Appeals Court Affirms: Trump Can't Block Followers On Social Media

from the the-1st-amendment-abides dept

A little over a year ago, we wrote about the district court ruling saying that it's unconstitutional for the President to block followers on social media. The case was pretty interesting, raising questions about what counts as a "designated public forum" online. As we noted at the time, plenty of people were likely to misinterpret this ruling to mean that social media sites themselves were "public forums" and therefore had to abide by the 1st Amendment -- though one might hope that the Supreme Court's pretty clear ruling suggesting that social media sites are not in any way public forums would put a rest to that argument (spoiler alert: it won't).

Either way, the Trump administration appealed the lower court ruling and earlier this week, the 2nd Circuit affirmed the lower court ruling and agreed that it was a 1st Amendment violation for Trump to block followers. Once again, the legal specifics here are a bit in the weeds, and as Ken White noted in a tweet, it would have been nice if the ruling was more careful and more clear in dealing with the various complicated concepts at play. On that front, it failed. Overall, though, the ruling is the right decision -- it just would have been nice if the judges had been more careful in explaining it.

The key point, though, is that if (1) a public official is (2) using social media (3) for official purposes (4) to create a space of open dialogue (and all four of those factors are met) then they cannot block people from following them based on the views those users express, as it violates the 1st Amendment. The court is explicit that this ruling has nothing to do with whether or not private companies are bound by the 1st Amendment (because they are not):

We do not consider or decide whether an elected official violates the Constitution by excluding persons from a wholly private social media account. Nor do we consider or decide whether private social media companies are bound by the First Amendment when policing their platforms. We do conclude, however, that the First Amendment does not permit a public official who utilizes a social media account for all manner of official purposes to exclude persons from an otherwise‐open online dialogue because they expressed views with which the official disagrees

The court makes it clear that President Trump's Twitter account meets the various factors above. He's a public official (duh) using Twitter (also duh). There is some discussion of how it's used for official purposes:

The President and multiple members of his administration have described his use of the Account as official. The President has stipulated that he, with the assistance of Defendant Daniel Scavino, uses the Account frequently “to announce, describe, and defend his policies; to promote his Administration’s legislative agenda; to announce official decisions; to engage with foreign political leaders; to publicize state visits; [and] to challenge media organizations whose coverage of his Administration he believes to be unfair.” Id. at 56. In June 2017, then‐White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated at a press conference that President Trump’s tweets should be considered “official statements by the President of the United States.” Id. at 55‐56. In June 2017, the White House responded to a request for official White House records from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence by referring the Committee to a statement made by the President on Twitter.

Moreover, the Account is one of the White House’s main vehicles for conducting official business. The President operates the Account with the assistance of defendant Daniel Scavino, the White House Director of Social Media and Assistant to the President. The President and his aides have characterized tweets from the Account as official statements of the President. For example, the President used the Account to announce the nomination of Christopher Wray as FBI director and to announce the administration’s ban on transgender individuals serving in the military. The President used the Account to first announce that he had fired Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and replaced him with General John Kelly. President Trump also used the Account to inform the public about his discussions with the South Korean president concerning North Korea’s nuclear program and about his decision to sell sophisticated military hardware to Japan and South Korea.

The court then notes that the President chose to block certain individuals because they were criticizing the President.

In May and June of 2017, the President blocked each of the Individual Plaintiffs (but not the Knight First Amendment Institute) from the Account. The government concedes that each of them was blocked after posting replies in which they criticized the President or his policies and that they were blocked as a result of their criticism.

In court, the DOJ tried to argue that while the Twitter account is part of Trump's presidency, that the blocking was not a "state action." The court does not buy this. At all.

No one disputes that the First Amendment restricts government regulation of private speech but does not regulate purely private speech. If, in blocking, the President were acting in a governmental capacity, then he may not discriminate based on viewpoint among the private speech occurring in the Account’s interactive space. As noted, the government argues first that the Account is the President’s private property because he opened it in 2009 as a personal account and he will retain personal control over the Account after his presidency. However, the fact that government control over property is temporary, or that the government does not “own” the property in the sense that it holds title to the property, is not determinative of whether the property is, in fact, sufficiently controlled by the government to make it a forum for First Amendment purposes. See Se. Promotions, Ltd. v. Conrad, 420 U.S. 546, 547‐52 (1975) (holding privately‐owned theater leased to and operated by city was public forum). Temporary control by the government can still be control for First Amendment purposes.

