Coalition Of Rights Activists And Journalists Wants To Know Why DHS, CBP, And ICE Are Spying On Activists And Journalists

from the can't-be-authoritarian-without-exceeding-your-authority dept

Early this March, documents obtained by NBC San Diego showed the DHS was targeting journalists. activists, and immigration lawyers for enhanced screenings and device searches by the CBP. The previously-secret database held dossiers on people suspected of doing nothing more than participating in Constitutionally-protected activity.

The DHS provided no explanation for this collection of dossiers. The CBP attempted to explain its participation in rights violations by first claiming it was necessary to secure the border. Then it said every one of the 59 journalists, lawyers, and activists in the leaked documents were "present" during "violence" that "broke out at the border" last November. That these people would be present at such an event is unsurprising, given the amount of attention being paid to our southern border and immigration in recent months. That the CPB would decide this justifies dossiers, enhanced screenings, and invasive device searches is a bit more disturbing, as it has the potential to negatively affect a number of Constitutional rights.

The Center for Democracy and Technology -- along with dozens of humans rights activists and journalist entities -- have sent a letter to the head of the DHS, demanding this surveillance stop immediately and that an investigation be opened to determine this effort's origins, as well as its extent. It also demands DHS and CBP hand over all policies, guidelines, and documents detailing what information the agencies collected during this possibly-unlawful surveillance.

But there's more to the letter than demands and expressed concerns. CDT's letter also recounts further details that have come to light over the past couple of months, including ICE joining the unconstitutional party to engage in immigration and customs enforcement by… surveilling political protests?

In addition to CBP, ICE engaged in questionable conduct that threatens the rights of free expression and association. ICE-HSI created a spreadsheet of protests that occurred in New York City between July 21 and August 17, 2018. The list contained the names of the groups sponsoring each protest, the political goal of the protest, and the number of people who signed up on Facebook to attend the protest. One spreadsheet was labeled “Anti-Trump Protests.” ICE’s surveillance activity does not appear to be predicated upon any suspected violation of a law ICE enforces.

While we do not see evidence that ICE created records with personally identifying information, it is unambiguous that ICE documented First Amendment-protected activity, which may violate the Privacy Act of 1974 and warrants further investigation. To the extent ICE is monitoring and creating records of First Amendment-protected activity of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, and to the extent such records are not pertinent to and within the scope of its authorized law enforcement activity, such conduct is in violation of the Privacy Act.

The DHS and its subsidiaries are keeping the homeland secure by using Constitutional rights as a doormat. There's nothing about this surveillance and targeting that even remotely suggests the end result will be a safer America. There can be little doubt these activities are being engaged in almost solely for the purpose of dissuading journalists from covering border activities, immigrants from finding good legal representation, and activists of all sorts from expressing their displeasure with the government.

The answers these entities are seeking probably won't arrive any time soon. Most likely, it will take pressure from Congress, along with a number of FOIA lawsuits, to make this information public. The current administration seemingly has no problem with the collateral damage its border-focused directives are creating. And with zero pressure to fall in line with the Constitution coming from up top, it's likely these abuses will continue unabated for immediate future.

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    Stephen T. Stone (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 10:49am

    There's nothing about this surveillance and targeting that even remotely suggests the end result will be a safer America.

    …unless you happen to be one of the people or organizations being protested against.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 10:49am

    Given that the entire main stream media is in the pay of the Progressive wing (ie Communist) of the Democrat Party it is very encouraging that the government is investigation what hate action the Progressives are hatching now.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:04am

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      Entire Main Stream Media ... including Fox News, Brietbart, Infowars,
      This makes no sense does it?

      progressive is synonymous with communist ... wow, I was unaware of this stunning revelation. I'm saved!

      hate action, is that what they are calling it now?

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:18am

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        Dumb conservatives are allowed to exist because they are excellent fodder for liberals.

        Genuine, intelligent conservatives have been silenced.

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          Matthew Cline (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:36am

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          Genuine, intelligent conservatives have been silenced.

          Silenced how?

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:41am

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            By liberal SJW mobs who play dirty when they "have" to, i.e., when they can't refute conservative logic.

            On another note, given that Google invades everyone's privacy, maybe this will wake journalists up to this problem, particularly since Google's "dossier" on every citizen doesn't even have to be accurate. Sauce for the goose and all that.

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              Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:33pm

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              Some of that conservative logic is on display a few posts above this one.

