Canadian Librarians 'Owe Duty Of Loyalty To The Government,' Must Self-Censor Opinions Even In Private

from the maintaining-awareness dept

Librarians can play an important role in any society that depends increasingly on access to information to function. One of their jobs is to help people find what they are looking for, in a neutral, objective way, without imposing their own ideas or values in the process. Sadly, it looks like that won't be possible in Canada any more, now that librarians are expected to sign up to a new Code of Conduct imposed on them by the Canadian government. Here's one problematic section:

Employment in the public service involves certain restrictions. Public servants owe a duty of loyalty to their employer, the Government of Canada. This duty derives from the essential mission of the public service to help the duly elected government, under law, to serve the public interest and implement government policies and ministerial decisions. The duty of loyalty reflects the importance and necessity of having an impartial and effective public service in order to achieve this mission.
"A duty of loyalty to their employer, the Government of Canada": I think Stalin would have approved of that. Although there is a token invocation of "the importance and necessity of having an impartial and effective public service", it's clear that obedience to the ruling powers overrides any misguided desire to be impartial. That imposition of an overtly political line to everything librarians do in their jobs is bad enough, but it gets worse:
As public servants, our duty of loyalty to the Government of Canada and its elected officials extends beyond our workplace to our personal activities. Public servants must therefore use caution when making public comments, expressing personal opinions or taking actions that could potentially damage LAC [Library and Archives Canada]'s reputation and/or public confidence in the public service and the Government of Canada. They must maintain awareness of their surroundings, their audience and how their words or actions could be interpreted (or misinterpreted).
"Maintain awareness of their surroundings" is a particularly fine Orwellian phrase that basically means: watch what you say, or else there will be trouble. Of course, one famously dangerous environment is the online world:
With the current proliferation of social media, public servants need to pay particular attention to their participation in these forums. For example, in a blog with access limited to certain friends, personal opinions about a new departmental or Government of Canada program intended to be expressed to a limited audience can, through no fault of the public servant, become public and the author identified. The public servant could be subject to disciplinary measures, as the simple act of limiting access to the blog does not negate a public servant's duty of loyalty to the elected government. Only authorized spokespersons can issue statements or make comments about LAC's position on a given subject. If you are asked for LAC's position, you must refer the inquiries, through your manager, to the authorized LACspokesperson.
Yes, you see, even that private little blog where you make a witty remark about the stupidity of some of Canada's glorious leaders could cause you to be subject to "disciplinary measures" (and please, do remember that parts of Canada are just as cold as Siberia....)

The attempt to dress up this pompous control-freakery as moderate and reasonable -- "through no fault of the public servant" etc. etc. -- would be rather amusing were it not part of a much larger move by Canada's rulers to stifle dissent. Canadian scientists, for example, have been subject to these kind of humiliating restrictions for some time, as the BBC reported last year:

The allegation of "muzzling" came up at a session of the AAAS [American Association for the Advancement of Science] meeting to discuss the impact of a media protocol introduced by the Conservative government shortly after it was elected in 2008.

The protocol requires that all interview requests for scientists employed by the government must first be cleared by officials. A decision as to whether to allow the interview can take several days, which can prevent government scientists commenting on breaking news stories.

Sources say that requests are often refused and when interviews are granted, government media relations officials can and do ask for written questions to be submitted in advance and elect to sit in on the interview.
Adapting some words penned in a much more serious situation, we might say:
First they censored the scientists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a scientist.

Then they censored the librarians, and I did not speak out, because I was not a librarian.

Then they censored me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
Now might be a good time for Canadians to say "enough is enough"....

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    Ninja (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 9:40am

    Now might be a good time for Canadians to say "enough is enough"....

    That. But only Canada? I'd say it's a worldwide need.

     

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    Anonymouse, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:15am

    !

     

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    John Doe, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:22am

    Who knew?

    Who knew that librarians were in such a precarious position in society. With the invention of the internet, I didn't even know there were still libraries. ;)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:23am

    Next step..

