Finally, RIAA Front Group Admits That Forcing YouTube To Police Site Doesn't Work Well

from the wasn't-expecting-that dept

Here's one I certainly didn't expect. A group known for spreading a bunch of bogus RIAA talking points about the evils of YouTube seems to be admitting two odd things: (1) that it's impossible to expect YouTube to accurately police all the content on its site and (2) that sharing entire published news articles is clearly not copyright infringement. The group in question is the "Content Creators Coalition" -- last seen around these parts whining about the DMCA's safe harbors on a site that only exists because of them. And it seems that bizarre and self-contradictory publicity stunts are basically the norm for this group. They've specifically been whining about how one of their videos got taken down on YouTube over an apparent terms of service violation. They complained, and YouTube reviewed it, and put the video back up. But, the Content Creators Coalition is using this to argue... something about how YouTube is trying to censor criticism?

It really doesn't make much sense, because it actually seems to be a pretty blatant admission by the Content Creators Coalition that their other bugaboo -- about how YouTube doesn't take down infringing content fast enough -- is completely silly as well. Proactively policing the millions upon millions of videos uploaded to the site (for free, mind you) is nearly impossible to do correctly. The article itself (published by the Google-hating News Corp.-owned NY Post) tries to attack YouTube's moderation features, but actually makes the perfect argument for why it's silly to expect an open platform like YouTube to police everything:

While videos of ISIS beheadings somehow slipped past YouTube censors, the video streaming site didn’t have any problems finding a playful ad campaign by some indie musicians — and promptly pulling the plug on it.

Right. Which is why it's great that we can now add the Content Creators Coalition to those who think that forcing YouTube to police and filter content on its platform is silly and will lead to unnecessary and misguided takedowns. Glad to have them on board.

Now, the only reason I even know about this article is that it was sent to me by Eric Jotkoff at Law Media Group. If you don't remember Law Media Group, they're the secretive lobbying PR shop that seems to specialize in attacking Google with really sketchy practices, such as insisting that corn farmers will be hurt by Google partnering with Yahoo, or by publishing faked op-eds, such as one about how awful net neutrality was -- but "written" by a guy who actually was in favor of net neutrality.

And when I say that Jotkoff and Law Media Group sent me that NY Post article, I do mean sent it to me. He sent me the entire article in an email. So that appears to be Law Media Group, on behalf of the Content Creators Coalition, admitting that sending around entire news articles is not infringing. Now, I'd argue that there's a good fair use case to be made for sharing full articles via email in such situations. But I wouldn't really expect a group like Law Media Group, which regularly sends me emails about the importance of stronger copyright on behalf of a whole bunch of groups that all seem to parrot the RIAA's talking points (coincidence, I'm sure?), to basically admit that reposting full articles from companies like News Corp. is fair use.

I've asked Eric to confirm that this is the official stance of the organization, but, perhaps not too surprisingly, I have not heard back at the time of publication.

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Filed Under: content moderation, fair use, filters, full articles, moderation, takedowns
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    orbitalinsertion (profile), 31 Oct 2017 @ 5:39pm

    Re:

    That could be taken as an argumentum ad hominem, only guess where the article was published, and for which audience it was written? (Hint: Its and audience with a large prior understanding and consensus opinion about things like the RIAA.) It's not about being tainted, it's just that if you are agreeing with the RIAA, many (most?) here will disagree with you on that same point. Why would it matter who is making the point? Bad claims and ideas are bad whether it is the RIAA or anyone else promoting them.

    But i find it odd that you didn't make any claims of a bad argument due to guilt by association insinuations with respect to the law firm and the newspaper.

    I can't prove that CCC is literally a front group for the RIAA, but they certainly complain about everyone with respect to getting paid except the recording industry itself which literally cheats them. Or seeing how many of the members of whom we hear are bigger names, maybe they don't care to notice the great masses of signed artists who never get paid squat because they only pay the big acts. I'm sorry but some guy using a clip of your music, or even YouTube itself, or radio stations, are not making the money that the recording industry and it's useless royalty services and lobbying groups make off of artists. Maybe if they got paid reasonably by these groups which exist solely to leech off artists, they would have less to complain about. Then they might have a case v Google and other entrenched legacy industry wannabes. But blame them for their actual wrongs and failings, not made-up crap.


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