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Obama Cancels Putin Meeting Because Of Snowden, Because Diplomacy Is Like Kindergarten
from the petty-disputes dept
The White House had hinted at this earlier, but now it's been confirmed that President Obama has cancelled a planned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin because of Russia's decision to grant temporary asylum to Ed Snowden. This seems petty in the extreme. No one honestly thought that Putin would simply hand over Snowden. And, really, of all the things to cancel a meeting about, this is the one that pushes him over the edge? He could have cancelled it over Putin's recent homophobic remarks or Russia's latest focus on censoring the internet or putting activists in jail or any number of other things that generally should offend American sensibilities. But using the Snowden asylum as the reason just seems like the federal government is really losing perspective in this whole NSA surveillance debate -- the one Obama claimed he "welcomed."
Honestly, this whole thing feels like kindergarten-style diplomacy. The Russians took "our ball" and so now we're mad at them and won't talk to them. In an adult world, cancelling a meeting over something like this just looks incredibly immature and petty. It's all for show, rather than any legitimate purpose. I'd rather we had a government that didn't do things for show, but for legitimate reasons. Unfortunately, it seems we're well past having that kind of government.
Honestly, this whole thing feels like kindergarten-style diplomacy. The Russians took "our ball" and so now we're mad at them and won't talk to them. In an adult world, cancelling a meeting over something like this just looks incredibly immature and petty. It's all for show, rather than any legitimate purpose. I'd rather we had a government that didn't do things for show, but for legitimate reasons. Unfortunately, it seems we're well past having that kind of government.
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We haven't had the kind that uses legitimate reasons for anything in years.
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I don't really know what Bush thought, but I was never under the impression that he was doing what he thought was right for the nation.
Regardless, Bush looked and acted exactly like a schoolyard bully.
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Usually because it was the wrong thing to be doing. Good intentions don't count for that much if the actions aren't right.
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Dammit!
Obama: *Pounding the ground crying* I want Snowden! I want! I want! I want!
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Das Prez is far less dangerous when he's on a putting green than when ensconced at 1600 Pennsylvania, so let's support his thinly veiled efforts at "diplomacy".
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Enjoy :-3
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This should be interesting to watch. Right now the Government is causing more damage than any leak from Snowden could. Much like the post 9/11 actions caused more harm than any building blown up could ever cause.
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Didn't want to go anyway
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Something to note...
It is being reported that Russia's homophobic policies were exactly what these meetings were supposed to be for.
I hereby applaud the people for voting on TV edited charisma...and blindly ignoring the policies promised in the campaign.
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Pot. Kettle. LOLs.
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Objectionable
Well, two of these three Obama has no issue with.
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I'm suprised the whitehouse didn't delete this one.
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/edward-snowden-is-a-hero
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However, everybody already knew Nixon did something wrong even before a trial.
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130000++ before it disappeared.
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD
https:// petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-edward-snowden-whistle-blower-and-guarantee-he-will-not- face-charges-his-acts-courage/m4pCqtjR
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But in fairness, the older I get the more apparent it is that none of us have ever progressed past grade school, really. We just have more expensive toys than we did as kids.
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DC needs to send itself some FEMA aid...
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*stomps feet and plugs ears
*is the US government.
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Diplomacy or warfare?
What is NOT being said here is probably far more indicative of actual status between Russia and the USA. Hrm.
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Putin has done Obama a favor by making it a condition that Snowden can't keep releasing stuff while in Russia. But being the school yard bully, that doesn't work.
The US government, agencies, and executive branch have done more to embarrass themselves over this matter of what they are doing than all of Snowden's revelations. Snowden proved they were doing it with the evidence. Were they not spying on citizens, despite the Constitution outlines, there would be no issues here. Being caught with their fingers in the cookie jar doing what they know they are not supposed to do is what the real problem is. It is compounded by the showing of a lack of interest to own up to this and come clean.
That is what the real stink is over. Putin is just an excuse.
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