    Harper decides that since public servants "owe a duty of loyalty" to the government, that they are not allowed to vote - that the Conservatives will count their votes (for the current government, of course) anyway.

    And then employees of private sector companies are subject to the same "duty", and thus corporations will vote in their stead.

     

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    Mike Zajko, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:24am

    It's notable that this follows librarians and archivists getting vocal last year about cuts and layoffs to LAC
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2012/05/28/archivists-protest.html
    The government has made clear that while slashing the institutions that preserve the country's history is okay, they're willing to invest plenty of cash in mythologizing our epic win against the Americans in 1812 (not that it did them any good - most Canadians could really care less about the war even after all the publicity)
    http://o.canada.com/2012/11/20/canadian-history-heritage-at-risk-from-cuts-to-libraries- and-archives-canada-says-academics/

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:25am

    Th Canadian inquisition is being formed, and once government employees are under control it attention will turn to all dissenters amongst the citizens.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:29am

    who the fuck wrote this? it sounds more like a Communist country demand than that of a supposed democracy! they have gotten things round the wrong way. the Government should be wary of what it says about the people as it's the people that elects the Government and the people are who the Government works for!!

     

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    ethorad (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:35am

    Duty of loyalty to employers

    It's not just the Canadian government taking that line.

    I work in the UK for a US company, and each year we get circulated our corporate values and code of conduct statement. We have to read it and sign to say we have read it and understand it.

    Within the code of conduct there is the line that we "owe a duty of loyalty" to the company and we "must at all times act in the company's best interest".

    First up I have no idea why I owe them a duty of loyalty? They pay my wages, and I turn up to work. They have no loyalty to me, being instead beholden to the owners of the company (publicly listed in this case) so I certainly feel no compuction to be steadfastly loyal to the company.

    And secondly, act at all times in the company's best interest? I'm certainly not going to do anything to damage my employer as I'm happy with the continuing wages for work situation. However, perhaps the company would be best served if I donated my kidney to our CEO? Or perhaps I should offer to take a paycut?

    Absolute garbage. The only reason I feel at all comfortable signing on the code of conduct line is that I agree with most of the rest of the document, and I'm only signing to say that I understand it, not that I agree with it. I understand that the company has some deluded ideas about what I owe them.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:38am

    Prime Minister (in waiting) Trudeau is coming to save the day. With flowing locks of well conditioned hair and a cool tattoo.

    Actually I've no idea what his policy position is on this or any other matter. He will likely win the next election but every article I see on him is complete fluff.

     

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    Zakida Paul (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:40am

    Re: Duty of loyalty to employers

    Amen, brother. I am in the exact same situation.

     

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    ebilrawkscientist (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:42am

    You leap off tall buildings thinking it's not gonna hurt.

    Silence! I've had enough of this wowdy wabble webel behaviour from Parliament Hill! When FREE speech becomes illegal we're at the frontdoor, of the nine outbounds, and the zone of doom. If the Prime Minister doesn't mind our business then the Prime Minister either has no mind or no business. STOP TELLING US WHAT TO DO!

    -It looks like the CENSORED has hit the fan-

     

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    out_of_the_blue, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:43am

    News to Americans: Canadians are SERFS, just like rest of UK.

    Oh, sure, they've a veneer of "rights", and the US is often little better in practice YET the principle of declaring your rights a gift from God and not privileges granted by a mere person is vital to freedom. The US threw off the same inherited tyrants (of German descent) that the Canoo -- er, those dwelling in the frozen north, are still under. Every American ranks equally with ANY person in the UK, and above the serfs who continue to accept second class status.

    But of course the serfs will still say "not in practice", though I've already covered the point. They're hopeless.

    You can't let The Rich inherit feudal privileges even as "figure-heads": they just continue to literally own you. -- So I've written off the UK: good enough for you, serfs.

     

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    John Doe, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:43am

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    Sounds like Obama. The lamestream media softballs him so much that he got slaughtered in the debates because he wasn't use to giving more than superficial non-answers.

