Reddit Sleuths In Action: Highlight How Obama Answered A 'Planted' Question [Update: Or Not?]

from the but-let's-talk-about-rampart dept

Update: There are some good points raised in the comments, showing that the woman in question has responded to the claims and insist that she wasn't a plant.

We were a bit disappointed in how President Obama handled his recent Reddit AMA, giving mostly canned politician's answers to a community that tends to expect a bit more human emotion. It was no Woody Harrelson debacle, but it did seem like a missed opportunity. And, now, some Redditors are suggesting that parts of it were actually stage. Some internet sleuthing pointed out that among the only 10 questions that Obama chose to answer (out of hundreds that were asked almost immediately) was one from someone who appears to have been planted by the administration. The evidence:
  • Profile created mere hours before minutes after the AMA was announced, and literally six seconds before asking a well written, paragraph long question (approximate typing speed assuming it was typed after creating the account? 1570 wpm)
  • Created a profile 5 minutes 39 seconds after the AMA going live, when servers were having a fit.
  • Asked question explicitly requesting ways to recruit the youth that Obama relied on last election (many of whom are disillusioned with him, for all the reasons she presents herself as being subject to)
  • Is literally only 1 of 10 questions answered.
  • asked by one hmlee who (according to some internet detective work):
    • has only one comment in her history, total
    • Posted a blog entry supporting Obama
    • lists herself as working/having worked as an intern at the Department of Justice

So, is it possible that she heard about it on her own, created an account, and typed up an eloquent question that is a PR man's wet dream all within less than 6 minutes? Yes, it's possible. It's just not particularly likely.

It isn't that surprising that the administration would plant questions, though it is a bit surprising that they thought they'd get away with such a blatantly obvious planting. Why not find a supporter who was an actual Redditor and have them ask the question? Either way, we've pointed out that the key to a good Reddit AMA tends to be showing off your human side. Responding to planted questions with politicians' answers doesn't seem to qualify.


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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:08pm

    umm gawker just posted a story about this and the question was a legitimate one from an actual law school student.

    http://gawker.com/5939617/reddit-libertarians-accuse-obama-administration-of-planting-questions- in-ama

     

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      :Lobo Santo (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:15pm

      Re: Habeus Corpus

      Let's just let the facts speak for themselves.

       

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      Mike Masnick (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:29pm

      Re:

      Added an update to the post...

       

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        SD (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 4:53pm

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        The explanation raises more questions than answers

        Such as admitting "I worked for them in 2008"

        Perhaps someone from the campaign recognized her screenname, or she was luckily or randomly picked out of thousands and had nothing to do with the selection?

        Okay.

        Even if the question wasn't planted, knowingly asking softball questions is a shameful thing for a journalist/blogger to do.

        Like we can't already get those answers from campaign ads, stump speeches, candidate web sites, many mainstream media interviews, etc.

         

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    Jake, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:20pm

    Oh, well, at least he tried.

     

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    FruitSnack (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:21pm

    The Verge also just posted an email reply from the student.

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/3282911/reddit-obama-ama-plant-hmlee

     

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    Michael Long (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:22pm

    Here is Lee's full explanation:

    I am not an Obama plant. I have no affiliation with the campaign. I worked for them in 2008, but I haven't done anything for them in 2012 -- mainly because I was busy finishing law school, looking for a job, and studying for the bar exam (priorities, you know). As to the connection to the Department of Justice -- yes, I interned there during law school for six months. My last day of work was in December 2011, so I haven't had any connection to the federal government for quite some time. And the idea that asking a question of Obama (even if some considered it a softball question) would somehow curry favor with the DOJ is... well, ludicrous. Though I wish it were true because I could still use a job.

    And the mystery about the account is relatively simple as well. I've used reddit for years -- though mainly as a lurker. On my own laptop, my reddit account is typically logged in with the information saved in my browser. When the Obama AMA occurred, I wasn't on my own computer. I couldn't get my normal login to work and knew that if I didn't get my question submitted in a hurry it'd get lost in the shuffle. So I just created a new account.

    As to hearing about the AMA in the first place, I got a gchat from a friend about two minutes prior to it starting who told me that it was happening and to keep an eye on reddit's front page for it to post. I guess you could consider the question a little bit of a softball, but that was intentional, in as much as I wanted to get it answered. I knew that the President, being a politician, wouldn't answer an argumentative or controversial question. Similarly, my question was more likely to get answered if it was at least reasonably grammatically correct. So I typed it up in notepad, proofread it once, and submitted it. Pretty simple.

