EU Cancels 'Final' Negotiations On EU Copyright Directive As It Becomes Clear There Isn't Enough Support

from the breaking:-the-internet dept

So, this is certainly unexpected. Just hours after we pointed out that even all of the lobbyists who had written/pushed for Article 13 in the EU Copyright Directive were now abandoning their support for it (basically because the EU was considering making it just slightly less awful), it appears that Monday's negotiations have been called off entirely:

Apparently multiple countries -- including Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Poland -- made it clear they would not support the latest text put forth by Romania, and therefore would have blocked it from moving forward. Monday's negotiations were supposed to have been the "final" negotiations (after the previous "final" negotiations that didn't accomplish much) around a "compromise" bill that then would have gone out to be voted on by the EU Council, the EU Committee and the EU Parliament in the next few months. However, with the news of all those countries (via the EU Council) deciding to vote against the proposal, it effectively blocks it for now.

MEP Julia Reda now has the full breakdown of the votes, noting that 11 countries voted against the "compromise" text: Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland, Slovenia, Italy, Poland, Sweden, Croatia, Luxembourg and Portugal. That's... a pretty big list. Reda points out that most of those countries were concerned about the impact on users' rights (Portugal and Croatia appear to be outliers). That's pretty big -- as it means that any new text (if there is one) should move in a better direction, not worse.

As Reda notes, this does not mean that the Copyright Directive or Article 13 are dead. They could certainly be revived with new negotiations (and that could happen soon). But, it certainly makes the path forward a lot more difficult. Throughout all of this, as we've seen in the past, the legacy copyright players plowed forward, accepting no compromise and basically going for broke as fast as they could, in the hopes that no one would stop them. They've hit something of a stumbling block here. It won't stop them from still trying, but for now this is good news. The next step is making sure Article 13 is truly dead and cannot come back. The EU has done a big thing badly in even letting things get this far. Now let's hope they fix this mess by dumping Articles 11 and 13.

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    Wendy Cockcroft (profile), 22 Jan 2019 @ 6:10am

    Re: The facts are clear, the FUD is not

    The simple fact is that the baby years of the ~internet~ copyright maximalist regime are well past over and it's time you children grew up.

    There are hundreds of piracy "blogs", where the blogger ~uploads copyrighted material~ posts utter bullcrap about copyright serving as a life insurance, life assurance, trust fund, and ever-flowing fountain of money... or would if it wasn't for those pesky kids. Ruh-roh! ~to third party services (fileshares).~ For the perusal of their fellow echo chamber members. Under current laws this is completely legal and you cannot even get the webhost to take the site down, all you can do is ~request that the fileshares take down the copyrighted material~ take the everlasting mickey out of maximalists on those websites that permit it.

    NOTE: You can't even do that now... thanks to childish tantrum throwing only actual Copyright HOLDERS can go after copyrighted material and report it *and the buggers insist on making me prove I am the actual copyright owner, not a nefarious toerag trying to suppress comments that paint me in a negative light. Victory for the Pirates (Ahem, the buisness model of hosting largely stolen content in a bag marked "SWAG" and putting ads in it where they can't be seen.)

    In real life, this is akin to starting up a Business called "Stolen Cars R Us", claiming that only the original car owners can request their car be returned and saying "absolutely nothing illegal is going on here because everything illegal is happening somewhere else" Which is the neatest wheeze I ever heard of. Where can I get free cars by announcing that they're mine without having to prove it?

    Only an absolute retard (meaning 99.9% of all netizens) would actually argue this FUD claiming that writing laws so that other preexisting laws can actually be enforced is a bad thing. Assuming there are laws floating about in which people who don't own stuff can claim ownership over them.

    All the players are bad faith players, Google, Jimbo, DotCom, they KNOW they're in violation and that is why they're fighting hard with absurd FUD. (Fluttering under doors? Flippin' unbelieveable dorks? Frying ulcerated doody? That's about as absurd as I get, people.).*

    First thing YouTube would have to do is bring back the ability to report copyrighted content as a normal user since nobody would every report someone else's video out of malice or for lulz. OBVIOUSLY, they can easily crowd source rabid penguins and have a video be held in Guantanamo Bay until verified by the crowd that totally wouldn't emanate from 4Chan or one of the darker corners of the internet it isn't copyrighted, punishing those who elect to vote "yet this is valid" to the third and fourth generation or 170 years, whichever is longer when it isn't and reward those who vote correctly (A few dollars here, a few dollars there, a few dollars more, dinner with Clint Eastwood with harsher monetary penalties than rewards but one find day in the middle of the night you'll find plenty of people who will farm money on youtube since it actually does grow on trees.).

    The whole point of this is to stop bad faith actors by enabling the hell out of them (and Google is definitely a bad faith actor because it's the only search engine this AC knows of) who do everything in their power to do absolutely nothing working the whole day through, trying to find lots of things not to do and ignore the problem until they get legal action being pushed against them in the creepiest way possible by a leering pervert.

    It's time to grow up and take your spanking terms and conditions apply. Yogurt*


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