     

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    negruvoda, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:50am

    Re: News to Americans: Canadians are SERFS, just like rest of UK.

     

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    AB (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 10:56am

    Re:

    To be fair, his father was one of our better Prime Ministers, which makes him the best option in a long time. That's not necessarily a good thing, just a point of reference.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:04am

    ""A duty of loyalty to their employer, the Government of Canada": I think Stalin would have approved of that."
    - I think *any* employer would, even (especially) yours.

    "it's clear that obedience to the ruling powers overrides any misguided desire to be impartial"
    - Not at all, and you give nothing to back up that claim.

    ""Maintain awareness of their surroundings" is a particularly fine Orwellian phrase that basically means: watch what you say, or else there will be trouble."
    - Really? You're playing THAT card? Lol!

    "Yes, you see, even that private little blog where you make a witty remark about the stupidity of some of Canada's glorious leaders could cause you to be subject to "disciplinary measures" (and please, do remember that parts of Canada are just as cold as Siberia....)"
    - So you ran out of arguments and needed to make a post? Is that it? Or you just wanted to bitch at something you couldn't understand? Re-read the text you quoted and try to understand it this time.

    I can't keep going on. What a mockery this article is. No evidence or facts. Just derogatory terms all over because you don't agree with them? What class and professionalism!

    Now let's play your game:
    First they didn't censor scientists, they put requirements. But I couldn't understand that so I became a librarian. Then my employer told me I couldn't post things about my job on a provide blog, so I started talking to myself and writing up posts on TD, hoping someone could fill me in on what's really going on. Hopefully TD won't censor me!

    Fail.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:05am

    If we're only going to have twenty people running an entire hemisphere, they could at least make an effort to curb the little-bitch syndrome that gives them away every time. "They dont like me waaaah... My election wasreally for real waaaaaah.. gimmee my drones back waaaaaaaah". The last generation was bad, but these kids running things now look up to craven invertebrae and are too lazy to even pretend at leading a democracy. Spoiled little bitches.

     

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    Nick Dynice (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:10am

    Enter: a proliferation of satirical LAC employee gripe blogs. Those should be fun reads.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:12am

    hitler never died

    he just moved west.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:15am

    Loyalty to Whom?

    The government of Canada seems to have gotten in wrong, or at best halfway right here. That section should more appropriately say:
    Public servants owe a duty of loyalty to their employer, the Government of Canada.

    There's a reason they're called public servants, not government servants..

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:16am

    Re: Loyalty to Whom?

    I forgot to change the text of that quoted line. It should read:
    Public servants owe a duty of loyalty to their employer, the Public of Canada.

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:35am

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    Wow, barely posted and the article already gets a visit from the canadian thought police, they really keep you guys on your toes don't they?

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:38am

    Re: Loyalty to Whom?

    Indeed, in a clash between public interests(which free opinions and information supports), and governmental interests(of which those two often oppose), any 'public official' should default to serving the public, as the governments are supposed to be merely representing, and serving, the public they are elected from.

     

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    Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:47am

    Re:

    I'd say it's a worldwide need.Indeed... democractic governments make much of "freedom" and the US even has freedom of speech and expression as a foundation of theirs... but increasingly what they mean all is "freedom of speech as long as we like what you say" - a massively dangerous trend.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 11:54am

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    The idea of a government of the people representing the people is soooo out of style. The only place not pretending to do this is China. There they at least admit to be communists.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:09pm

    Re: Re:

    Said the troll.

     

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    A Not So Idiot Savant, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:21pm

    Re: Re:

    Which of course points out that presidential debates are useless. Most people if offered a chance to dip their hands into the national treasury will do so. Even when the U.S. is bankrupt and has a huge spending problem.

    The people have made their choice and all of us get to live with the consequences.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:23pm

    Scientists, librarians.. I wonder who Steve is going to censor next.

     

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    Anonymous Coward 2, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:46pm

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    Oh crap man, you got 'em.[/sarcasm]

    BTW, I seem to recall a CTV story about Harper sending out trolls to correct "misinformation" (aka spread propoganda). Oh, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpVUYGcgtjw.