The government’s contention that the President’s use of the Account during his presidency is private founders in the face of the uncontested evidence in the record of substantial and pervasive government involvement with, and control over, the Account. First, the Account is presented by the President and the White House staff as belonging to, and operated by, the President. The Account is registered to “Donald J. Trump, ‘45th President of the United States of America, Washington, D.C.’” App’x at 54. The President has described his use of the Account as “MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL.” Id. at 55. The White House social media director has described the Account as a channel through which “President Donald J. Trump . . . [c]ommunicat[es] directly with you, the American people!” Id. The @WhiteHouse account, an undoubtedly official Twitter account run by the government, “directs Twitter users to ‘Follow for the latest from @POTUS @realDonaldTrump and his Administration.” Id. Further, the @POTUS account frequently republishes tweets from the Account. As discussed earlier, according to the National Archives and Records Administration, the President’s tweets from the Account “are official records that must be preserved under the Presidential Records Act.” Id. at 57.

Second, since becoming President he has used the Account on almost a daily basis “as a channel for communicating and interacting with the public about his administration.” Id. at 54. The President utilizes White House staff to post tweets and to maintain the Account. He uses the Account to announce “matters related to official government business,” including high‐level White House and cabinet‐level staff changes as well as changes to major national policies. Id. at 56. He uses the Account to engage with foreign leaders and to announce foreign policy decisions and initiatives. Finally, he uses the “like,” “retweet,” “reply,” and other functions of the Account to understand and to evaluate the public’s reaction to what he says and does. In sum, since he took office, the President has consistently used the Account as an important tool of governance and executive outreach. For these reasons, we conclude that the factors pointing to the public, non‐private nature of the Account and its interactive features are overwhelming.

The government argues that since any Twitter user can block people, so should the President be able to do the same. But, again, the Court (correctly) notes that he President is different and held to a different standard (known as the Constitution) that regular people don't have to follow.

The court notes that not every public official account is automatically covered this way. They need to actually use it for government business, among other things:

Of course, not every social media account operated by a public official is a government account. Whether First Amendment concerns are triggered when a public official uses his account in ways that differ from those presented on this appeal will in most instances be a fact‐specific inquiry. The outcome of that inquiry will be informed by how the official describes and uses the account; to whom features of the account are made available; and how others, including government officials and agencies, 1 regard and treat the account. But these are concerns for other cases and other days and are ones we are not required to consider or resolve on this appeal.

The next section is where the opinion gets a little... less-than-clear in its explanation, which might lead to people annoyingly presenting it as something it is not. First, the government tried to argue that the replies to Trump's Twitter account are not a public forum. But the court notes that it's well established that the First Amendment does apply online (note: this is not saying that private internet companies are bound by the 1st Amendment -- but just that the government is unable to engage in viewpoint discrimination online).

If the Account is a forum—public or otherwise—viewpoint discrimination is not permitted. Int’l Soc. For Krishna Consciousness, Inc. v. Lee, 505 U.S. 672, 679 (1992); see also Pleasant Grove, 555 U.S. at 469‐70 (viewpoint discrimination prohibited in traditional, designated, and limited public forums); Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 806 (viewpoint discrimination prohibited in nonpublic forums). A blocked account is prevented from viewing any of the President’s tweets, replying to those tweets, retweeting them, or liking them. Replying, retweeting, and liking are all expressive conduct that blocking inhibits. Replying and retweeting are messages that a user broadcasts, and, as such, undeniably are speech. Liking a tweet conveys approval or acknowledgment of a tweet and is therefore a symbolic message with expressive content. See, e.g., W. Virginia State Bd. of Educ. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 632‐33 (1943) (discussing symbols as speech). Significantly, the parties agree that all of this expressive conduct is communicated to the thousands of users who interact with the Account. By blocking the Individual Plaintiffs and preventing them from viewing, retweeting, replying to, and liking his tweets, the President excluded the Individual Plaintiffs from a public forum, something the First Amendment prohibits.

The court is also not impressed by the DOJ's claim that blocking does not burden anyone's speech.

That assertion is not well‐grounded in the facts presented to us. The government is correct that the Individual Plaintiffs have no right to require the President to listen to their speech. See Minnesota State Bd. for Cmty. Colleges v. Knight, 465 U.S. 271, 283 (1984) (a plaintiff has “no constitutional right to force the government to listen to their views”). However, the speech restrictions at issue burden the Individual Plaintiffs’ ability to converse on Twitter with others who may be speaking to or about the President. President Trump is only one of thousands of recipients of the messages the Individual Plaintiffs seek to communicate. While he is certainly not required to listen, once he opens up the interactive features of his account to the public at large he is not entitled to censor selected users because they express views with which he disagrees.

