in their video for use of many lots of money. I want money now too.”
Or something like that…
Yeah, but this sort of thing only works previously really popular but mostly out of the public eye for the last 8 years pop punk bands.
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I didn’t see these guys giving away their music before they became multi-millionaires via cd sales…
That the song is horrid crap not worth purchasing probably doesn’t hurt either.
Re: huh?
Can someone translate this into english?
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It’s a mild mockery of the “Masnick effect”.
Basically, earlier in this site’s life when new models were being discussed, some moron would come in say “yeah but it will only work for X”. If an unknown was successful, they said it wouldn’t work for big bands. If a name act tried it, they said it wouldn’t work for unknowns.
The pattern was quickly noticed, and mocked out of general usage.
Interesting
Google Reader says “This video contains content from UMG. It is restricted from playback on certain sites.”
One of my favourite bands just became a bit more favouriter.
This is potentially the biggest instance of copyright infringement ever perpetrated. Have the two large industrial concerns AT&T and Blink-182 thrown down their gauntlets and joined us in our corner?
Quoted within article…
Noooooo!
Shouldn’t the art have to (d)evolve with the money and obsolete business models?
It cool. It’s perhaps proof they don’t have anything else going on either. Who knows?
Another techdirt false dichotomy: Either you’re a fan or you’re a criminal.
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Copyright infringement is against the law. Only criminals break the law.
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Speeding is against the law. Only criminals speed.
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Another techdirt false dichotomy: Either you’re a fan or you’re a criminal.
Huh? I have never said any such thing. I have only pointed out that there are some who treat their fans as fans, and others who treat their fans as criminals. I don’t think fans should be criminalized. It’s some of the folks in the industry who seem to think that.
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> Huh? I have never said any such thing.
You should know by now that anonymous cowards are always going to put words in your mouth. They’ll also accuse you of having a position that you never said you stood for. They’ll even accuse you of having a position you’ve expressly disclaimed.
So why do you stand for hurting puppies and kittens?
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You hurt puppies and kittens?
I will report you to the Peta organization.
You will see when 100 nude actresses are standing outside your door protesting what it means to cross puppies and kittens, and Peta.
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“You will see when 100 nude actresses are standing outside your door protesting what it means to cross puppies and kittens, and Peta.”
?? thats what happens? I kill kittens then
Re: Re: Another techdirt false dichotomy: Either you're a fan or you're a criminal.
I think what the AC means is that fans can be fans and still be criminals, too.
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Not sure if serious.
I love it so much when I see stuff like this. Totally made my day 🙂
CORPORATE sponsorship.
I didn’t gloss over your blithe minimizing: “(with the help of AT&T who appears to be sponsoring the band)”. A Google search reveals that this is a major and direct link; they’re openly and vigorously promoting it. — To what end isn’t clear, but it’s just GIANT AT&T using a band to advertise, SAME OLD METHOD, so DOESN’T support your notions, Mike, this is just RANK COMMERCIALISM, rather sickening.
http://www.zacks.com/research/get_news.php?id=216p0599
“With AT&T’s support, via the HTC Status(TM) and Facebook programs, this tour is really going to deliver the most in-depth experience for our fans.”
Re: CORPORATE sponsorship.
Pish tosh, sir.
The is “Rank commercialism” PLUS treating the fans like fans rather than like criminals.
Re: CORPORATE sponsorship.
The idea remains illustrative. The corporate sponsorship embellishes the idea that big money can be involved even when the concepts of “free” and “connecting with fans” are used in a business model. You can see the Techdirt Insight community and other corporate ties and easily figure out that “commercialism” is not one of the things that this blog stands against. And advertising is still a valid way to monetize content, even though this blog has highlighted other innovative ways as well.
Re: CORPORATE sponsorship.
Yes, I agree with you 100%.
Who do businesses think they are, trying to advertise.
Who do businesses think they are, trying to make money.
We should boycott all businesses that advertise.
We should boycott all people who support advertisement.
Except, I will not be there with you when you make this bold move, because I like my technology, and do not want to live in a cave. I also do not like the barter system, or making all my own stuff…
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…and nothing Mike has ever said rules out corporate sponsorship. This 100% supports his notions, as it’s the way that content is used to promote, not who pays for it, that’s the issue usually argued. Nobody’s against labels, for example, only the idiocy they usually act out.
“AT&T helped us search YouTube for every instance of fans using our music without our permission.
And then we rewarded them for it.
Thanks for being a fan.”
—– NOW WE HAVE YOUR IP Addresses!!!..MWAHAHAHAHA!
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erm… no they don’t.
Blink-182 Rewards Fans Who Uploaded Unauthorized Clips On YouTube, But Punishes Everyone Else With Ears
I fixed it for you.
If I like you...
If I like you (a band, a company, etc.) and what you produce/sell I will buy your stuff. Even if I don’t have to (its available for free etc.) Because I want to support you so that you will make more stuff.
Also, I liked the song but I am a fan of Blink-182 and I like their sound.
I’m really taken by that quote:
“AT&T helped us search YouTube for every instance of fans using our music without our permission.
And then we rewarded them for it.
Thanks for being a fan.”
Sometimes the best arguments are the ones implicit in the statement. I’d like to present just the above – no further explanation – to a pro-DRM/take-down individual and see what they make of it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/davidewalt/2011/08/03/felicia-day-dragon-age-redemption/
When you treat people with respect is respect you get back, just ask Felicia Day.
She is making more money then in her previous career and all she does now is to give free content to the public LoL
Since 1979, copyright infringement has been responsible for the death of over 9 million tubes.
The Techdirt Piracy Cartel alone has sponsored over half of those deaths.
Please, think of the tubes.
not in germany 🙁
http://imgur.com/Ydh5K.png
Mmm I wonder if AT&T payed them anything for it?
Would be nice if artists could just get sponsored, and release their music for free. ^.^
Tho. I doubt it.