    Never had the phrase "obvious troll is obvious been so apropos.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:53pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Critical difference:
    When your employer is a private company, the worst they can do is fire you. Maybe even sue you.
    When your employer is the State, the worst they can do is have you arrested and jailed. Maybe even executed for treason.

    You do realize there is a difference, right?

     

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    John Fenderson (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 12:59pm

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    It would be helpful if you actually explained what was wrong with the posting. Just saying "fail" does nothing.

     

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    Tom Teshima, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 1:08pm

    What is going on with Canada and Great Britain? I used to think Americans could take a few cues from them regarding individual liberties and common sense, but between the press censorship bills being passed in GB and these crazy laws in Canada, I don't know what's going on lately.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 1:29pm

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    In Canada, people elected Stephen Harper to a majority government so he can basically do whatever the hell he wants. I'm curious to see what new sneaky changes to laws that have nothing to do with the budget are going to be included this time around. I really hope people realize just how bad the Harper Regime has been for our country.

     

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    gorehound (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 1:58pm

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    Me Too ! Just waiting to see it all collapse which I think is going to happen sometime this Century.

     

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    Monkey with Attitude, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 2:10pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Nope he's a lawyer, he makes money on you till your dead then makes money on the corpse...

    Shakespear had it rightabout laywers.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 4:16pm

    Re:

    Or in your case:
    I didn't understand apples, so I talked about how yellow and oddly shaped oranges are.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 4:50pm

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    Nobody expects the Canadian inquisition. Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fealty, surrender, ruthless defication, and an almost fanatical devotion to the "Eh", and nice red uniforms.

    No way, Eh, you mangled Monty Python... Expect a visit from the Canadian inquisition....

     

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    art guerrilla (profile), Mar 21st, 2013 @ 5:15pm

    Re: Re:

    senor hound, i think we are of a similar generation; and while in my youth i was a goody-two-shoes and 'the law is the law' type non-thinking, non-feeling asshole, i have evolved to become totally anti-authoritarian, and increasingly fearful for not only this (fake) democracy, but the dog damn planet itself ! ! !

    as i've repeated too many times on the inertnet:
    if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

    we are not in a sustainable mode on SO many levels, and the chickens, they are a comin' home to roost sooner than i thought...

    frankly, i figured i would be done and dust before the merde hit the fan; but it looks like the process is accelerating and is inevitable... we have ignored the warning signs, failed to make corrections to the system, it is becoming too late to affect the outcome, and we are soon to pay the price...

    (and, yes, i mean both socially and environmentally; each catalyzing the other...)

    dog help us all...

    art guerrilla
    aka ann archy
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    Bill, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 7:23pm

    A few corrections.

    First. The title of he article is a bit misleading. The Code if Conduct is only applicable to librarians employed by Library and Archives Canada, not all librarians in Canada. That's a huge distinction to make. A librarian at a municipal library in Toronto is not bound by the Code.

    Second, the Code gets a key fact wrong. Public servants are employed by the Government of Canada but by the Crown of Canada. In a constitutional monarchy, the Crown and Goverment are two separate entities. On Canada, there are tree branches of power: the Crown, legislature (which includes the government if the day) and the judiciary. Public servants work for the Crown

     

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    MD, Mar 21st, 2013 @ 9:16pm

    Bill Has it Right

    Yes, this is only applicable to the federal civil servants toiling away in the library and archives for the feds. The underpaid peons expected to make do when leaky pipes destry documents, etc. because the government would rather spend the money advertising (over budget) how great they are, or refusing to try to rescue Canadian citizens enslaved as child soldiers.

    The majority of librarians work for municipal governments and face a different set of challenges.

     

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    Ninja (profile), Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 4:08am

    Re: Re: Re:

    and, yes, i mean both socially and environmentally; each catalyzing the other...

