Olive Garden Asks Olive Garden Reviewer Not To Refer To Olive Garden Due To Trademarks

from the penne-for-your-thoughts? dept

At some point, even the dimmest of lawyers will understand that parody and fair use are not infringement. There may be all sorts of reasons why big companies send dubious cease-and-desist letters over protected speech. Sometimes it's because lawyers are misinformed. Sometimes it's to silence criticism.

But in an odd and all around hilarious exchange between the company that owns the Olive Garden chain of restaurants and the owner of a website that reviews Olive Garden dishes, I can't think of a single reason why a sane lawyer would want to fire off the following letter to allofgarden.com.

To Whom It May Concern:

As you are likely aware, Darden is a full-service restaurant company, and owns and operates over 1,500 restaurants through subsidiaries under the Olive Garden®, LongHorn Steakhouse®, The Capital Grille®, Yard House®, Seasons 52®, Bahama Breeze®, and Eddie V's Prime Seafood® brands and has a portfolio of over 650 trademarks in over 70 countries related to the same (collectively "Trademarks”.)

In connection with Darden Corporation’s proprietary rights over its famous trademark(s) we are notifying you of the following:

Darden Corporation has recently learned that the trademark Olive Garden appears as a metatag, keyword, visible or hidden text on the web site(s) located at the below listed URL(s) without having obtained prior written authorization from Darden Corporation. This practice infringes upon the exclusive intellectual property rights of Darden Corporation.

http://allofgarden.com/

As a trademark owner, Darden Corporation is obligated to enforce its rights by taking action to ensure that others do not use its trademarks without permission. Unauthorized use of the trademark(s) could create a likelihood of confusion with Darden Corporation’s trademark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site(s), online location(s), products or services.

In light of the above, we request that you respond to this e-mail within ten (10) days, informing us that you have removed all metatags, keywords, visible or hidden texts including trademark(s) presently appearing on the above-cited website(s) and any other website(s), or draw this issue to the attention of the appropriate person(s).

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.

Sincerely,

Darden Corporation
brandenforcements@mm-darden.com

There's much to unpack there. First, claiming trademark infringement for use of marks in metatags and simple text within a website is a highly dubious practice. But when even the most cursory glance at allofgarden.com makes it clear that it's a site dedicated to reviewing Olive Garden, it should be immediately obvious that even the most direct reference to the chain would be squarely covered by fair use. Even the name of the site, something of a homophone of the Olive Garden name, would be covered as parody, if not as part of the site's status as a review site. Even more strangely, it's not as though this is one of those so-called "sucks sites" dedicated to simply slamming Olive Garden at every turn. Some reviews, such as this one, are purely positive, devoid of snark at all.

But if Malone is a talented reviewer of chain-based "Italian" food, he's a savant in responding to frivolous legal threats, as he has happily posted his response on his website for all to see.

Mr. Forcements -- may I call you Branden? Since this an asynchronous mode of communication, I'm going to assume you are magnanimously acquiescing, and I will refer to you as Branden forthwith -- I received your email yesterday.

I am not aware of any law against reviewing food and describing it using the name of the company from which it was procured. Some might even call it Nominative Fair Use. I have helpfully included a link to Wikipedia™, The Free Encyclopedia™, for more information on this concept, in case you are new. Just click on the blue words to access the HyperLink™, and you will be transported there in great haste.

With that in mind, can you be more specific about what you would like me to do? If you want me to remove references to the Olive Garden from my blog, which, I remind you, solely consists of references to Olive Garden, I'm afraid I must decline.

If you are asking me to simply add TradeMark® Symbols™ I must also decline, as I do not know the alt keycode for writing them.

Perhaps you are asking me to take down my blog entirely. In doing so, Darden Corporation would commit its largest crime against humanity since they started charging extra for toppings. Seriously, $2.99 for two lousy meatballs? And you're saying I ripped you off?

Please respond within nine (9) days, in limerick form.

Wishing the whole Forcements family a pleasant day,

Vincent "Vino" Malone
Olive Garden Connoisseur
Age 29 and a Half

Every part of this response is pure gold, from the intentional misreading of the emailer's name to the refusal to comply with every request and link with the reasons why. Malone is being a pleasant pain in the ass in this response, yes, but it's funny. It's also now public, thanks to Malone's posting of it. And, most importantly, the request from Olive Garden is a silly one when viewed with an eye towards the law.

Still, I have to admit I'm slightly hoping that Branden Forcements replies in limerick form as requested, just to see what they come up with. If Olive Garden wants to get on the right side of this thing quickly, that limerick will be in the form of an apology.


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  1. icon
    Doug (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 10:47am

    Limericks!

    Oh Vino, don't know what came over me
    I wrote with such haste I just couldn't see
    That to eat at our joint
    Is kind of the point
    Of your whole blog and your joie de vivre

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  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:00am

    I have to admit that made me laugh!

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  3. icon
    Stephen T. Stone (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:01am

    If you are asking me to simply add TradeMark® Symbols™ I must also decline, as I do not know the alt keycode for writing them.