     

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      HAHAHA I AM SO EVIL YOU CANT STOP ME I AM KING OF ALL TROLLS

       

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      Michael Long (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:28pm

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      Incidentally, Mike, the idea that it could even be a plant is ridiculous. Even if there was a canned reply he wanted to make, there were thousands of likely questions from which he could pick and choose and go off from there. It's a time-honored political technique.

      The benefit isn't worth the risk.

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:33pm

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        I agree.

         

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        Anonymous Coward, Sep 1st, 2012 @ 11:45am

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        You're kidding right? Politicians answering plant questions in supposedly open forums is so far from ridiculous it's something that's actually happened in the past. To declare suspicion of a question like that 'ridiculous' given the timings is hopelessly naive. The reality, as it turns out, isn't that far off anyway. It's an Obama supporter with some much stronger ties than average to the administration asking a soft-ball question.

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Sep 1st, 2012 @ 7:37pm

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          " Politicians answering plant questions in supposedly open forums is so far from ridiculous it's something that's actually happened in the past."

          Well, if Obama knows the questions ahead of time and he simply selects an easy question this is a little different. If you pick a random person in front of an audience you may not know what question they will ask and so it's more advantageous to plant a question. If, in this situation, he is first presented with the questions and he gets to choose which question he wants to answer ahead of time, with many questions to choose from, he can simply choose a convenient question. No need to plant a question.

           

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      Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 3:13pm

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      This sounds like a troll to me.

       

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      BK Martin, Sep 1st, 2012 @ 4:35am

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      "I worked for them in 2008"
      "As to the connection to the Department of Justice -- yes, I interned there during law school for six months. My last day of work was in December 2011."
      Your own words, all you've done is work for them! I believe you still do, by your own words...

       

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      That Anonymous Coward (profile), Sep 1st, 2012 @ 4:55am

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      "I knew that the President, being a politician, wouldn't answer an argumentative or controversial question."

      He is supposed to be incharge, and if he is unwilling to try to answer questions that aren't softballs he really isn't worthy of the position.
      He is more afraid of media spin than pissing off voters, seems like a stupid game until you remember that the system is rigged anyways.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:26pm

    I've long suspected that many of the questions corporate endorsed politicians (or would be politicians) get on the MSM are staged and they have had time to prepare beforehand.

     

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    Ree Tardican, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:30pm

    I built this web site.

     

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    BeaverJuicer (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:36pm

    I'm disappointed he didn't answer the one about the horse sized ducks.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:38pm

    Just because she's a real person means she wasn't put up to it? OK

     

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    Nastybutler77 (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 1:48pm

    And this Lee person has had how long to come up with a reasonable explanation?

     

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      Vidiot (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 4:03pm

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      Flip side: A plant would have days... weeks... in advance to create profiles and such... why wait til the event? I've created last-minute logins for special content that interested me.

       

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    Zos (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 2:02pm

    lets not get distracted. he answered ten bloody questions with standard media intern politiflac, he didn't really need to plant anyone since they pick and choose which ones will be answered anyway.

     

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    IP Lawyer, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 2:08pm

    The Update is not Enough

    Mike, seriously, this needs to come down or have a strikethrough for the entire post.

    What happened is that some Ron Paul supporters on reddit got mad at Obamas AMA, created an hysteria, and then reputable news organizations stepped in to prove that the allegations are 100% false. By having this headline up, and google searchable, however, you perpetuate the bullshit.

    This is a huge coup for reddit, and it is important that the mainstream media takes reddit seriously. Instead, however, you are feeding them ammunition -- which is entirely fictional -- to discount what is arguably the most powerful and relevant online community in America.

    Sincerely, do us all a favor. Change the headline of this post or offer a blanket retraction. Because this is just bullshit.

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 2:39pm

      Re: The Update is not Enough

      to discount what is arguably the most powerful and relevant online community in America.


      No unwarranted self importance here, eh Mr Redditor?

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Sep 1st, 2012 @ 11:49am

        Re: Re: The Update is not Enough

        I honestly don't see what's unwarranted about that given the major caveat of 'online.' Can you list some more powerful and relevant online communities to back up your point?

         

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      Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 2:56pm

      Re: The Update is not Enough

      You using the handle IP Lawyer is complete bullshit, the rest of this is a story that is panning out.

