Privacy

by Mike Masnick


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nsa, nsa surveillance



New Video Highlights How The Government Tracks You

from the nsa-video dept

The folks at Fight for the Future and Demand Progress released a great five minute video about how the NSA spies on the public, narrated by actress Evangeline Lilly (the video also relies heavily on fair use to make its point). Check it out:
Last night, the video was "debuted" in New York City, as the film was broadcast on the side of a building from Washington Square Park in Manhattan. While regular readers here won't find anything too surprising or new, it's a good quick summary of what's going on, and is useful for catching people up on the situation if they haven't been following it.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 4:45am

    Nothing to Hide

    I have nothing to hide, why should I care?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 4:57am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      Indeed - the CCTV folks will be by later in the week to install your in home monitoring system. Don't even think about covering up the ones in your bedrooms.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 4:58am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      I'm sure the Jews in 1930's Germany felt the same.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:06am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      Was the irony intentional?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:13am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      Yes you do, which is why your data is collected. You just don't know what it is yet.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:16am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      I expect you wouldn't mind the strip search and sitting in jail for a few days while your home is torn apart so that your "nothing to hide" can be confirmed?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:31am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      Privacy has inherent value, a healthy democracy can not exist if the people are monitored.

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      silverscarcat (profile), 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:40am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      So...

      Let me know who you called today, all of the phone calls, how long those calls were, what you bought today, where you spent your time online, not to mention let me just take a quick look through your email...

      We'll see if you truly have nothing to hide.

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    • identicon
      Bob DeVaughn, 16 Oct 2013 @ 6:08am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      You may have nothing to hide with respect to terrorism, or even illegal activity.

      But could a business competitor exploit your private knowledge? Or a political adversary? What if an organization wanted to single out members to a certain group- do you divulge your sexual orientation, religious or political views?

      Through the NSA a means exists for private (non-government) interests to exploit private personal data. By infiltrating the NSA- which Snowden proves is not that hard- or by exploiting the security flaws they introduce.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 7:20am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      When someone changes the laws so that you have something to hide by your very openness.

      See also, Stalinism, Maoism, Nazism, Husseinism.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 7:27am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      If you have nothing to hide, please post you social security number, banking info and personal family information such mother maiden name and if your married your wife's to. Also any work information would also benefit. This will not be used for any illegal activity I'm just interested in building a family tree like on those on ancestry.com. Trust me! you know you can I work for a government agency!

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 7:53am

        Re: Re: Nothing to Hide

        The government already has my SSN, date of birth, mothers maiden name, etc. No need to hide that from them, but yes I would like to hide that from you.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 8:34am

          Re: Re: Re: Nothing to Hide

          " No need to hide that from them, but yes I would like to hide that from you."

          1. The government is already doing a poor job in protecting that information. Depending on the agency that is handling that info. Giving it to a stranger at times seems safer than having them handling it.

          2. The government and certain agency's want to expand what and for how long this data is stored. They have no issues in expanding who has access to this data.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 7:31am

      Re: Nothing to Hide

      You need to educate yourself.

      Google: "Why nothing to hide is a fallacy" and look at any one of the numerous reports.

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    Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 5:10am

    Does anyone know of good CC licensed NSA related videos? I tried the search feature on YouTube and Vimeo, but the pickings are slim. I'm trying to put together a presentation at my school. Thanks

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      Rikuo (profile), 16 Oct 2013 @ 11:26am

      Re:

      You can still use copyrighted works, as long as you make sure to follow the Four Factor test for Fair Use.
      http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/

      This line will be of a great help to you
      "Purposes such as scholarship, research, or education may also qualify as transformative uses because the work is the subject of review or commentary."

      Since you say you're doing this for school, you can pretty much use any work, as long as you make sure you comment on any work used...which is basically what you're aiming to do anyway.

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    btrussell (profile), 16 Oct 2013 @ 6:21am

    She says it is up to us to stop it. Being left up to the Canadians again?

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    Me, 16 Oct 2013 @ 7:16am

    This is great. It's so good to see attempts to reach the general public now with coordinated, straightforward responses.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 8:25am

    How ironic

    Given that Fight for the Future uses a spam-for-hire service that tracks its readers.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 16 Oct 2013 @ 11:40pm

    The Dude will get the video blocked by copyright infringement. ;)

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