    This is just the best.

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  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:10am

    > Wishing the whole Forcements family a pleasant day

    That's gold! I'd love to share a glass of wine and some endless breadsticks with this guy.

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  5. icon
    ThatFatMan (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:14am

    Re:

    I'm with you, and I think the best part is the use of the ™ symbols two paragraphs before this line shows up for Wikipedia™, the Free Encyclopedia™ and HyperLink™

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  6. identicon
    A Non-Mouse, 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:18am

    More Limericks!

    There once was a man Branden Forcements
    who confused some reviews for endorsements
    His threats that came after
    caused so much laughter
    that perhaps he should seek new employments

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  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:38am

    i'm so thankful for trademarks and their associated abuse.

    lordy, sometimes i need a laugh.

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  8. icon
    TechDescartes (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:44am

    Olaf Guardin'

    Isn't that a Viking-themed FPS (first-person server) where you guard a small house armed with unlimited breadsticks and extra grated cheese, while taking money from peasants held in small booths?

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  9. icon
    radix (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:48am

    That was definitely written by a robot.

    Mybe not by a literal robot, but at least a figurative one.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  10. icon
    Stephen T. Stone (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 11:49am

    Re: Olaf Guardin'

    Huh, sounds like the White House Press Corps briefings these days.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 12:19pm

    Request Satisfied

    "...draw this issue to the attention of the appropriate person(s)."

    The entire Interwebz is now attentive to your lol-worthy stupidity, brandenforcements@mm-darden.com of Darden Corporation. Haz you yet more Entertainment™ to offer?

    Yours Truly,
    The Internet

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  12. icon
    trixtag (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 12:27pm

    Someone should buy the olivegardenTM.com URL since they have not trademarked their name.

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  13. icon
    Dan Audy (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 12:34pm

    Re: Re: Olaf Guardin'

    The breadsticks are strictly limited and while the servers also provide something that is tasteless and bizarre the ones at the White House don't have a dress code.

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  14. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 1:27pm

    Re: More Limericks!

    And I think we have a contender for the funniest comment of the week.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  15. identicon
    peter, 21 Jul 2017 @ 1:30pm

    Close, so very close

    There once was a girl with a garden
    Who set forth seeking a pardon
    But Olive cried out in vain
    to the knave who took her name
    'cos olive was a fuckwit called brandon.

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  16. identicon
    peter, 21 Jul 2017 @ 1:32pm

    Got it

    There once was a girl with a garden
    Who set forth seeking a pardon
    But Olive cried out in vain
    to the knave who took her name
    'cos olive was a fuckwit called Darden

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  17. identicon
    steve, 21 Jul 2017 @ 1:44pm

    No Mike, it's not fair use! Fair use is a defence in copyright infringement. It has no applicability with trademarks.

    What the corporate lawyer is missing in this case is something even more basic, that everyone is allowed to use trademarks freely when *referring to what the trademark identifies*.

    The principle here is more like, trademarking a term does not entitle the owner to prevent anyone from using it unless they're identifying some other product or service (in same or similar category).

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  18. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 2:20pm

    Re:

    Nooooooooope.

    Here's some information on fair use in trademark law....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_(U.S._trademark_law)

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  19. icon
    Toom1275 (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 2:54pm

    If you're desperate for more Olive Garden-related limericks than what's already here, there's some good ones buried in the comments of Ars's article

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  20. icon
    Mike Masnick (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 3:16pm

    Re:

    No Mike

    I didn't write this.

    it's not fair use! Fair use is a defence in copyright infringement. It has no applicability with trademarks.

    Nominitive fair use is a concept in trademark law. You should look it up.

    What the corporate lawyer is missing in this case is something even more basic, that everyone is allowed to use trademarks freely when referring to what the trademark identifies.

    You know what the legal term is for "everyone is allowed to use trademarks freely when referring to what the trademark idenetifies"? It's... (drumroll)... "nominitive fair use."

    Which technically means "this is allowed because I'm just naming the thing" -- which is the same thing you were saying.

    It's shorter than your version too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use

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  21. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 3:18pm

    Trademark Fair Use [was Re: ]

    No Mike, it's not fair use! Fair use is a defence in copyright infringement. It has no applicability with trademarks.

    International Trademark Association (INTA) Fact Sheet—

    Fair Use of Trademarks (Intended for a non-legal audience) (updated January, 2016):

    1. What is fair use?

     . . . In some circumstances, however, someone may use another party’s trademark if the use is considered a “fair use.” This “fair use” exception is recognized throughout most of the world.

    2. What are the types of fair use?

    In general, there are two types of fair use: descriptive fair use and nominative fair use. . . .

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  22. icon
    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 5:48pm

    Lets take the movie The Purge & apply it to those who have JD's. We have way to many of them shuffling paper to stay employed & launching stupid shit.

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  23. identicon
    noreply@OliveGarden.con, 21 Jul 2017 @ 7:01pm

    Streisand Streisand Streisand,
    Streisand Streisand Streisand,
    Streisand, Streisand,
    Streisand, Streisand,
    Streisand Streisand Streisand!