Again: here the ruling could have been clearer. Some will argue (incorrectly) that this shows that when people say that if you're banned from one particular platform, even if you have many others, you've had your 1st Amendment rights taken away from you. But, again, the key factor here is whether or not it is state action doing the banning. That's where it's unconstitutional.

It's a good overall ruling and the correct outcome. I just wish the judge had been a bit clearer in some of the statements. And, for those who will falsely use this ruling to argue that the case says that Twitter itself is a public forum and must abide by the 1st Amendment, law professor Eugene Volokh does a nice job explaining why you're wrong:

Whether the First Amendment applies to a speech restriction generally depends on who is imposing the restriction. If the government is imposing the restriction, then the First Amendment does apply, whether or not the speech is on private property. Likewise, if a private entity is imposing the restriction, then the First Amendment doesn't apply, whether or not the speech is on government property. (If, for instance, I hit you because of an offensive message that you're wearing on a city sidewalk, I'm guilty of a crime and a tort, but not a First Amendment violation, unless I'm acting in my capacity as an agent for the government. If your private employer fires you because it learns of your having said something offensive on a city sidewalk, then in many states it wouldn't be guilty of anything, and in any event not of a First Amendment violation.)

So, again, one can argue that @RealDonaldTrump is run by President Trump in his personal capacity, not his official capacity; but once the court rejected that view, then it doesn't matter that @RealDonaldTrump is a forum set up on a private company's computers. Though Twitter, as a private actor, isn't bound by the First Amendment, a government official, acting in his official capacity, is bound by it.

Either way, kudos to the team at the Knight 1st Amendment Center who brought this case and have continued to pursue this key (and very interesting) aspect of 1st Amendment law.

Filed Under: 1st amendment, donald trump, elected officials, free speech, public forums


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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 12:02pm

    having the attitude of a tyrannical dictator, this will go down with Trump like the proverbial LEAD BALLOON!

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  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 12:39pm

    Boy, this won't backfire horribly

    I mean, it's not like there's a Social Media Summit going on this week or anything that will hopefully end the B.S. from Big Tech.

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  3. identicon
    Someone, 10 Jul 2019 @ 12:59pm

    So if a president holds a public town hall to get public input and then limits who can get in, say because they're wearing an impeach the president button, is the event unconstitutional? Would it be unconstitutional to remove protesters that get into the event, effectively blocking their speech?

    These situations meet all four points, substituting a townhall for social media. Is social media really that special?

    I think this is a bad decision and will be tossed 5-4 by the Supremes.

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  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:07pm

    Re:

    You miss on two points here:

    1. The event isn't rendered unconstitutional simply because some daft door-person violated the 1A rights of a putative attendee by blocking them from entering based on the content of their message. Instead, the putative attendee's case is limited to the actual unconstitutional actions of the daft door-person.
    2. Yes, it would be unconstitutional to remove a garden-variety sign-bearing protester from such a meatspace event. (Think of Lozman v. Riviera Beach for one recent example, although I am sure there's plenty of other caselaw on point for this.)

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  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:29pm

    Re:

    These situations meet all four points, substituting a townhall for social media. Is social media really that special?

    I mean, no? They're not special at all. Townhalls are routinely "attacked" by people who dislike the speaker. It's so incredibly common for a large contingent of such people to show up to the meeting to protest that your seeming ignorance of this is...suspicious, to say the least.

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  6. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:48pm

    So simple even a president should be able to understand it

    This really shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp.

    The government is barred from certain actions thanks to the constitution, one of which is imposing limitations/penalties for speech outside of very strict limits(of which 'they said mean things to/about me' doesn't qualify).

    When a government employee/agent/agency uses something like email or social media for official government business their involvement causes that particular account to also be bound by limitations on the government and treated as official with regards to things like FOIA requests and the like, thanks to it being used for official government business.

    Don't want your email and/or social media account FOIA-able? Don't want to be bound by the first amendment when it comes to the public interacting with you on it? Don't use it for government business and/or communications.

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  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:48pm

    Maybe Twitter needs a shadowblock feature, so people who are blocked don't know it.

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  8. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:53pm

    Re: Bad Decision

    yup, the key is "Official Purposes"

    if a court construes any public or semi-public Presidential words as official government business, no matter the circumstances -- then anybody is free (1st Amendment?) to directly inject themselves into that communications 'event'. Very slippery slope.

    Countless public government officials use private social media accounts. Why would Trump be singled out?

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    That One Guy (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 1:59pm

    ... nope, just can't think of one.

    Countless public government officials use private social media accounts. Why would Trump be singled out?

    If only there was a single massive difference between a some random public government official and the president of the united states that might explain why he'd get more attention...