              Many ridiculous conservative arguments have been refuted but some refuse to accept that.

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                Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:08pm

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                The type of conservative logic I speak of can't even see the light of day.

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                  Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:21pm

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                  Xenophobic rantings cannot be classified as logic.

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                  Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 3:13pm

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                  If you speak of them, then they DO see the light of day. It's the ones you refuse to speak of that don't see the light of day.

                  And often, that's a good thing. It's called restraint. A quality currently in short supply on both ends of the political spectrum.

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              Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:11pm

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              Logic = logic. That you need to specify some kind of branch of logic dubbed "conservative logic" implies it is not a legitimate form of logic. Lacking a documented definition of the term I offer you this:

              Conservative Logic
              con·​ser·​va·​tive log·​ic | \ kən-ˈsər-və-tiv lä-jik
              noun

              1. A form of logic known primarily for its utter lack of logic, deductive reasoning or critical thinking.
              2. Lies promulgated by those with a right-wing bias intent on repeating falsehoods often enough that they become truth.
              3. Baseless and semi-random stabs at conclusions selected by their level of support from similarly unintelligent right-wing nutjobs.
                see: Scientology, Sociopath, White Noise

              You're welcome.

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                Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:18pm

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                It's not logical to presume that conservatives are stupid or illogical. Many conservative ideas prove correct over time, just as many liberal ideas have unintended consequences.

                Remember the "temporary" income tax that was enacted a hundred years ago?

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                  Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:19pm

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                  Is this more of your "conservative logic" on display? I don't assume conservatives are stupid. I hold mostly conservative views myself. Neither side is automatically dumb or illogical. Those who post the kind of stuff you do, however, are.

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                  Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:30pm

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                  My penis is bigger than yours, also my dad is stronger and my car is faster.

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                BernardoVerda (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 3:48pm

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                4. common misspelling of: "conservative" rhetoric

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          Matthew Cline (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:53am

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          Also, I'm curious as to some examples of "genuine, intelligent conservatives" that you think have been silenced.

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          Stephen T. Stone (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:56am

          Genuine, intelligent conservatives have been silenced.

          Show me a single “intelligent conservative” who has been permanently and irrevocably silenced — no books, no Internet presence, no interviews with the press, no way to get their voice out to the world whatsoever — by “liberal SJW mobs”. Until then, your claim is bullshit and will be treated as such.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:47am

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        Have you tried watching them on TV? If so you are a fool. If not you are ignorant.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:04am

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      Given that the MSM are in the pocket of the Communists, that pretty much guarantees that the sheeple are going to follow their lead and elect the Reds.

      Good thing that the government will have established the precedent of violating the rights of its political opponents by spying on them! There's no way that could possibly backfire on the right wing when the left wing inevitably takes power!

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:07am

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        Everyone knows the lefty progressive communists are plotting a coup in order to install their King Emperor so that they can force everyone to do their bidding. Boy are they going to be disappointed. lol

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          Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:19am

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          They don't have to install anyone, just call the other guy racist/sexist/intolerant and take away the jobs and internet platform of anyone who isn't PC.

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          Stephen T. Stone (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:58am

          Everyone knows the lefty progressive communists are plotting a coup in order to install their King Emperor

          Funny, Trump is the one “joking” about extending his initial term by at least two years and planning to stay in the White House longer than his constitutionally-limited two four-year terms. He definitely wants to be Super King Big-Nuts — which his base surely would not mind — more than any progressive wants to have one.

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:36pm

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            Yes indeed.

            Sorry for the poe.

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:07pm

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            Actually he says this stuff to piss off liberals.

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              Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:15pm

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              He says that stuff because he's an idiot. It's pissing off nobody. At least half the nation is laughing at him while counting the days til he's out of office.

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              Stephen T. Stone (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 4:49pm

              he says this stuff to piss off liberals

              That does not make it any less frightening, given his demonstrations of authoritarianism and his friendly behavior towards dictators such as Kim Jong-Un and dictator-ish leaders such as Vladimir Putin. Since Trump has already laid a groundwork for contesting the results of the 2020 national election — which he likely will, possibly even if the result is a huge landslide against him — the idea that he could prevent a peaceful transition of power and make himself president longer than the law allows is…unsettling, at a bare minimum.

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:58pm

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            "Trump is the one “joking” about extending his initial term by at least two years"

            He is quite the jokester isn't he?

            Why just the other day he laughed at the suggestion from a crowd of supporters that immigrants should be shot.
            Yes, very funny guy.