    It's damn hard to find anyone who can see this. Kudos dear ma'am. *hats off*

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 6:02am

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    This is how democracy works. Public servants owe a duty to the government of the day.
    Let's see - government librarian orders books saying that homosexuality is a disease and the Muslims should be put to death, and tells local libraries to stock them.
    Librarian writes global-warming denial blog and trashes government environmental policies on line.
    Librarian takes money from entertainment industry to produce blog demanding more draconian copyright measures ...
    Techdirt wieghs in to support freedom of expression.
    Happy now?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 9:04am

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    I seem to recall a story about the US gov sending out trolls too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cfUPHcjROAk

    So you're failure at trolling. I work for the gov, I'm also the pope and the president of "exposing trolls online" which you are a prominent target of.

    But of course any one that doesn't agree with the BS spurted out in this article has to be an insider, there's no possible way anyone with a brain capable of critical thinking could ever disagree with you. Nutcase.

    I love the TD trolling community. You guys are so awesome. Keep up the trolling, dear US gov insiders.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 9:05am

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    Only in the US. Name one Canadian Gov employee that was ever jailed for something non-criminal. You can't can you? I thought so. Welcome to the rest of the world.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 9:07am

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    I did, but I guess you can't read.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 9:07am

    Re: Re:

    Or in your case:
    I felt like trolling so I went to TD and trolled nonsense.

     

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    David P., Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 9:09am

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    So wait, you honestly think that US gov trolls are out to get Harper, and so they post critical comments on Techdirt to succeed?

    *die on floor laughing"

    Oh, and I guess UK gov. trolls cause you know, Glyn is actually from London.

    So not only do you fail at trolling, you are retarded as well.

    Please go back to Harper and tell of your failure. Of course, knowing him, he'll probably appoint you as a senator.

     

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    special-interesting (profile), Mar 22nd, 2013 @ 10:32am

    Kinda scary. Aren't all Canadians already loyal citizens in good standing? As such they should not need any extra agreement. Just the fact that such a contract has been submitted there must be something other than the issue of loyalty at steak.

    Why divide up the country with loyalty contracts and what is the difference between citizens (who are by default already loyal) and government? The schism being created might grow.

    The anon comment of treason rang a bell. Remember what loyalty is and its relation to fealty. (to the Crown?)

    First you throw and set the hooks. Then you heave ho the barge to the dockside. Then you load the garbage. From the outside it looks like the hook stage.

     

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    John P. Gillespie, Mar 23rd, 2013 @ 7:22am

    I thought Canada was a free country- guess I was wrong on that , eh?

     

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    Michael Saunders, Apr 19th, 2014 @ 7:50am

    Elder Abuse By Civil Servents

    DISGRUNTLED DISABLED SENIOR SEEKS ASSISTANCE

    Michael Saunders
    509-1011 Concordia Ave.
    Winnipeg
    Canada
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    204-256-8414
    sss@shaw.ca

    3/04/2014

    Over the past two years my life has been pure hell!!!!!! In 2012 I totally unexpectedly was informed that I had not entered numerous T4 slips when I did my taxes. This came as a complete surprise in/as due to the fact that I was physically disabled I had not been able to work since 2007.

    I immediately contacted the taxation office but was met with deaf ears…… At this time I was informed that my previous years were being investigated and that I had not entered numerous T4 slips covering numerous timeframes of employment.

    I tried unsuccessfully to explain that I had not been working during this period and at this time I asked for copies of the different T4 slips so/as I could see where they were getting their information from. This request was met with deaf ears completely denying me this information.

    The next week I was confronted with yet another surprise…..I received notice from the pension and disability board that my pensions were being investigated due to the fact that I had been working and drawing a disability pension….something completely against the rules. Once again I tried to explain that I had not been working during this period in time but if I thought that my protests were denied before….well to say the least I was once again accused of defrauding the pension board in/as they had ???PROOF???? That I had been working and not declaring my income…..one person openly stated and I quote “IF I SPENT AS MUCH TIME GAINING EMPLOYMENT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DEFRAUD THE GOVERNMENT THEN I MIGHT BE BETTER OFF” Unquote……. And this was after I had informed her that I had not been working due to physical difficulties and that my SIN had been compromised.

