Facebook Says It Violates The Terms Of Service Of Their New Snoopervision Glasses If You Cover The 'I'm Recording You' LED

from the like-that'll-work dept

You've likely heard by now that Facebook has launched their own version of sunglasses with a built-in camera, in partnership with Ray Ban, called "Ray Ban Stories" (because, seriously, which brand is cooler right now? Facebook? Or Ray Ban?). Lots of people are comparing it to the failed disaster that was Google Glass (which gave rise to the term "Glassholes") or SnapChat's similar product, and lots of people are calling out the potential privacy issues associated with these snoopervision glasses. To be honest, personally I feel like at least some of those concerns are typical moral panics, akin to people freaking out when the camera itself was invented, such as this story about early Kodak cameras:

The appearance of Eastman's cameras was so sudden and so pervasive that the reaction in some quarters was fear. A figure called the "camera fiend" began to appear at beach resorts, prowling the premises until he could catch female bathers unawares. One resort felt the trend so heavily that it posted a notice: "PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO USE THEIR KODAKS ON THE BEACH." Other locations were no safer. For a time, Kodak cameras were banned from the Washington Monument. The "Hartford Courant" sounded the alarm as well, declaring that "the sedate citizen can't indulge in any hilariousness without the risk of being caught in the act and having his photograph passed around among his Sunday School children."

And, frankly, if someone wants to record people surreptitiously, there are tons of ways to do so today already that are a lot easier (and often a lot cheaper) than an ugly pair of sun glasses. I think the bigger issue in the long run is going to be coming up with a new set of social norms and social cues for what is and what is not appropriate here. But that's a debate for another day.

What amazes me about the rollout of Facebook's glasses is that they seem to think that they can stop people from covering the LED light that goes on when you're recording... by claiming that it's a terms of service violation. That's what a Facebook VP told Buzzfeed writer Katie Notopoulos, whose article on the whole Facebook glasses thing is absolutely worth reading. But this bit is just pure silliness and makes Facebook look ridiculous:

Although you can’t turn off the light on the glasses or through the app, I was able to do this the old fashion way: I put a tiny piece of masking tape over the LED light and colored the tape black with a Sharpie. It covered it up perfectly.

Sometimes to stop the creeps, you have to become...a creep.

Alex Himel, VP of AR at Facebook Reality Labs, informed me over a Zoom chat that taping over the LED light was a violation of the terms of service of the glasses, which prohibit tampering with the device. Be warned.

Yeah, that's not how any of this works. Claiming that putting a piece of tape over a light is "tampering" that violates the terms is highly questionable. Second, thinking that that even matters is just exceptionally silly. If people want to cover the light, they'll cover the light. At least confront that head on rather than with a "ooooh, you'll break your warranty" kind of nonsense. But this is Facebook and Facebook is going to do Facebook type things and believe that the terms of service rules all.

Beyond the ridiculousness of this response, it drifts into right to repair territory and questions of ownership. Facebook has taken over enough of people's lives as is. They shouldn't be out there telling you what you can do with physical products you purchased, even if they're associated with the product.

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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2021 @ 12:21pm

    I think "Facebook Reality Labs" says it all: they're trying to commoditize Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field.

    That's not the way it works, guys.

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    Koby (profile), 10 Sep 2021 @ 12:42pm

    CYA

    There's a handful of two party consent states when it comes to recording. I bet the LED feature is there primarily to appease the lawyers. If someone files a lawsuit, FB can at least sort of claim that they took steps to notify everyone in the area that their glasses were actively recording. Because of their policy, they might be successful in court at shifting liability onto the users, and could maybe get regulators off their back.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2021 @ 1:05pm

    First of all, spy cams are cheap and easy to acquire so anyone who wants to surreptitiously record others can do so less obviously than with stupid looking Facebook glasses.

    People hold up their phones while using them all the time and it's already not clear when they're filming.

    Even when Google Glass was being tested, I didn't understand the attacks on so-called glassholes. It wasn't being recorded that was the problem. It was the knowledge that they were being recorded that drove people irrationally crazy in public places where they didn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

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  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2021 @ 1:20pm

    Re: CYA

    IANAL, but I highly doubt such a lawsuit would stand. Holding Facebook liable for the illicit use of their devices would be akin to holding Victorinox legally responsible for a murder that was carried out using a Swiss Army knife.

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  5. identicon
    Bobvious, 10 Sep 2021 @ 2:21pm

    Wait until Elton John gets a pair

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  6. icon
    brandx (profile), 10 Sep 2021 @ 2:33pm

    Re: Re: CYA

    Or like holding Facebook or Twitter responsible for users' posts - how crazy would that be!

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  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2021 @ 2:52pm

    Who'd have thought after just a few years, Zuckerberg would have gotten bored masturbating to users uploaded videos, and now wants to tug it to live streams?

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    Scote, 10 Sep 2021 @ 3:12pm

    Limited CYA

    The whole covering the light violates the TOS seems a pretty transparent CYA clause. But it is also useful for threatening journalists who show how to do it, thus violating the FB TOS and "justifying" FB banning their accounts.

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  9. identicon
    sumquy, 10 Sep 2021 @ 3:19pm

    this article is missing the point. the fb vp is saying that fb is not legally liable. he couldn't give a rat's ass if people actually do it, or for addressing any privacy issues.

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 10 Sep 2021 @ 6:27pm

    stares in wtf

    Anyone want to tell them about all of the people violating FaceBooks TOS in thousands of ways everyday on their platform, who rarely face 'punishment'?

    Our spyglasses are better than the ones available at 1/3 the price... we have an led.

    Something something French people assaulting the guy who had his GoogleGlasses bonded to his face b/c they KNEW he was recording them.

    I was in Target in the dressing room and I know I saw a light on this creepy guys glasses I know he was filming me to see what price he could get from the sex traffickers for me!

    I was walking in the parking lot and saw the light on the glasses on a guy walking towards me, before he could kidnap me I maced him and then shot him!

    Yep... no possible way this could go wrong... nope nope nope... we have a TOS.

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  11. icon
    iSights (profile), 11 Sep 2021 @ 12:37pm

    Someone (Apple?) filed a patent on a recording light that was an integral part of the camera and lens itself. Couldn't cover up the light w/o covering up the lens.

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