Cop Objects To Editorial About Community Policing, Sets Fire To 20-Year Career In Response

from the Facebroke dept

There's nothing quite like watching a professional with twenty years of experience burn it all to the ground in the space of a few hours. Officer Daniel Wolff of the Detroit PD -- spending some time at home recovering from a work-related injury -- took issue with Motor City Muckraker's story highlighting the number of police officers who don't live in the communities they serve.

He handled it badly. Here's Muckraker's Steve Neavling's coverage of the Facebook meltdown in which the journalist was personally attacked by the off-duty officer.

A Detroit cop on Tuesday called city residents “garbage” and bragged that he used to “hit them with “handcuffs in the head” and “smack” children in the face.

Officer Daniel Wolff was responding on Facebook to a Motor City Muckraker story about an increasing number of Detroit police choosing to live outside the city.

Wolff, who works in the second precinct and lives in the suburbs, said he would never live in the city he serves because it is “just a nasty place.”

“Getting rid of residency was the best thing that ever happened to the Detroit Police!!!!! We have to police the garbage but you can’t make us live in the garbage.”

Not only did Officer Wolff have a problem with being expected to "live in the garbage," but he felt the last few decades of technological advancement had made it much more difficult to police the streets the way Wolff would prefer to.

Wolff bemoaned cell phone cameras, saying, “You can’t walk up to a kid or asshole and smack him in the face like we did.”

And he had a few words for Neavling as well, when informed the Facebook conversation was being reported to his department. It involved Wolff's apparent desire to commit (career) suicide by cop, with the twist being that he was both ends of the equation.

When I told him that Internal Affairs was investigating, Wolff responded, “Please do. I’ve been trying to get fired for years you cunt. Help me you ass.”

Consider Wolff helped.

The department received Wolff's alleged comments from the Muckraker the day they were posted, according to Director Michael Woody of the public information office.

"We have forwarded them to our internal affairs for a full investigation," Woody said. "This is not representative of the vast majority of our officers in this department, who work hard every day to build relationships with members of our community."

Officer Wolff was apparently very thorough in his Facebook slating of the general public. According to Detroit Police Chief James Craig, there were several other allegedly "sexist" and "racist" comments delivered by the cop before he decided to memory hole his Facebook page.

[W]e’re going to move forward with the investigation and we should be at a finding fairly quickly," [Craig] said. "If this individual feels that strongly about working in the City of Detroit and has that type of attitude, we certainly don’t want him here."

Well, that would appear to align with Wolff's stated desire to be fired. With twenty years on the force, Wolff likely has a pension locked up and would probably be given the option to resign, which means taxpayers will continue paying a former public servant that has zero respect for them for the next several years.

As for the article that started it all, it simply makes the same point that could be made in nearly any major city: it's tougher to build relationships with the communities you serve while living as far away as you can from them. It's a problem everywhere and frankly, there's not much to be done about it. Coaxing, pleading, offering housing, etc. are about the limit of what city governments can do to help close this gap between the police and the policed. Anything else places tremendous restrictions on officers' freedoms. True, communities may be better served by officers with closer ties to the people they police, but mandating this would create larger rifts by adding a whole bunch of resentment and anger to the mix. In other words, the public would get Officer Wolff, who somehow maintains this level of anger and resentment despite living miles away from the neighborhood he works in.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 3:32pm

    It's actually a two-way problem: if you limit officers to people who live or have family in the area they police, then there's potential for corruption. If you limit officers to people from outside the area, there's potential for dehumanization.

    One solution is to hire externally, with the understanding that when hired, they would be expected to live in (potentially city owned or subsidized) housing within the city.

    This works better when dealing with larger policing organizations, where officers can be rotated between locations on a regular basis. Definitely a challenge for city policing.

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      Jon Renaut (profile), 12 Jan 2017 @ 5:12pm

      Re:

      Another thing to think about is good cops with good intentions who have valid reasons to live elsewhere. I know a cop who lived in the city where she worked. She chose to move to a nearby suburb not because of contempt for those in the district where she worked, but because it was increasingly problematic for her to run into people she had arrested when she was off duty.

      In no way do I mean to justify what this cop did - it sounds like a bad cop is getting what he deserves. But forcing cops to live where they work has consequences that we can't ignore.

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:03pm

    Even more interesting would be seeing him go to arbitration to get reinstated if they remove him.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:57pm

      Re:

      Well, it looks like it's a case of him trying to retire due to stress and being ignored, so deciding to go out with a bang instead so that they have to fire him.

      Who knows whether he was trolling on FB or it was based on actual experiences? Neither looks very good for his superiors....

