FBI Denies That Hacked Apple Info Came From FBI

from the then-where-did-it-come-from dept

Earlier today, we wrote about Antisec releasing some Apple UDIDs to show that it had apparently collected info on 12 million Apple users, which it claims to have found when it hacked into an FBI's laptop. As we noted at the time, the file was called "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv," which implied that it came from the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance, a vehicle set up to allow companies to share info with the government. However, the FBI is now flat out denying that any of its laptops had been hacked or that it had the info. Antisec is, to say the least, unimpressed:
The FBI's denial comes after an earlier, weaker denial, in which they just said they had "no evidence" to support the story. Now they're saying it's "TOTALLY FALSE" (all caps for EMPHASIS). And, of course, Antisec folks are reminding the FBI (and the public) that they're still sitting on 3TB of additional data from this hack -- which suggests that they're planning to release more to prove that the hack really was of an FBI machine. Either way, now that the fight is happening on Twitter, it seems time to grab some virtual popcorn, sit back and watch the fireworks.
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    relghuar, 5 Sep 2012 @ 2:55am


    As to the size problem (3TB) - depends on what Antisec guys meant. If it's 3TB of plain text (like the CSV file with UDIDs, or some logs or whatever) and it has been stored compressed, the ratio could be anywhere from 1:5 to 1:15 (we regularly get over 1:10 for apache log files), so at 1:10 it would be 300GB of data. Still not very plausible to come from single notebook, but not THAT awful... Anyway, that's just a mental exercise, certainly not any precise analysis :-)
    For the FBI claiming they never had that data - well, I definitely CAN imagine a scenario when they wouldn't even know they had it, or at least know exactly what they had.
    I've heard speculations the data came from hacked iPhone App vendor - might be, but perhaps the vendor didn't have to be hacked? Perhaps the vendor could have - generously - share the data with NCFTA (well that's what they're for, right), and the NCFTA could then share the data with FBI, which (surprisingly, given their famous technical knowledge and overall high level of skills) could then loose the data by getting hacked (real shock, never happened before).
    I really can't decide what's worse - if their lying through their teeth, or them being so incompetent they don't even KNOW what's being shared with them.
    On the other hand, it could explain why they say CISPA is necessary - of course they need new laws, when they don't know about anyone sharing any relevant data with them :-/

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