HideTechdirt is off for the long weekend! We'll be back with our regular posts tomorrow.
HideTechdirt is off for the long weekend! We'll be back with our regular posts tomorrow.

NY Times Political Reporter Believes Telling Right From Wrong Is Beyond His Job Description; He's Wrong

from the the-view-from-absolutely-nowhere dept

For many years we've talked about the silly position that many journalism organizations take, in which their interpretation of being "objective" is to have what Professor Jay Rosen has called "the view from nowhere." I understand where this inclination comes from -- with the idea that if people think you're biased or one-sided that it taints the legitimacy or credibility of what you're reporting on. But in practice it often comes off as bland nothingness, and reporters willing to repeat any old nonsense that politicians and others put forth. Indeed, I'd argue that many people in the politics realm have learned to use this to their own advantage, and to say any old bullshit, knowing that the press will repeat it in a manner that only gives the original claim more validity and attention -- rather than calling it out as bullshit.

Similarly, such a bland "view from nowhere" creates a standard of "objective" reporting that is not there. Journalists always need to make choices -- choices about what to include and what not to include, who to quote and who not to quote. And, of course, journalists do have opinions and pretending otherwise is just silly. As such, we've long called out why this kind of view from nowhere is ridiculous, and journalism outlets that do silly things like ban reporters from stating opinions are not being "objective," they're denying reality.

The NY Times is running a new series on "Understanding the NY Times," which I think is actually a great idea by itself. A big part of the problem with the way people (don't) understand journalism today is that so much of how journalism works is set forth in an effective code of unwritten rules that many journalists learn as they get into the business, but which the public has no clue about. Non-journalists often impute a kind of motive to journalists that is laughable if you know actual journalists (or happen to be one). So, it's good (if unlikely to impact much) that the Times has chosen to do something to open up some of the details and explain things.

And yet... a recent piece in this series about how journalists "try to stay impartial" really seems to show just how silly this particular policy is. A bunch of people on Twitter commented, in particular, on a short comment provided by the NY Times' White House correspondent Peter Baker. In response to a discussion about whether or not reporters should even vote, he says the following:

As reporters, our job is to observe, not participate, and so to that end, I don’t belong to any political party, I don’t belong to any non-journalism organization, I don’t support any candidate, I don’t give money to interest groups and I don’t vote.

I try hard not to take strong positions on public issues even in private, much to the frustration of friends and family. For me, it’s easier to stay out of the fray if I never make up my mind, even in the privacy of the kitchen or the voting booth, that one candidate is better than another, that one side is right and the other wrong.

Many people are calling out the not voting part as ridiculous -- and I agree. I have no problem with people choosing not to vote, as I believe that's a personal decision that everyone should make for themselves, using whatever rationale they think appropriate, no matter how crazy. Yet, to think that this is somehow noble of a reporter or some sign of objectivity is just silly. It feels more like putting on a performance of objectivity.

But the much crazier part of this is not the lack of voting, but the final point he makes, that his job as a reporter is not to say "that one side is right and the other wrong." That's basically his only job as a reporter. As we've pointed out multiple times in the past, figuring out the truth is the key job of a journalist. And if you think that failing to say when someone is wrong makes you a better journalist, you're wrong (and I'm not afraid to say that).

Of course, there may be a larger point that Baker is getting at here, and he just failed to explain it well. So many political debates do get dragged down into questions of "right" or "wrong" on issues of opinion -- where "rightness" or "wrongness" is not something that can easily be assessed. The line between facts and opinions can get a bit fuzzy at times -- especially with policy issues. Will this particular policy accomplish what its backers claim? Well, who knows? We can look at past data or other evidence that suggests one outcome or the other, and that would be useful to report on. But every situation may be different, and different variables may be at play. So, calling certain claims right or wrong can be challenging in the best of times -- but simply swearing off saying if something is right or wrong seems to suggest not just a cop out from doing your job as a reporter, but also a fairly cynical take on what the role of a reporter actually should be.

Filed Under: bias, journalism, objectivity, peter baker, reporting, view from nowhere
Companies: ny times

Reader Comments

Subscribe: RSS

View by: Time | Thread

  1. icon
    Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 4 Mar 2020 @ 5:37am


    "Perhaps td is right, but it is supported by no argument."

    The argument would be the uses of the term "reporter".

    The statement that a reporter's job is to find out what is right and report that is as dictionary-definition clear as the statement that "'down' refers to the vector aligned towards the center of mass".
    With that out of the way the rest of the OP becoming a lampoon is fairly natural.

    "Traditionally, it was relatively easy to stay neutral, merely report on the facts."

    That has, in fact, never been true for anything but a science journalist who only has to bring empirical observation to the table. For any other journalist it's all about finding a story, validating it, and commenting on the parts found to be untrue.

    The fourth estate has a rather important job, most of which has to do with finding out whether the talking head in front of the microphone is "right", "wrong", or "flat-out lying".

    "But the irony is that such a group created, so easily led, because they are ignorant of logic, also create a group easily misled as well."

    This has similarly always been true, ever since the "news" were written in cuneiform on clay tablets. We rely on journalists and reporters to present a hopefully less biased portrayal of the carefully spun rhetoric fed us by a politician whose entire career may rest on their ability to spin the public a good yarn.

    "How thinking was taught in the schools of yore..."

    Was to provide a ready answer to any hard question and align the young inquisitive minds in such a direction that their future questions were never aimed at contemporary authority.
    Every "school of yore" in the US of the 50's taught, to some degree, why the White Man was superior to the Black Man, in some way, even outside of the south. Later on they taught children that if their mommy and daddy were reading many foreign books those children should probably call the committee of UnAmerican activities so Uncle Hoover could come have a chat with mummy and daddy.

    The "schools of yore" might have benefited the young when it came to understanding math, but there's a bloody good reason that today 50% of the US population believes, with all their heart, that evolution is wrong and science is suspect.

    And it's not because they were taught to question. they were taught to believe.

Add Your Comment

Have a Techdirt Account? Sign in now. Want one? Register here

Subscribe to the Techdirt Daily newsletter

Comment Options:

  • Use markdown. Use plain text.
  • Remember name/email/url (set a cookie)

Follow Techdirt
Special Affiliate Offer

Report this ad  |  Hide Techdirt ads
Essential Reading
Techdirt Deals
Report this ad  |  Hide Techdirt ads
Techdirt Insider Chat
Report this ad  |  Hide Techdirt ads
Recent Stories
Report this ad  |  Hide Techdirt ads

This site, like most other sites on the web, uses cookies. For more information, see our privacy policy. Got it

Email This

This feature is only available to registered users. Register or sign in to use it.