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    sean, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:08pm

    Cop probably suffering from PTSD

    I've examined the comments of the cop. He appears to have had a meltdown. Everything he is quoted as saying in the article is a typical PTSD symptom. Fatalistic. Suicidal. Overwhelmed by negativity. Social filters gone. Speech filters non-existent. Cynical and depressed. Has this guy even been diagnosed? I'm guessing he doesn't even know he has PTSD. Sad that he's being handled so badly. But our government is to asinine it punishes people like this instead of treating them which makes them worse and then they punish them more. It's inhuman to subject a cop to 20 years of intensely cruel people every day in, arguably, the worst city in the US, and then punish them when they develop stress induced neurological problems. GET HELP FOR THESE PEOPLE.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:19pm

      Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      Yeah, what the hell people? Can't a cop brag about smacking kids around in peace, without people getting all uppity about it?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:41pm

      Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      Yes, get help for the people who regularly ignore obvious signs of other human injury so they can harass people under arrest further.

      Do citizens get to claim PTSD when harangued by policemen?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 7:07pm

      Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      PTSD? Is it really all that stressful being a privileged special snowflake? Maybe it's just a variant of affluenza.

      It's inhuman to subject a cop to 20 years of intensely cruel people

      It's inhuman to subject a people to 20 years of intensely cruel cops.

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 13 Jan 2017 @ 5:19am

        Re: Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

        Not that I'm defending bad cops - they need the boot - but a citizen can go days, weeks, months, years without ever interacting with a cop - bad or otherwise. A cop will rarely go more than a few hours before they have to deal with a shithead.

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        Christopher (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 5:49am

        Re: Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

        Prove it or STFU. PTSD is a real thing, police brutality is a real thing, but each is individual, not systemic. And no, police brutality is not systemic, despite what the anti-cop authors say.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 13 Jan 2017 @ 1:27pm

          Re: Re: Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

          > Prove it or STFU

          Typical cop sucker.

          Chicago police officers have pattern of using excessive force, scathing Justice Dept. report says. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/13/justice-dept-to-announce-results-of-in vestigation-into-chicago-police/.

          Now, why don't YOU go STFU?

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          That One Guy (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 1:28pm

          'A few bad apples spoil the barrel' isn't an excuse, it's a warning

          It doesn't need to be systemic to be a problem, it just needs to be ignored. Get a large enough collection of people and it's all but guaranteed that a few 'bad' ones will slip through the cracks, pretty much anyone should understand that.

          One or two 'bad apples' out of a hundred isn't that big of a problem so long as they are removed promptly, but when that not only doesn't happen but the other 'apples' fight to keep them, to insist that they're not really that bad and in fact what they did should be completely acceptable, that is a problem.

          When that happens the 'apples' don't really have any ground to object when they all get put under the label of 'bad apple', because from the outside, with the many defending the actions of the few, they all have the appearance of agreeing with those actions, even if they themselves don't engage in them.

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            Whutevah, 14 Jan 2017 @ 12:24pm

            Re: 'A few bad apples spoil the barrel' isn't an excuse, it's a warning

            Not an excuse, but a warning? Oh, sure. I've also heard that Orwells' "1984" was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual. I don't believe that one either.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 13 Jan 2017 @ 6:04am

      Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      It's inhuman to subject a cop to 20 years of intensely cruel people every day in, arguably, the worst city in the US, and then punish them when they develop stress induced neurological problems.

      Subject him to it?

      His career was his choice. He can fuck off and find another job if he doesn't like it. Just like the "garbage" that he smacks in the face.

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    • identicon
      I.T. Guy, 13 Jan 2017 @ 6:29am

      Re: Cop probably suffering from PTSD

      Tell him to suck it the fuck up Dr. Phil. Boo fucking hoo. PTSD. Bullshit. Cops have it easy. PTSD. What? Did he get a bad doughnut or two?

      Sounds to me like he was just another bully asshole that is frustrated he has to act like a normal human being. Sounds to me like yet another bad apple that took pleasure causing others pain. I agree with you. He is sick. Just not the kind of sick you describe.

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  • identicon
    Christenson, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:13pm

    Cops living in their communities

    In Cincinnati, it was policy for many years that to be a policeman, a person had to reside in Cincinnati.

    Unfortunately, Cincinnati cops still have a reputation for pettiness and brutality. triggering at least one riot when they shot a mentally ill man.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:22pm

    Leave him his pension

    This career-burning is all words, and thus all about the feels.

    Come back and ask my opinion when you have someone complaining about being actually bitch-slapped by him, or had evidence planted on them, or some other actual line-of-duty offense.

    Sure, you might not LIKE to have him on the force, and his words MIGHT point to actual offenses. But until you have those offenses, he's just a dog on the internet. Whether he's John Law or Judge Dredd when he's on the street is entirely different.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:31pm

      Re: Leave him his pension

      Cops get their word alone taken as truth when they testify and there's no other evidence of what happened, I don't see why we should consider this case any differently than the standard that's already set for them.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 5:22pm

      Re: Leave him his pension

      > Come back and ask my opinion when you have someone complaining about being actually bitch-slapped by him, or had evidence planted on them, or some other actual line-of-duty offense.

      And just who is going to do that investigation? His buddies? Yeah, right.