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  10. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:02pm

    Re:

    I might be thinking of the wrong platform, but I believe I've heard of a feature where you can 'mute' a person such that while everyone else can see what they post you don't. If that is a feature of Twitter and Trump did something like that he'd almost certainly be in the clear, as everyone else could see what was being posted, just not him.

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  11. icon
    Stephen T. Stone (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:04pm

    They have one. It’s called “mute”.

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  12. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:20pm

    Re: ... nope, just can't think of one.

    Hey using logic is a totally unfair advantage!

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  13. icon
    James Burkhardt (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:33pm

    Re: Re:

    The court specifically called out the mute feature as a way Trump could avoid individuals he found distressing while not denying citizens the public square he has created.

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  14. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:45pm

    Re:

    So if a president holds a public town hall to get public input and then limits who can get in, say because they're wearing an impeach the president button, is the event unconstitutional?

    The event is not, no. But the action of preventing the person from getting in IS. No different than on the president's Twitter.

    Would it be unconstitutional to remove protesters that get into the event, effectively blocking their speech?

    That depends on WHY the protester was removed. If they were removed for simply disagreeing with organizers of the event, absolutely that would be unconstitutional. Have you never heard of town hall meetings where people show up en masse to protest and must legally be allowed to be there?

    Now if they were removed because they were causing a disturbance or putting other people in danger, then they would be within their rights to remove him because that protester broke the law/rules.

    These situations meet all four points, substituting a townhall for social media. Is social media really that special?

    Nope and as explained, the situation would play out identically in a town hall as it would on social media.

    I think this is a bad decision and will be tossed 5-4 by the Supremes.

    And I think you don't understand how the Constitution and freedom of speech work. It may very well get tossed if it gets that far but that wouldn't make them correct, just corrupt. Especially if it's tossed by 5-4 as you suggest.

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  15. icon
    Thad (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:49pm

    Re: So simple even a president should be able to understand it

    This really shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp.

    As the article implies, we've got regular trolls here who routinely fail to grasp it (or at least pretend they don't). I don't think they're any dumber than the president.

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  16. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:49pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    I thought as much, but my memory was fuzzy on whether that was a Twitter or Facebook feature, so thanks for the confirmation.

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  17. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 2:54pm

    Re: Re:

    yup, the key is "Official Purposes"

    And his Twitter account is used for official purposes. He's claimed it and his administration has confirmed it. Therefore, as long as he is in office it's a public space subject to the First Amendment.

    if a court construes any public or semi-public Presidential words as official government business, no matter the circumstances -- then anybody is free (1st Amendment?) to directly inject themselves into that communications 'event'.

    That is literally what the First Amendment says, yes.

    Very slippery slope.

    There is no slope, slippery or otherwise.

    Countless public government officials use private social media accounts. Why would Trump be singled out?

    Because he and his administration have declared and confirmed several times that his personal Twitter account represents an official voice of his administration. As long as that is the case, his Twitter account is subject to First Amendment restrictions.

    He is perfectly welcome to issue a statement that his personal Twitter account will no longer be an official voice of his administration and subsequently stop using it as such to announce official US business and instead use it as a personal account for his personal speech only. In that scenario he would be exactly like all other government officials who use private social media accounts. This is why he is singled out, because he deliberately made his account official government business.

    If he wants his personal account to remain personal, he can tweet all his government policy stuff from the @POTUS account. That's pretty much what it is there for after all. Given his ego and idiocy though, he's unlikely to do that.

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  18. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 3:10pm

    When knowledge undermines your argument, one needs to go

    As I noted a while back in another comment section, 'It is difficult to get a person to understand something when their argument depends upon their (real or claimed) inability to understand it.'

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  19. icon
    Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 3:29pm

    Different angles and dangles

    Scott Greenfield had a post about this today entitled First Test of 2d Circuit’s Twitter Ruling? @AOC Make sure you check out the comments.

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  20. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2019 @ 3:46pm

    Re:

    How’s the vodka today Ivan?

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  21. icon
    Thad (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 3:49pm

    Re: Different angles and dangles

    I can't access the link at the moment, but there's a good article on one of the suits against AOC at Fortune:

    According to Katie Fallow, a senior staff attorney at the Knight First Amendment Institute, which brought the successful lawsuit against Trump, Octasio-Cortez is poised to lose the lawsuit.

    "It does appear she’s been using the account as an extension of her office and a way to conduct government business. If she has blocked people from that account based on their viewpoints, the same principles would apply based on our suit against Trump," she said.

    [...]