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            Bamboo Harvester (profile), 11 May 2019 @ 6:31am

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            Stop. Please. That old chestnut has been bandied about as the "secret plan" of almost every President since at least Nixon.

            Well, not Mr Peanut. Nobody thought anyone unable to find the bathroom had the brains to do so.

            Clinton was the only one who actually DID anything to make people think it was his "secret plan" - when he put tank pillars on Penn Ave and pretty much forted up the White House to protect him from the Vast Right Wing Militia.

            It was even floated for The Sainted Obama.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:07am

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      It's hilarious that this sort of Thought Process for a Belief System exists.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:12pm

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        "Hilarious" wouldn't be the word I'd use. Or maybe it would be, if it were a lot less common.

        As it is, though, I'd go with "terrifying."

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      Dave P., 11 May 2019 @ 10:16am

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      Is this person/troll stark staring, raving mad? Does treatment for terminal paranoia exist? If so, he/she/it certainly needs it. Never have I heard the like of so much disconnected raving and downright waffle. This isn't Trump, incognito, is it? I have stopped reading the comments, as from today.

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    Bamboo Harvester (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:09am

    Makes perfect sense...

    ...if you look at it from an information gathering perspective.

    The "targeted groups" are exactly the kind of people who keep detailed notes.

    Joe the Plumber, Pedro the Gardener, and Susan the Home Health Aide are unlikely to keep notes, pictures, etc. of anything that might be even remotely interesting to an intelligence service.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:21am

      Re: Makes perfect sense...

      Nice stereotyping.

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        Bamboo Harvester (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:42am

        Re: Re: Makes perfect sense...

        What, that journalists, activists, and lawyers are going to be of more interest than plumbers, gardeners, and home care workers?

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:36am

      Re: Makes perfect sense...

      Pedro the Gardener

      Racist much?

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:53pm

        Re: Re: Makes perfect sense...

        That isn't racist. That is racial profiling. You can be a racial profiler and not be racist.

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          Bamboo Harvester (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 12:57pm

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          Huh. I guess racial profiling actually works.

          My plumbing contractor IS named Joe, my landscaper IS named Pedro, and Susan is a home aide who is also quite possibly THE most boring person on earth.

          I'll let all three of them know they need to change their given names.

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 2:28pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re: Makes perfect sense...

            I never said it was good to racial profile. Just that racial profiling isn't being racist. Racial profiling is about as accurate as assuming. People assume because most of the time it works. But take it with a grain of salt.

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            Uriel-238 (profile), 11 May 2019 @ 11:36am

            Joe the Plumber

            When I read it, I thought you were referring to Joe the Plumber, the alleged grassroots worker who stood for Palin and McCain. Joe the Plumber represented all the grassroots support for Palin in Real America (where real Americans and not fake Americans live).

            Also, Joe the Plumber didn't actually have a plumbing license, and was tampering with waterworks illegally. Which was discovered after his fifteen minutes of fame.

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              Bamboo Harvester (profile), 12 May 2019 @ 7:39am

              Re: Joe the Plumber

              No, referring to people I know that I doubt would have any interest to ICE/BP, especially when compared to activists, lawyers, and journalists.

              My plumber is licensed, has to be or I would be liable for his screwups on rental properties. Pedro used to be part of the weekly poker game until he realized he was VERY welcome - because he's a terrible poker player. My neighbor Susan always comes to mind whenever the word "avoid" comes up.

              FWIW, McCain was a complete loon, Palin is just a narcissist who loves camera time.

              We haven't had a good Presidential candidate from either side of the aisle for decades. Hell, I can't recall any that I'd vote for, I just vote against the one I think is the more inept crook.

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              Anonymous Coward, 12 May 2019 @ 7:56am

              Re: Joe the Plumber

              I think he was a licensed plumber but there was an issue with what he said on other grounds.

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          Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 2:20pm

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          Racial profiling is inherently racist, so no.

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 2:38pm

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            Actually you are correct and I was mistaken. But after looking up what racial profiling is, he isn't doing it either. It is only racial profiling when using race or ethnicity as grounds for suspecting someone of having committed an offense.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:16pm

        Re: Re: Makes perfect sense...

        We've had several gardeners. Every single one of them could have been named Pedro.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:37pm

      Re: Makes perfect sense...

      Funny thing ... Joe The Plumber isn't a licensed plumber.

      Who-da-thunk?

