Dear HBO: Just Shut The Fuck Up About Trump's 'Game Of Thrones' Meme, Please

from the stupid-is-coming dept

There has been a drumbeat punctuating the past decade or so that goes something like: everything is political. It’s not really true, of course, but that mantra is used by those who want to inject politics into everything as an excuse for doing so. That makes the world a much more tiresome place to exist. Unfortunately, it seems both that politics really does infect aspects of our lives it should not, as does intellectual property bullshit.

Which brings us to Donald Trump and his fairly lame Game of Thrones meme he tweeted out, apparently as a warning shot of TBA foreign policy towards Iran.

Herr Trump tweeted this out on November 2nd and did indeed follow up with new sanctions on Iran on the fifth. The analogy, of course, doesn’t really work, since the “winter” from GoT refers to the whitewalker zombies and the whole phrase is a warning about what this evil army will do when they arrive, rather than being some kind of call to arms against an evil army… but I digress. Whatever you think of the meme or Iran sanctions generally, there was very little offense to find in any of this.

But there was a great deal of fun to be had by the internet in response.

Folks began responding with memes of their own—”Indictments Are Coming” etc.—and even the show’s cast got involved. Sophie Turner, who plays Sansa Stark, replied“Ew,” and Maisie Williams (Arya Stark), in perhaps the best Twitter drag of the day, retweeted the president and just added “Not today.” (“Not today,” for those who don’t remember, is what Arya Stark’s swordfighting instructor, Syrio Forel, told her is what she should say to the god of death.)

Pretty standard fare in our Twitter politpocaplyse through which we are all living. And, again, judging by other news cycles we’re forced to endure on what feels like a weekly basis, this is pretty tame and non-offensive.

Which is what makes it strange that HBO decided to pretend there was a trademark issue in any of this.

Despite being a fan of the show, I don’t know the answer to this question. Which doesn’t really matter, because it’s an irrelevant question to begin with. Nothing about Trump’s tweet and meme is in any way trademark misappropriation or infringement. There is no public confusion. No common marketplace. This is purely fair use. And HBO should know as much, so litigious and bullying have they been in the past — both generally and specifically when it comes to Game of Thrones.

So, HBO… just don’t. It already seems like politics invades everything, and intellectual property invades everything. Combining the two? That’s way worse than any army of whitewalkers.

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Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

A Fish Stinks from the Head First

One must wonder if it is actually HBO or their new corporate masters trying to play the game without thrones. To think that every line from Game of Thrones is trademarked is so delusional that one might beleive that it is someone from AT&T is the one doing the thinking.

Warner Media (the entity that controls HBO and that is owned by AT&T) probably has people who are familiar with how show scripts work and therefore know better than to assume trademark where copyright is the actual answer, so moving up the ladder toward the unknowing brass sitting in the throne room at AT&T seems like a good probability.

Anonymous Coward says:

Pot meet kettle

“There has been a drumbeat punctuating the past decade or so that goes something like: everything is political. It’s not really true, of course, but that mantra is used by those who want to inject politics into everything as an excuse for doing so. That makes the world a much more tiresome place to exist.”

Everything is political, no exception. Never has been any other way… from the words you speak to the food you eat someone is looking to control it for power or wealth.

Anything can be made political at any time someone decides to make it political. The problem is more with your type… that can’t let it go!

Try getting over yourself… the world did not end when Obama was elected and it did not end when Trump was elected. It will not end when the next dirt bags is elected or gains power. There is an endless cycle of morons fighting morons and the morons bitching about it all!

ryuugami says:

The analogy, of course, doesn’t really work, since the "winter" from GoT refers to the whitewalker zombies and the whole phrase is a warning about what this evil army will do when they arrive, rather than being some kind of call to arms against an evil army…

On the other hand, there’s a whitewalker zombie in the image. See, it actually does work, but in a different way 😀

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: How do you say trademark misuse in Dothraki?

isn’t it possible that in this case someone at HBO was simply trying to make a joke?

I hope so too, but it’s a joke that shows a total lack of understanding of the Dothraki. They’re warriors, not lawyers. Were they familiar with the concept of a "trademark" at all—remember that the show has a medieval setting, and the proto-trademark laws of that time didn’t cover off-the-cuff remarks—they’d be using a loanword for it, only in reference to foreign cultures. So, the spoken Dothraki word would be "trademark", and there’d be no written form because they don’t write.

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Winter Is Coming

While kings clash and play their games of thrones, no one is paying attention as the Long Summer ends and a winter comes in earnest, farms freeze and people die.

While administrations clash and play games of politics and populism, no one pays attention as the climate changes, fires break out, hurricaines and typhoons hammer the coasts and droughts dry up the farmlands.

And people die.

It seemed like an obvious allegory.

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Re: Re: Life imitating art.

Maybe. The notion that Westros went through long winters seemed to conflict with the degree of settlement and establishment of the Seven Kingdoms. If they’re used to winters that were six, seven years long, they might still be migratory, packing everything up and moving south for a few years until it gets warm again.

On Earth, we’ve occasionally had runs of bad winters thanks to a volcanic eruption half-way across the world. Usually the result was a bad famine that would wipe out half the population and inspire long-winded depressing fiction.

Thad (profile) says:

…has anyone from HBO actually said anything on this subject in the past five days?

Because it kinda seems like they already shut up about it.

(And it bears noting that HBO is not a guy. The person writing the tweets has presumably not gone to law school. Yes, it was a dumb, ignorant joke by someone whose job it is to speak on behalf of the entire organization — but I’m not sure how much it really matters in the scheme of things.)

Anonymous Coward says:

Winter is coming…

referring to the chill put on the press by Trump.

Yeah; someone wrote on the 2nd about the HBO thing, and my immediate thought was: Er, I don’t think it can be trademark misuse when Trump isn’t using it for trade….

They would have done better with patent “look and feel” or copyright abuse. Still would have been “ew” but not as off-target as bringing trademarks into bad politics.

FZ Hunter says:

Re: Re: What do "Krolis", "Narcissus", and "Dark Helmet"...

What do "Krolis", "Narcissus", and "Dark Helmet"…

… have in common?

Well, the first two have sparse comment history with LONG gaps:

Krolis: 7 comments (1 per year!), 12 mo gap to here; 44 month gap after first Mar 28th, 2013

https://www.techdirt.com/user/krolis

Narcissus: 119 comments (14 avg per year but speedup in 2017 from 10) 3 year gap 8 Dec 2015 to 13 Nov 2012; 29 Mar 2011

https://www.techdirt.com/user/narcissus

So TWO ODD long-gap accounts on Timmy’s page here. I’ve noted these "coincidences" as go along, isn’t the first time. I conclude that here Timmy is replying to himself.

Of course, I can’t prove any other linkage with necessarily limited number of examples, but by same token when have such rare event as TWO clearly odd accounts pop out, that’s interesting in itself.

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: What do "Krolis", "Narcissus", and "Dark Helmet"...

Would you like to place a wager as to whether or not I’m commenting under any name than Dark Helmet? I’d literally be up for ANY amount of money you choose and would happily allow whatever transparency is required to prove this, if you’d like to put some money on the line?

bikey says:

politics

As a long-time professor of the politics of intellectual property at SUNY and other universities, I can tell you there’s politics a-plenty here. The entire existence of IP is politics, particularly over the last 30 years (TRIPS? Doha Declaration? Section 301 sanctions? Access to Medicine? Biopiracy?). Mike, this is way below your pay grade but I’m a fan anyway.

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