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      That One Guy (profile), 12 Jan 2017 @ 5:59pm

      Re: Leave him his pension

      Wolff bemoaned cell phone cameras, saying, “You can’t walk up to a kid or asshole and smack him in the face like we did.”

      I too like to complain about no longer being able to do things I never did in the first place.

      Screw letting him resign, fire him and make it public, particularly why he's being fired so that everyone knows just how he feels about them.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 17 Jan 2017 @ 2:49am

      Re: Leave him his pension

      No, he's acting like a spoilt little doucehbag. If he can't conduct himself civilly on the internet, you have to ask how he conducts himself IRL. The bile he's spewing makes him a risk.

      And he's a cop. He doesn't get to say "hey, it's just my edgy persona"...

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 4:27pm

    ...it's tougher to build relationships with the communities you serve while living as far away as you can from them.

    This doesn't just mean law enforcement but our government as a whole. The people who are supposed to govern us, to represent us, to protect us are entirely disconnected from us because they live in magical bubbles separated from us. People in Congress don't know what an average living wage is. They don't have to worry about where their next paycheck is coming from or if they can afford to eat tonight. They don't have to worry about drinking contaminated water or usage restrictions on it. They don't have to worry about getting sick and going into debt for the rest of their life by an outrageous hospital bill. They just simply don't have to care.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 7:05pm

    Devils advocate here. How many murders, rapes, robberies, little old ladies being assaulted, kids killed, etc... would be enough for someone to label those he ends up dealing with as garbage? Everyone, no matter how saintly they want to claim they are has a breaking point. If they didnt, they would be as awful as the criminals they deal with every day. The guy made a fool of himself, but lets face it, very few of us could make it a week doing the job many people do every day in these cities that look like war zones. If all you ever get to deal with is the bottom of society, then that is all you will eventually see in society.

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      PaulT (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 12:57am

      Re:

      "How many murders, rapes, robberies, little old ladies being assaulted, kids killed, etc... would be enough for someone to label those he ends up dealing with as garbage?"

      How many bad interactions with cops do you need before you label all of them as garbage - then why would you treat them as anything but?

      I know where you're coming from here with the devil's advocate thing, but it works both ways. Yes, the nature of the job is that you have to deal with the worst of society. But, you will also come into contact with good people, and if you treat them like they're criminals they won't treat you any better even if you are trying to "protect and serve".

      That seems to be the issue at hand here. If you have too many people policing a community who have no roots or off-duty contact with the community, it's too easy to become an us vs. them battle where both sides hate each other. As evidenced here - this isn't someone policing a community, this is an armed thug who wishes he could violently attack anyone he dislikes (and apparently hates everyone he sees there). The streets are almost certainly better off without him, even if he has good reason for his views.

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      orbitalinsertion (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 10:05am

      Re:

      You know cops deal with all sorts of situations not involving the worst humanity has to offer, right? Including situations they cause themselves by simply being authoritarian.

      Lots of other jobs are stressful and/or dangerous. But somehow it is mostly just cops like this causing the problems. And making it hard for any decent officers on top of it.

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    jimb (profile), 12 Jan 2017 @ 8:16pm

    some people just shouldn't be cops...

    There is always another one coming along, another 'tough guy' cop, proving that some people just shouldn't be cops. Police agencies usually have a slogan with some variation on "protect and serve"... but there are too many cops whose only interest is in proving how much better -they- are than the "dirtbags" they are supposed to be serving. These are the cops who beat people up, shoot unarmed people in traffic stops, and throw their authority around for entirely unrelated issues - like telling a person in a traffic stop to put out a cigarette. Abuse of power just to make themselves feel a little more important, a little better than the citizen they are supposedly "protect and serving". Some people just should not be cops... and the rest of the cops need to let them know it, instead of covering for them. This guy is one who should have been uncovered and convinced to change careers years ago, when he started smacking people instead of doing his job professionally.

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      crade (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 11:01am

      Re: some people just shouldn't be cops...

      Yes, much like politicians.. the criteria showing you shouldn't be a cop is the fact that you want to be a cop.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 12 Jan 2017 @ 9:21pm

    sets fire?

    No he get a higher paying job next town over or with the FBI or most likely with NCIS have you seen their criteria, Murderer check, secretive check, terrorist check, well he's good to go

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    Ninja (profile), 13 Jan 2017 @ 2:16am

    Sets fire? No, my friend, he actually nuked his career.

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  • identicon
    dr evil, 13 Jan 2017 @ 3:15am

    elevate this please

    perhaps one of the anti-cop SJW snowflakes living in Detroit could sue the PD and the officer for emotional distress? after all, to find out that the people you hate but need hate and don't need you back, would be emotionally damaging...

    of course, its very unlikely that any SJW are reading this.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jan 2017 @ 7:14am

    He obviously reddits

    This one might not end with "but by God, you're a damn good detective!"
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/4swenr/youre_an_ordinary_cop_trying_to_get_fired_bu t/

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