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 2:19pm

      Re: Makes perfect sense...

      It makes perfect sense, in your line of reasoning, assuming that acting outside one's mandate is reasonable, and that there is a reason to be surveiling and harassing citizens.

      It does make perfect sense, for an authoritarian police state, sure.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:17am

    It's amusing how you think I'm rooting for the activists and journalists here.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 11:23am

    Google creates a dossier on every individual in the United States, and it doesn't even have to be accurate, as they are immune under Section 230. This impacts lives far worse than anything mentioned in this article, yet people DEFEND this massive invasion of privacy that includes large-scale defamation.

    The above is an example of a logical conservative viewpoint which will be attacked with ad-hominems by liberals inflicting that "mob justice" they claim does not exist.

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      TFG, 10 May 2019 @ 12:39pm

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      The above is an example of a lack of logic and a (by now clearly willful) lack of understanding of how search engines work or the actual meaning of CDA 230. I recommend not engaging. Flag and move on.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:59pm

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        Australia and the UK understand enough about how "search engines work" to hold them accountable for the results they display.

        A woman whose ex-boyfriend called her a hooker ten years ago has to answer to that lie every time she interacts or transacts with other people. Google does in fact contain a "dossier."

        The above poster makes no argument, just asserts that it is correct and advises the reader to ignore a simple truth. Very telling.

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      Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:15pm

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      I agree that the amount of data google can get from metadata is scary but individual dossier is conspiracy theory level. I work in networks and deal with a lot of web traffic. To get the level of data you think they collect, you would have to do a "man in the middle" attack. Otherwise the closest you could come is that IP address of XX.XX.XX.XX went to maybe this website at XX.XX.XX.XX address. If the website is using HTTPS, then it may actually not be accurate as things get confusing when looking at web traffic that is secure going to a server that hosting hundred to thousands of websites. Now if the website you went to is using adsense, then potentially Google could pull up a record of past websites that the specific IP went to in the past.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 1:20pm

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        Google's tendrils are a joke compared to Facebook's. Just sayin'.

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        Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 2:45pm

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        The "dossier" consists of everything said about a person, whether or not true.

        A woman's ex-boyfriend who called her a hooker has caused that "information" to show up whenever anyone searches for her by name.

        In the copyright thread, they showed how IP addresses can't even be used to subpoena a person's identity since it doesn't prove authorship (or downloading). So if someone uses a "burner IP" to defame someone, they can't be sued, and the person they defame cannot sue Google because Google is immune under Section 230, people are literally sitting ducks for anyone who wants to ruin their reputation.

        I'm surprised lawyers don't realize how easy it would be for a disgruntled client or anyone else with an axe to grind to do this to them.

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          Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 6:08pm

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          A woman's ex-boyfriend who called her a hooker has caused that "information" to show up whenever anyone searches for her by name.

          Please oh please, show us an example of something like this happening!!!!! Please!!!!

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            Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 6:31pm

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            John could... but then he'd incriminate himself.

            The lack of his ability to cite anything concrete suggests that his experience is entirely personally anecdotal.

            He'd be, of course, more than capable of proving this statement wrong... if it was wrong.

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              Toom1275 (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 7:35pm

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              The lack of his ability to cite anything concrete suggests that his experience is entirely hallucinatory.

              FTFY, considering the routinely false claims Jhon makes about commenters on Techdirt.

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            Punisher ROG S., 12 May 2019 @ 8:57pm

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            Well.... there was that whole Kathy Sierra deal.

            Not exactly just a smear about her being a hooker, but you get the idea.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sierra

            And, last I checked, her opportunities INCREASED, not decreased after she was cyberstalked.

            ...no such thing as bad PR

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    Uriel-238 (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 11:39am

    Wow.

    This entire thread so far could be interpreted as satire of political discourse in the US.

    Maximum Poe.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 May 2019 @ 12:37pm

    The black-block activities through antifa has convinced me that Homeland Security does need to keep an eye on some activist groups.

    Specifically street violence, recent arrests over attempts to purchase unregistered weapons and use of bombs, ongoing internet campaigns to dox and libel those they disagree, and so forth. I load up live footage from events they show up at in routinely the black-block antifa types are instigating all the violence, using hate speech, destroying local business property, and on many occasions arrested for mis-identifying a person in the wrong place and wrong time then causing grievous bodily injury to them. The elderly and women as often as not, there's something especially egregious in violating social contract norms by beating those less able to defend themselves.