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  24. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 7:04pm

    Re:

    Streisand Streisand Streisand

    Needs more cowbell.

     

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  25. identicon
    noreply@OliveGarden.con, 21 Jul 2017 @ 7:19pm

    Re: Re: more cowbell

    I beg your pardon,
    I Streisanded an Olive Garden.
    Moo

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  26. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Jul 2017 @ 9:41pm

    This is boilerplate text from that enforcement agency.

    You see that "mm" in the email address? That means MarkMonitor. Yes, the same MarkMonitor that sent a cease and desist to a thousand year old village for daring to use a name before a hotel chain that MM represents (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150504/07402630883/1000-year-old-village-told-to-stop-using-nam e-because-trademark-claim-hotel-chain-founded-there.shtml)

    But hey, it's not like MM has to worry about any repercussions for sending bogus takedown notices...

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  27. icon
    Toom1275 (profile), 21 Jul 2017 @ 10:01pm

    Re:

    So you're saying that Branden Forcements is really an alias used by Mark Monitor?

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  28. icon
    Madd the Sane (profile), 22 Jul 2017 @ 10:40am

    Re:

    But hey, it's not like MM has to worry about any repercussions for sending bogus takedown notices...

    Just the ridicule that comes from doing something utterly stupid.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  29. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 22 Jul 2017 @ 2:21pm

    Re: Re:

    Ridicule only works as a deterrent if it affects profits and/or the recipient of it is capable of feeling shame. The latter is clearly not the case, and the former likewise doesn't seem to be true.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  30. icon
    techturf (profile), 22 Jul 2017 @ 8:28pm

    I had no idea why all these restaurants were mediocre

    > Olive Garden®, LongHorn Steakhouse®, The Capital Grille®, Yard House®, Seasons 52®, Bahama Breeze®, and Eddie V's Prime Seafood®

    I had no clue all these other restaurants were associated. Why would they want to tarnish their image by listing them in the same place as Olive Garden?

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  31. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Jul 2017 @ 9:02pm

    Re: Re:

    They can be ridiculed all you like... but they're still getting paid. The only way their behavior is going to change is if it makes them lose money to keep doing what they're doing.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  32. identicon
    Peter, 23 Jul 2017 @ 3:41am

    Re:

    Nominative Fair Use was explained in the letter, with a super helpful Wiki link where the first sentence explains its use in Trade marks.

    It was actually IN THE LETTER!

    I am starting to think making commentators answer questions to prove they have read the article before posting is a super good idea.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  33. icon
    Bergman (profile), 23 Jul 2017 @ 6:42pm

    Re:

    You know you're doing something wrong when you fail a Turing test as a real person.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  34. icon
    Eldakka (profile), 23 Jul 2017 @ 8:01pm

    Re: Re:

    with a super helpful Wiki link

    Do you mean a HyperLink™ to a article on Wikipedia™, The Free Encyclopedia™, about it?

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  35. icon
    orbitalinsertion (profile), 23 Jul 2017 @ 8:38pm

    Re: Re: Re: more cowbell

    OliveGardenCon? You are soooo sued.

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  36. identicon
    Cowardly Lion, 23 Jul 2017 @ 10:52pm

    Who?

    "As you are likely aware, Darden is a full-service restaurant company, and owns..."

    Actually no - I for one have never heard of you.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  37. icon
    PaulT (profile), 24 Jul 2017 @ 12:03am

    Re:

    "No Mike"

    "by Timothy Geigner"

    You know, even if you were correct about the rest of your assumptions - and you're not - you don't get to claim superior knowledge when you directly attack someone who didn't write the article you're responding to. If you can't get a fact correct that's stated in bold type at the top of this page, why should anyone believe any other "fact" you claim?

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  38. icon
    John85851 (profile), 24 Jul 2017 @ 11:05am

    File a counter-suit

    I wish some enterprising lawyer would take up this case and counter-sue:
    1) No, Darden doesn't have to "enforce" its trademark to keep it. The counter-suit should go after the lawyers that told the executives that this was true OR go after the lawyers who send robo-letters.

    2) Even if this was true, who in the world thinks it's a good idea to file a takedown notice against a review site... and a review site with good reviews?
    What would happen if he took his site down and replaced it with "Olive Garden sucks" instead of the good reviews?

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  39. identicon
    Thad, 25 Jul 2017 @ 4:29pm

    Re: File a counter-suit

    You can't countersue if you haven't been sued.

    A C&D is not a lawsuit, no matter how dumb it is.

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jul 2017 @ 8:39am

    Followup: Resolution Reached

    News today via Cyrus Farivar at Ars Technica, “Olive Garden apologizes to AllOfGarden blog, offers $50 gift card” (Wednesday, July 26, 2017):

    "We've reached resolution / I received absolution"

    The man behind the AllOfGarden.com blog wrote Tuesday that he has been granted a "total pardon"—as he described it in a four-stanza limerick. . . .

    reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]


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