Scammers Mimic Copyright Troll Shakedowns In Targeting Megaupload Users

from the but-of-course dept

We've noted in the past the similarities between mass IP infringement trolling lawsuits and shakedown scams -- and have even seen some out-and-out scammers mimic the techniques of copyright trolls. Torrentfreak now reports that some scammers are specifically targeting Megaupload users, pretending to be lawyers demanding payment for infringements on Megaupload. While these are pure scams, given the MPAA's own statements about possibly suing Megaupload users, combined with the success rate that copyright trolls often have in getting some people to just pay up, it seems likely that a fair number of recipients of such a scam letter are actually falling for it.


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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 12:30am

    It gets to the point where you can only seperate the scammers from the lawyers by how polite the letters are. The scammers are the more polite ones.

     

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    Josef Anvil (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 1:05am

    New old news

    Yay it's a "new" business model.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 1:11am

    Why does the government spend more time and energy fighting file-sharing than fighting online extorsion?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 1:39am

    Real takedown notices

    Or fake takedown notices.

    I CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. THEY ARE BOTH SCAMS! :D

     

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    DMNTD, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 2:09am

    Don't give in...

    ?!!?!?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 2:12am

    Where do they get the names and addresses associated with the Megaupload Account? They could only be obtained from the Megaupload database or from whatever organization has access to the Megaupload files...ie the hosting company or the US Govt.

    Given the hosting company is a Company with a reputation for probity, honesty and ethical business practices it most likely wasn't them. This only leaves the US Govt which has proven itself unethical and dishonest. But, you know, the US Govt may be cash strapped but this penny ante scheme won't help them out of the financial shit.

    So someone else has access to the data...hmmm the RIAA and the other usual suspects have access to it? Would they raise themselves up from the the dregs aspiring to enter the gutter and extort money from people like this? Naaa! Not enough involved in it for them to participate.

    So who, then. Common criminals? Having access to data locked up by the US Govt? The porous US Govt?

    Sounds about right.

     

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      That Anonymous Coward (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 2:22am

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      The problem with this is simply only people who ever used MegaUpload would respond or have anything to say about it.

      I get about 15 messages a week across my accounts telling me I have lost messages on Facebook, my Battlenet account is suspended, The UN wants to give me 21 million for getting scammed, LinkedIn has messages for me, the FBI is investigating me, etc etc etc. They are all scams and I don't even blink because I never used those services.
      I have used Mega in the past to host a file for a community, insert shill attack here, because it was easy and accessible. So a message about Mega to me would at least get opened before I laughed my ass off at the contents.

      The trick is not so much being specific in your targeting, but using the right keywords that won't trip a spam filter, and ring remotely true to a recipient.
      If "Nigerian Prince Scams" weren't working do you think we'd still be getting emails about helping them steal money?
      You can spam thousands of people for pennies, if one bites your already in the black.

       

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        Skeptical Cynic (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 4:42am

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        The tricks are the same that the old "Psychic" scammers use to use. Like you said talk in vague terms until the shill gives you more information and then you expand on the story from there. We call it phishing now but it has been around a long time before the first light bulb.

        All scams work on one of two human emotions. Fear or greed.

         

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      Richard (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 2:41am

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      They don't know that anyone has used mega - they just spam everyone. Like the phone call I had about may "Microsoft Computer". I told the woman she had no legal mmeans of knowing that I had a "Microsoft Computer" - she hung up.

       

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      PaulT (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 3:55am

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      "Where do they get the names and addresses associated with the Megaupload Account?"

      They don't, presumably.

      It's not clear, but the images on the article are referred to as "screenshots", which presumably means that these are being sent as emails rather than physical letters. In other words, it works like a typical phishing scam - huge numbers of emails are sent to random addresses. Anyone who wasn't a Megaupload user or has a decent spam filter will just ignore the emails, as would anyone who understands how these scams work. A handful of those contacted would take it seriously, admit guilt (or get scared by threats of future legal action) and pay up.