       

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      Archillies, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 3:54pm

      Re: The Update is not Enough

      A coup for Reddit? Who are you kidding! Reddit doesn't need Obama for anything at all but Obama surly wants to seem cool for the Reddit voters.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 11:08pm

      Re: The Update is not Enough

      AMEN!!

       

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    Gunntherd (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 3:08pm

    "I was busy finishing law school, looking for a job"

    Bwaahaa....Law student, Obama butt kisser and looking for a job, dam what a wonderful life!!!! Keep voting for people like this and you won't have to worry about finding a job!!!

     

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    SD (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 3:17pm

    This whole thing about "plants" is probably a pysop by /r/trees

     

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    Wayne, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 3:33pm

    " It isn't that surprising that the administration would plant questions, though it is a bit surprising that they thought they'd get away with such a blatantly obvious planting. "

    I like how a small list of flimsy evidence immediately leads to a guilty conviction. I think I am pretty much done with Techdirt, you guys have really lowered your bar for intelligence and rational thought. It is amazing how Obama seems to bring out the worst in everyone.

     

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      Wally (profile), Aug 31st, 2012 @ 5:03pm

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      Ok, this being said, you are free to come and go as you please. I should point out to you that neither candidate this year has given any iota to what's right for the US.

      Romney wants to burn our current budget to the ground. Obama wants to kick our can of debt down for the next president to deal with....while spending over $10-trillionUS.

       

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    Coyne Tibbets, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 4:36pm

    Every politician in recent memory vets questions from the press in advance. Reads from a teleprompter. Passes questions to the press or to supporters that they want to be asked (as in this topic). Reviews the tapes of their interview, to approve the cut. Buys advertisements that are portrayed in the media as documentaries.

    It's just today's spin machines in action; which each successful politician requires in order to offset their opponent's spin machine.

    So what is this story really about? Looks to me like it's a rooster crowing, "Caught another one."

    Big deal.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 31st, 2012 @ 4:37pm

    no need to plant when you can cherry pick the best 10 from gazillions

     

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    kehvan (profile), Sep 1st, 2012 @ 8:59am

    Yes, I'm certain she's a plant...

    Ficus maybe... I'm not sure, but surely she's a broad leafed plant.

     

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    Scott, Sep 1st, 2012 @ 12:05pm

    Disinformation

    With the quantity of "Experts" voicing their opinions as fact, it is difficult to sort out the real details.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 4th, 2012 @ 11:01am

    People are really out of touch with politics in the 21st century if they are surprised or even care that planted questions exist. There's far less ethical things going on in politics these days!

    Politicians take money from lobbies and then make laws that favor these lobbies. It's legalized bribery.
    Politicians smear each other on unimportant points (such as 'bad' youth decisions; e.g. smoking pot) rather than focusing on the stuff that really matters.
    Politicians lie to the public, whether it is about the stuff they will do if elected, their past actions as elected officials or the actions of their rivals.
    Politicians and the government are not transparent enough. How can you actually vote when you don't know the truth? We might as well use a randomness generator to pick our officials.
    Politicians try to censor votes by targeting neighborhoods, towns and communities that are strongly in favor of rival politicians or parties. Canada recently had the Robocall Scandal where the conservatives made phone calls to known liberal households informing them that voting bureaus had been moved to another location (when it actually wasn't the case). Apparently the same has been going on in the USA for a while.
    And of course, since there's hardly any control on money in political elections, those with the most money will get more exposure regardless of how good their ideas are. Limiting the funding of a campaign? No can do.

    And yet you guys are making a big deal that out of 10 questions one might have been planted? And you're actually debating whether it was planted or not as if it's the biggest thing to worry about right now?
    Something tells me whether Romney or Obama gets elected in October, your country won't get better.

     

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    Ruth, Oct 9th, 2012 @ 12:12pm

    what to talk about

    maybe of the few times romney is right. talk should be about his 47 percent instead of big bird.about all the lies he expressed about 716 million dealing with health care and issues concerning women. put big bird to sleep for a while

     

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    mary, Oct 9th, 2012 @ 12:25pm

    Romney

    Romney lies continually. He does not care about people his wife needs to stop fooling herself and take him to a phychari he cyhanges his thoughts from day to day sometimes in the same day 47 issues showed me just where he stands I wrote him off as he has done the 47. Republicians are pretty desperate to want him in the white house and america would be at a lost

     

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