    So. Good job team. Activists treading on street violence and harassment campaigns justify this sort of spying and authoritarian activity. Knock it off. Keep it peaceful.

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    Uriel-238 (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 4:41pm

    Again Ferguson serves as a grisly example

    On the first day of the Ferguson unrest, the police in their camo-armor (seriously) decided to nationalize a McDonalds as a police-only zone, and then arrested and detained (for days) two news-agency reporters. They were held for days. That kinda established the police / press relationship for the whole affair.

    Law enforcement officers were having a grand old time in the hours to follow, pointing their guns as if they were facing armed opposition on a front line in a warzone, arbitrarily culling people out of the protest lines to yank out and beat the crap out of them, joyriding in their mineproof transports while rebel-yelling and randomly popping tear gas cannisters all over the neighborhoods. It was clearly not how we were taught police should conduct themselves in years of buddy-cop movies and schoolyard safety presentations.

    Around day three, they started realizing that all the press meant they were looking horrible to the entire world. After that, they started asking for press permits and (illegally) confiscating gear for those without them or with ones that weren't fancy enough. Later, press were confined to press zones so the not-military police could separate their atrocities and good times from the cameras that might report them. Press learned quickly to avoid being noticed and getting shepherded into the zones.

    We've established that our law-enforcement and incarceration institutions really don't want to be called out on the horrors they regularly inflict on their victims. A significant number of our shootings by police (now officer-involved shootings) are some police officer harrassing someone in a ghetto over a minor infraction and then suddenly fearing for his safety. The story that allegedly justifies the murder is constructed later from the confirmed facts, even if it involves moving the incident thirty meters or saying a woman handcuffed behind her back shot herself in the head.

    The police liked not having cameras everywhere, whether amature-owned or held by the press, as then they could assault, rape or shoot whoever they wanted. So their animosity for journalists is not at all surprising.

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    Uriel-238 (profile), 10 May 2019 @ 4:48pm

    FBI / DHS Groups and Sects files

    Oh yeah, press aside, the Feds and DHS now share a running database that tracks all the street-gangs and organized crime syndicates in the world, including fan-groups and followers of musicians, people who nerd-out over one sci-fi franchise or another, and new religious movements (which are cults until proven otherwise).

    This isn't really a new thing. They've hated people who gather together in groups no matter what they celebrated, and by their efforts have played a part in turning groups dangerous just by their own paranoia and intervention. What's new is now the DHS manages it and disseminates the information to all the precincts, so they know in advance that your Saturday LARP gets are really the clandestine meetings of a dangerous doomsday cult that stockpiles weapons and will go on to kidnap and sacrifice children if they are not stopped by a good SWAT raid.

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      Anonymous Coward, 12 May 2019 @ 10:55pm

      Re: FBI / DHS Groups and Sects files

      All part of a kinder gentler nation spearheaded by one who was part of the JFK assassination. And how many Americans lost their lives because Sadam threatened to kill my daddy. Its a nation with 5% of world's population and 25% of the world's incarceration. Those people who have usurped this government are some of the most vicious people on the planet. They use any of over a hundred agencies to vet their violent will against American lives. Some day they will burn in hell for it.

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      Rog S., 13 May 2019 @ 8:18am

      Re: FBI / DHS Groups and Sects files

      Uriel, this is what gang stalking IS. I write about it all the time.

      Oddly, I think you are saying what I am saying, but in a much more internet friendly way.

      Fundamentally, we agree on this.

      I urge you to explore it further, for example, how they harass,and pursue these endless suspects online and off.

      And especially note that there is a clear, distinct split between those who yammer on about gibberish, such as directed energy beams, lizzard people and aliens, versus those that they stalk online and off, who mostly plead for justice and due process, or complain about bizarre harrassment from named agencies.

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 May 2019 @ 12:08pm

    From just reading the title to this story..

    "Uh, Duhh. Because the politicians who lord over America and micromanage every mf facet of our lives are potentially the worst examples of human beings, capable of GRUESOME Violence and are paranoid as hell but would never admit that.

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    Rog S., 13 May 2019 @ 10:36am

    journalist targeted by San Fran PD for covering the mysterious death of an Asian American public defender, named Adachi.

    Go fundme:
    https://www.gofundme.com/journalist-raided-by-police-support-1st-amendment

    Its curious how the name Adachi travels, and more curious how it challenges ADL narrative exploitation.

    Ken Adachi maintained a website that reported OGS too.

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