    A harder question is when obviously political Twitter accounts, like those of Trump and Octasio-Cortez, can block users for valid reasons. In the case of Octasio-Cortez, especially, many of the replies to her tweets contain language that is sexist, racist or threatening. Does she have to permit such people to follow her all the same?

    Fallow says the legal issue in this case tips into a grey area. While the First Amendment does not protect speech known as "true threats," the law is less clear when it comes to harassment or abuse.

    She added that politicians could exercise some control over their social media accounts by stating they will exclude certain users for certain behavior, so long as such exclusion is done on a "viewpoint neutral" basis. Fallow noted that staff of the House of Representatives could likely assist them to do so.

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  22. icon
    ECA (profile), 10 Jul 2019 @ 4:33pm

    EASY

    You as a Representative of the Public, and HEAD of the department, CAN NOT restrict access to yourself..
    Unless there is something specific about an Individual(a nut), you can not restrict their Access TO SIAD PERSON..
    Esp. when you have a PUBLIC FORUM, that you created.

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  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 12:17am

    The reason I do not go near twitter, and in fact block it with the host file on all machines. A O Cortez is now being sued for the same thing. Got twitter? Got hate. Divide and conquer is the game, so they can keep going to the bank.

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  24. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 1:59am

    Re: So simple even a president should be able to understand it

    What about all the groups of people you disagree with whom you believe should be banned from twitter?

    Or PaulTs' groups

    I assume the the tweets are immediately broadcast on television and radio so everyone has access to these important messages?

    If Crowder is booted from twitter, can he still follow the Pres. on twitter?
    If he can't, it doesn't seem right that an asshole like James Woods can get someone banned, preventing them from following and receiving these oh so important tweets.

    I wonder how many people watched Crowders videos and didn't say a fucking thing to Maza.

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  25. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 3:15am

    Where the hell is Poochie, anyway?

    That sound you here is out_of_the_blue angrily grinding his teeth in moral outrage.

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  26. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 7:21am

    He will continue to block users because he thinks he is king emperor or something.

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  27. icon
    Toom1275 (profile), 11 Jul 2019 @ 8:40am

    Re: Re: So simple even a president should be able to understand

    You know, you could have just said "I have absolutely zero understanding about this subject." to make the same message but with a lot less typing.

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  28. identicon
    Digitari, 11 Jul 2019 @ 11:51am

    Re: Re: Different angles and dangles

    you can be banned if you ask President Trump or AOC "are you a retard"? you cannot be banned if you ask "are you mentally deficit"? see the difference? both statements say the same thing, one is a T&C violation. this is so going to go places it was not originally intended it's funny, this was to hurt President Trump, but I think it will bigley backfire. Many lawsuits and a SCOTUS decision in the future.

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  29. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 12:25pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    About the only thing you got right in that was that there will be many lawsuits. (because that's apparently America's favorite pastime these days)

    Everything else you said was flat wrong.

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  30. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 11 Jul 2019 @ 4:31pm

    Re:

    Until a judge grows a spine and hands out an actual penalty rather than a 'pretty please stop doing that' he has no reason not to.

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  31. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2019 @ 6:02pm

    Re: Boy, this won't backfire horribly

    You mean like make platforms liable and then then yeh gets swamped with his critics hate mail anyway because they have to stay neutral?
    Yeah that sounds like something He would do Becuase he’s is an idiot lol

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  32. icon
    bhull242 (profile), 11 Jul 2019 @ 7:37pm

    Re: Re: So simple even a president should be able to understand

    1. A Twitter user cannot (directly) get someone banned; that’s on Twitter, which is a private actor and therefore not bound by the First Amendment. As such, someone being banned/“booted” from Twitter is not a government action, so the First Amendment doesn’t apply.
    2. I don’t know who James Woods is, but unless he’s a government agent acting in that capacity, he can try to get any number of people banned from Twitter for any reason without the First Amendment stopping him from doing so.
    3. Even if he is acting as a public official, he can still get people banned for other reasons, such as harassment. Either way, as stated above, the ban itself is something done by Twitter, so that part wouldn’t be unconstitutional.

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  33. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 12 Jul 2019 @ 12:39am

    'Hypocritical asshole' to put it VERY mildly

    I don’t know who James Woods is,

    Oh do I envy you for that...

    If you feel like wallowing in filth you can search TD for him, there's been a few articles covering his actions posted here in the past.

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  34. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2019 @ 12:16am

    Re: Re: Re: So simple even a president should be able to underst

    Your valuable contribution is noted

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  35. icon
    Toom1275 (profile), 14 Jul 2019 @ 5:33am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: So simple even a president should be able to und

    And your value-less trolling is flagged as such.

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