    These events were the beginning of a battle with both the pension boards and the taxation office…..I was met with an attitude that completely floored me. No matter what I stated or was able to show the different government offices only caused these offices to dig their heels in and block me from getting this matter straightened up.

    I realize that the average citizen would have not stood a chance when having to deal with those employed by the Federal Government….HOW DARE A LOWELY CITIZEN EVEN QUESTION THEIR DECISIONS!!!!!!! AND HOW DARE THEY EVEN QUESTION THE ACTIONS OF THE GODS IN POWER!!!!!!

    Well I am not the average citizen!!!!!!!!! I DO SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF IN KANADA……I FOUGHT BACK!!!!!!

    It took close to a year to get the mess partially straightened out within the different government offices and to try and get my life back and I would like to state that this matter had been straightened out but this is not the case. At every turn I have met flack. In the end I was informed that due to the foul-up with my taxes and through the differences in calculations made with the pension boards (SNAFU’s directly caused by the taxation office not realizing that the numerous T4 slips had my SIN but different names and addresses on them….something that my 7 year old niece readily pointed out) I would have to pay back any and all overpayments. This action was the final straw and completely wiped out our meager savings and put my wife and me deep in dept. All the savings that we had put aside for our retirement completely vanished…..but the tax man doesn’t make mistakes????????? And I soon found out the taxpayer is held responsible for any and all errors being made!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This was only the beginning of my problems with both my taxes but more so with my pensions. One office would tell me one thing then another office would inform me that I did not understand what had been told to me and I would be told to do something else. One form which I was told that I didn’t have to fill out in/as the information that it contained was already on my file…..well four months later I was informed that my pension was once again being threatened due to the fact that I had not filled out the form. When I tried to explain that I had been informed that I did not have to fill out the form (From a service Canada official)….well the person literally called me a liar informing me that “””NO-ONE IN SERVICE CANADA WOULD HAVE TOLD ME SUCH!!!!!””””” Another time I was told that I had filled out the form wrong….that I had utilized the wrong format when I filled out the date (I had used the format re: / day/ month/year and they wanted month/ day/ year…..because of this the form had sat on someone’s desk for three months…..ant it was only after I had inquired about it that I was informed of the Mistakes on the form.

    This action became the norm when I had any dealings with the different government offices. Each and every one of them working directly to rule seem to find fault with any and every for that I have to send out. One department would tell me one thing then another would deny that I had been informed of this matter. Numerous forms would be sent to me to be filled out butt to a letter I would be informed that I had not filled each and every of them correctly. When I was met with this I started to take the different forms to Service Canada to be filled out…… To try and combat this I started to take the different forms and items that I had to send to the different government agencies but this was met with objections in/as I was bluntly informed that Service Canada Officials were not allowed to fill out any forms for clients!!!!!


    Now I have been met with another obstacle……….when I filled out and sent in my tax information expecting a small refund….well nothing showed up. I inquired about this through a phone call to the tax office but I was informed that my file had been red flagged and that I faced a 16 week wait while they investigated my tax claims…. Something that is totally unheard of. When I questioned a taxation official He bluntly stated that I was being singled out for SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!!!

    When I questioned this I was bluntly informed that due to the fact that I had reported that my identity had been stolen that the tax office would have to do a yearly review of all information regarding my claims……..Then the very next day I received more forms to fill out from the pension office….forms that needed information contained on my tax files. Now I have been informed that due to the fact that I have not yet filed my taxes that other items are being either delayed or terminated.

    Once again I went to my local Service Canada seeking assistance with the forms refusing to leave until they were filled out properly. I did not desire to face another round of accusations coming from their office accusing me of either not putting the correct information on the form or to say the least being once again accused of falsifying information of the different forms…..something that I faced numerous times over the past two years!!!!!!!