      No corruption or conspiracy involved, just a phishing scam that latches on to a new fear vector to extort money like any other scam. The only thing that makes this notable in comparison to other scams is that it's exactly what the RIAA have threatened to do, only using a better targeted database. The scam itself is identical.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 6:39am

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      How about they just send it out to every address they have for their Viagra solicitations and catch the crossover? LOOK!!!!!! black helicopters!!!!!!

       

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    CheMonro (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 2:16am

    Kill them all: God will know his own

    Just send out payment demands to every email on the net, my friend. Some of them must have had Megaupload accounts, right?

     

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    Digitari, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 3:31am

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    Could "email filter" become a new defense??

    "Sorry Judge, I was not ignoring the Court, my email filter ate your Notice"

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 6:49am

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      This is one of the reasons why most legitimate legal notices aren't done through email in the first place. But that begs another question. Why then do some companies (albeit foolish to do so) accept DMCA takedown requests via email? Maybe we need a law that bars any official legal action from being initiated via email.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 4:44am

    C'mon, magically unanonymous anonymous cowards. Defend this.

    I dare you.

     

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    abc gum, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 6:10am

    When did email become an acceptable means of delivery for legal documents?

    Last I heard, said documents had to be sent registered mail (signature required) otherwise there were no grounds for claiming the person was not responding.

    Possibly, these litigation threat letters are not considered legal documents. In that case there is no recourse for the sender other than proceeding with a court case when no response is received.

    amirite? ... btw, ianal

     

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      Zakida Paul (profile), Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 7:56am

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      Very true. It's like the age old scam of sending an email claiming to be a bank looking to check account details. No reputable bank/company/lawyer would dare do this sort of business by email.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 6:44am

    Hey wait a minute...

    Aren't copyright trolls scammers by definition? Really, what's the difference besides the level of complexity to their scheme?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 12:11pm

    And apparently they must consider themselves guilty if they pay up.

    Scammers getting scammed. It's called karma.

     

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    S, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 5:02pm

    So what is the difference, in functional terms, between the scammers sending fallacious copyright extortion missives, and the lawyers sending fallacious copyright extortion missives?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 22nd, 2012 @ 6:50pm

    I am guessing there are a lot of people out there with a very guilty conscience. These things only work if people think they are somewhat legit, and that they have done something wrong.

    Sorry, but... SUCKERS!

     

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    That One Guy (profile), Mar 23rd, 2012 @ 5:37am

    Groovy, I can respond to two morons at once, serious time saver!

    In regards to the two AC's just above me who seem to think that anyone who actually paid must be guilty:

    Or perhaps they don't feel like potentially getting dragged through the court system, and paying thousands in lawyers fees, just to prove their innocence.

    Or do laughably clueless people like you honestly think that nobody innocent could ever be the target of a lawsuit/shakedown, and therefor anyone who paid to avoid the much more expensive court battle to prove their innocence was guilty?

     

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    wvhillbilly (profile), Apr 7th, 2012 @ 10:04am

    Mega-upload takedown

    If the government can take down Mega-Upload just because some poeple use it for infringement, let's apply the principle to any legal object that has potential criminal uses.

    Let's outlaw: Claw hammers, chain saws, screwdrivers, wrenches larger than 5/8 inch, rocks, sticks, axes, pickaxes, shovels, crowbars, not to mention guns, crossbows, bows & arrows (murder weapons) telephones (extortion, blackmail, various scams) cell phones (extortion, blackmail, scams, remote bomb detonators) the entire Internet (copyright infringement-Horrors!) cars, trucks, other motor vehicles (transport of drugs, cigarettes, getaway for bank robberies and other criminal activities) ...

    I could go on and on with this, but my point is, any and every legally useful object and device in the world has some potential criminal use someone can find for it. If we're going to outlaw everything that has some potential criminal use for it, there won't be much left. In fact we'll be just about back to the stone age, only without the sticks and stones (you can kill somebody with them, remember?).

    [Sarcasm]

     

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