by Mike Masnick

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copyright trolls, identities

comcast, verizon

Comcast, Verizon Ordered To ID Subscribers In Copyright Trolling Suit

from the shakedown-city dept

While we've seen plenty of judges recognize that copyright troll outfits suing a bunch of people at once for copyright infringement are really nothing more than a fishing expedition to identify people to be sent demand letters for payment, it appears a few judges still don't recognize how this is a serious abuse of the legal process. toyotabedzrock alerts us to the news that U.S. District Court Judge Alexander Williams in Maryland has ordered Comcast and Verizon to turn over names in two cases involving (of course) porn companies. What's even more ridiculous here is that Judge Williams should clearly recognize that these cases were almost certainly legal shakedowns, rather than actual cases, because one of the companies involved, Patrick Collins Inc, immediately dropped the case against one of the John Does sued because that defendant got himself a lawyer. If that doesn't indicate that the company doesn't actually want to fight these cases in court, but just wants to get the names to send demand letters, it's difficult to know what would convince the judge.

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 26 Oct 2011 @ 4:57pm

    While I detest this crap....

    1- The Judge might not be informed on what has happened to over 200,000 people in this country. I dunno how but it is possible.

    2- Not a single one of these Judges has demanded anything beyond the letter from the "expert" that the IP gathering software is perfect. As several of them are spin off firms from one German firm, it looks like a large ecosystem rather than 1 firm hedging against their methods being thrown out and sinking all cases.

    3- While I know its a scam, you know its a scam, the lawyers know its a scam they are still operating within the legal framework, in some cases the Judges are becoming aware but this knowledge does not seem to spread. See Evan Stone sanctions and the upcoming rule 11b smack down in the k-beech case.

    4- Until the DOJ wants to get off their ass and actually look into the extortion being done with the information gathered using the courts, we are screwed. This is the darkside of the copyright cartel. They must be right, they are being robbed blind by these bad people and we should help them out. They are suing 70 yr olds and blind people, FOR PORN... this really should raise some red flags.

    They have almost exhausted these cases here in the US, and now are moving onto Canada and Australia. There are scammer firms setup that are actively seeding files with embedded links to a "DRM server" where some people enter their information in the hopes of free porn and instead get a you stole and we can prove it now pay us $450 V/MC Welcome.

    And if you read TD with any regularity you know there is forthcoming copyright fix. They are trying to give the cartel more power and screw the people that much more. How much longer can this go on until we end up with more Occupy protests. The 1% declared war and now our elected officials at every level are showing who they answer to - See Occupy Oakland. To used tear gas, flash bangs, and injure citizens over fears for "public safety" when your the ones making it unsafe for citizens. One would think a Mayor would remember they can be pulled out of office but the people dumb enough to have put them there.

    But I digress....
    These cases are all still legally "permissible" because no one has managed to establish any case law stopping it. Mainly because Howell ruled Does have no standing until named, and they never name anyone who doesn't admit they did it.

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