Government Officials Think NSA Spying That 'Incidentally' Swept Up Congressional Phone Calls Still Not Enough Spying

from the an-eye-for-five-eyes-makes-the-whole-world-inadvertent-surveillance-targets dept

The Wall Street Journal's recent revelation that the NSA swept up Congress members' communications in a dragnet, which had been assumed to have shut down, has provoked a variety of reactions from Capitol Hill. Some Congress members have angrily expressed their displeasure at being spied on like so many citizens of so many nations (including ours).

Others seem more upset that the NSA's spying was even dialed back in the slightest. In a followup to its bombshell post detailing the inadvertent Congressional surveillance that resulted from its targeting of Israel's president, the Wall Street Journal has rounded up more comments from government officials who firmly believe the NSA did nothing wrong. And, for that matter, it should have been doing more of it.

In the case of Ms. Merkel, U.S. intelligence veterans feared losing access to private communications with Russian President Vladimir Putin. They also questioned the wisdom of the U.S. forfeiting its advantage, especially given their belief that the closest U.S. allies, including Germany’s BND federal intelligence service, were spying on the White House.
As has been the case universally, world leaders decrying NSA surveillance refuse to acknowledge their own intelligence agencies are engaged in the same tactics. Obviously, the NSA doesn't want to run a surveillance deficit -- something that can be ascertained from its general disgruntlement with its Israeli counterparts. Merkel also ignored another inconvenient fact: German intelligence had partnered with the NSA to spy on other foreign government leaders.

The hypocrisy of international politics remains as solid as ever. Even the promise made to Merkel is conditional, subject to revocation at any given moment. As was revealed earlier, the surveillance machinery is still in place. The only thing that's stopped is the direct targeting of Ms. Merkel (other high-ranking German government officials are still fair game) and an additional handful of world leaders the administration has declared to be the sort of "friends" the US doesn't spy on.
Under the new regime that emerged, once a leader was added to the protected list, spying on his or her direct communications was off limits. Restarting monitoring required a consensus among the White House National Security Council, the intelligence services and other government agencies, according to current and former officials.
The implants are still there. The next president could flip them back to surveillance mode. The next episode of international discomfort could bring about the required consensus. The spying was paused, not stopped. But even the pause has been unbearable for some officials.

The NSA maintains it "scrubbed" intercepted Congressional conversations, but that's less reassuring than the agency would like it to be. All it shows is that there's still plenty of ways to gather data and communications originating from US persons. The easiest way to do it is to grab it from the "other side" -- overseas, with extraterritorial intercepts subject to far fewer civil liberties protections than the NSA's purely domestic programs.

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    Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2016 @ 4:13am

    ...surveillance that resulted from its targeting of Israel's president...
    FYI Tim, the head of government in Israel is the prime minister, not the president.

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      tqk (profile), 5 Jan 2016 @ 2:50pm

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      FYI Tim, the head of government in Israel is the prime minister, not the president.

      You're naive. The head of gov't in Israel is the Mossad, Shin Bet, and the hard-line Zionist "hawks" who control them. The politicians serve their interests or are replaced with those who will.

      There are many countries which are generally controlled via consensus between the hawks and doves. A few such as Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Soviet Russia, China, the modern US, and Israel have allowed the hawks to have control.

      I no longer accept that the electorate (or ordinary citizens) in any of them have any real say in the matter. We get to supply the cannon fodder and pay the bills is all, and cheer for "our team."

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    Ninja (profile), 5 Jan 2016 @ 4:52am

    Well, at the very least we can find relief in the fact they spy the hell out of themselves and while we have numbers (millions, billions) to make the haystacks insanely difficult to scoop they are just a few dozen. Much easier to focus.

    Talk about proving your own, concentrated medicine...

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    Anonymous Coward, 5 Jan 2016 @ 6:45am

    A tool for a coup

    NSA spying will do nothing but further strengthen the strings attached to the house of puppets on capital hill.

    Corruption has ALL of Government in its icy grips and it is not likely to let go without drawing blood at this rate.

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    Mason Wheeler (profile), 5 Jan 2016 @ 7:34am

    Wow, we've come a long way from Henry Stimson's declaration that "gentlemen do not read each other's mail."

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    Morgan Wick (profile), 5 Jan 2016 @ 9:34am

    Obviously, the NSA doesn't want to run a surveillance deficit


    "Gentlemen, we must not have a panopticon gap!"

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    Anonymous Coward, 6 Jan 2016 @ 3:46am

    It will never be enough for them.

    Even if they put every person into slavery, they would still demand more control over people.

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