    During this visit I met a young staff member who, when this person looked over my files, stated that my file had been RED FLAGED and that I was on the SHIT LIST!!!!! When I refused to leave the office until my forms were properly filed I was finely able to get this carried out. My only hope is that the powers to be cannot find anything out of place so/as to once again accuse me of trying to defraud the pension boards and taxation office.

    When I left the building I was met by the young person who asked me if I could lend a smoke. With this we stepped off the property and lit our smokes (It seemed strange that the person started choking when he tried to smoke the cigarette….it was very apparent that he did not smoke on a regular basis).

    This person candidly told me that my files were flagged and that from the past history everything that could possibly be done to foul up my claims was being done. This person also stated that from his knowledge that the taxation office was going to extreme lengths to screw me within their department…..it was also stated at this time that I had caused through my activities different people in the different offices to have their work sanctioned and that different people had been taken to task regarding the multitude of mistakes that were made with the bogus T4 slips that were falsely entered onto my tax accounts. That this had caused numerous problems in the tax office….problems that had caused difficulties for different people within this government office. He also went on to state that the reason that no one had been charged for using my SIN was that the taxation did not desire to have this matter to become public record which it would have been if it went to court……..HE WENT ON TO STATE THAT THE TAX MAN DID NOT MAKE MISTAKES…..PEROID!!!!!!!!! AND THAT THEY WOULD GO TO ANY LEVEL TO PREVENT OTHERWISE FROM BECOMING PUBLIC.

    Stating this the person stated that it was very apparent that I was being singled out for retaliation and that they were doing everything in their power to screw me (This persons words not mine) AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I LIVED IN A FREE COUNTRY NOT ONE OF THOSE WHO THE PRIME MINISTER POINTED HIS BONEY FINGERS AT ACCUSING THEM OF THEIR ILLEGALAND IMMORAL TREATMENT OF THEIR CITIZENS!!!!!!!! JUST MAYBE HE SHOULD LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND VIEW JUST HOW THE MOST VUNTURABLE OF CANADAIN CITIZENS ARE BEING TREATED BY HIS OWN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS!!!!!!!

    This fiasco has totally crippled my wife and I on every front.

    That through extremely creative accountancy when the taxation office adjusted my taxes thus removing the bogus T4 slips we had to pay back different amounts of monies that the tax office stated that they had overpaid us. After the different returns were evaluated using the information that I had at my disposal (Re. not utilizing the bogus T4 slips) that my tax returns had been processed correctly. That any and all mistakes and miscalculations was done directly due to the taxation office not spotting the bogus T4 slips which contained my SIN but a different name and address.

    That the different pension boards had red flagged my accounts based directly on the fact that I had not reported the income from the bogus T4 slips….that I had been defrauding the different pension boards because of this and that I had received numerous amounts of monies illegally…..that numerous back payments and penalties were the direct result of this fraudulent
    action.

    That numerous credit cards had been utilized and that when I reported that my identity had been stolen this claim was rejected due to the fact that the person who had utilized my credit cards had not been arrested or charged with any offence. I was informed that if the person had illegally utilized my SIN then they would have been charged with identity theft and violating my SIN. That since no one had been charged and no official record was on file that my identity had been compromised that I was being held responsible for any and all charges made on the different credit cards.

    That due to the fact that I had been able to show that the taxation office has made a major SNAFU that they had tried to cover said SNAFU up. When I refused to back down I was flagged as a trouble maker and am now suffering the results of such. That any and all tax claims would and are being treated with to quote a top tax expert extreme creative accountancy.
    That when I questioned the different subsidies that I had been getting when compared to what I would have gotten I was informed that the board went by the information as supplied by the taxation office. When I tried to point out the taxation office had not picked up the bogus T4 slips when they revised my taxes this argument was out rightly rejected. When I objected I was informed that if I had not tried to defraud the tax office by not entering the T4 slips in question when I did my taxes then I would not be in the predicament that I am in now. That the pension board bases their decision directly on the results of the data that they received from the taxation office not some fairy tale being fed to them by a person that deliberately falsified their tax reports.


    To conclude:

    One…….I filed my taxes utilizing the information that was at my disposal doing so in a legal and ethical mannerism not trying to defraud the tax office nor the different pension boards.
    Two…..Having to investigate the charges that were falsely brought against me (on my own having to fight against the multitude of blocks put in place by the taxation office)I was able to prove that what mistakes that were made were done so with-in the data impute directly controlled by the taxation office…

    That I had entered all prevalent information regarding my income and that I had no knowledge of the bogus information regarding information concerning employment contained on the T4 slips in question and that even though I had to do my own investigations was able to prove that the numerous T4 slips were not mine.

    Three…..That I had to pay back numerous monies due to the fact that the taxation office had made mistakes on my taxes due to the bogus T4 slips being entered (Ones that had my SIN but a different name….something that my seven year old niece was able to spot but the BRAINS at the taxation office couldn’t detect). After the taxation had finished their audit utilizing extremely creative accountancy methods….all legal of course, I was made to feel that all the mistakes that had transpired due to the bogus T4 slips (the ones that contained my SIN but not my name or other data….something totally missed by the data input officials, the auditors who had reassessed my taxes and the powers to be who had accused me of defrauding and miss-representing my income when I filed my taxes) were my fault and that even though I had been paid different amounts over the past five years that I had to repay these amounts in/as they (in the tax office) don’t make mistakes!!!!

    Four….Due to the fact that I had the nerve to question the “”GODS”” in the tax office and to prove that they had screwed up I was being chastised for my actions….HOW DARE A LOWELY TAX PAYER AND CITIZEN QUESTION THE GODS IN THE TAX OFFICE……. And it is very apparent that due to this my case had been red flagged for retaliation and that those in their Ivory Towers will and are going to go to any length to teach me a lesson….that it is not nice to question the actions of the GODS IN THE TAX OFFICE.

    It took me close to a year to get this mess straighten out having to overcome every obstacle that could be placed in my way regarding my case. I had to go to extreme measures to have this carried out and I feel that I will have to utilize the same methods if these actions continue and I continually have to face the retaliatory actions that I have been exposed to. The level and extent will only be governed by the responses that I receive and only when these actions cease.

    Just how many citizens of this once fine nation have been terrorized by the very people that are there to serve them?????? Just maybe it is time that those in power where removed along with the attitudes that they have in place.

    Over the past two years we have been met with the same BS at every turn. With statements coming our way in as: That is what you get for trying to cheat on your taxes and/or you shouldn’t try and defraud the pension boards have been the norm. Due to the fact that the perp has not been charged with using my SIN we have faced, time and time again, with the fact that we are guilty of falsifying our taxes; of running up thousands of dollars on our credit cards; of trying to defraud the different pension boards…..the list is endless meanwhile the person who started this ball rolling walks free due to the fact that the taxation board refused to have him brought into court where the problems that we are faced with would be proven false and we would have our name cleared. Until then we will be considered guilty of the above and will continually have to face the consequences.
    I have tried, to no avail, to have the taxation publicly clear my wife and myself of these charges but they steadfastly refused. Due to the adverse financial penalties; the multitude of credit card dept. (Our credit has been totally ruined), The multitude of back payments assessed by the taxation office and the pension boards when they utilized very creative accountancy forcing us to pay back any and all penalties that they could find due to the mistakes made by the tax department (due to them not detecting that someone else was using my SIN even though my file had been gone over by numerous auditors and their so-called tax experts…..the ones who couldn’t detect that the names and addresses on the T4 slips did not match what was on file)…..to say the least our lives have become a complete nightmare!!!!!
    If you are displeased about the level of abuse that my wife and I have had to endure please write showing your objections to the Prime Minister at pm@pm.gc.ca.... This is the only way that procedures can be put in place that will protect the general public from their abuse of power…..just remember this atrocity could also happen to you or one of your family members….something that you would have no defense against!!!!!
    Thanking you I am For Your Assistance and support.

    Michael Saunders

     

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