DailyDirt: Do It Yourself Shopping -- Stores Without Employees?

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Maybe you've been to a store with the self-check-out lanes where you have to scan and bag your own groceries. Some stores have had success with this kind of self-serve technology, but others haven't. Still, brick and mortar stores need to try out different ways to be more convenient for shoppers in order to compete with same-day shipping from various online retailers. After you've finished checking out those links, take a look at our Daily Deals for cool gadgets and other awesome stuff.

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Mar 2016 @ 5:03pm

    A number of vending machine business got there start doing trust to pay candy boxes in office buildings.
    When asked to do the right thing, with no penalty or people watching over them, the majority of people are more likely to pay.
    It's kind of like the pay what you want model.

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      Anonymous Coward, 29 Mar 2016 @ 5:48pm

      Re:

      okay, so it works for bagels, donuts and candy... does it work for diamond rings or vinyl records?

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        Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Mar 2016 @ 6:28pm

        Re: Re:

        Depends...what is the price of value? What is the value of price? What value isn't artificial? What price isn't artificial?

        Even though the market determines price, markets differ. One decade says one price. Another decade says another. Which one is right? Is either right? Is there a difference in value in the different decades, or is there just a difference in price? Is the perceived value the same or is the price the same given inflation? Is a used car the same value as a round trip airplane ride even if they are the same price? Is value in the eye of the beholder? Is time a factor?

        Should all retailers trust the market to treat them fairly? Should all manufacturers? Should all service companies? Should government? What is the relative value between each of those?

        Hmm...

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    Paul Brinker, 29 Mar 2016 @ 6:21pm

    Who will have money if its all automated?

    Assume the worst, McDonalds goes 100% automated (the guy who loads the food hoppers once a week does not count). Where do people go for jobs next? And if McDonalds does it, then every fast food place will be forced to follow.

    This only ends with a ton of Jobless people and a bunch of automated fast food joints with no customers because you automated your customers out of jobs...

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      nasch (profile), 30 Mar 2016 @ 10:32am

      Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

      This only ends with a ton of Jobless people and a bunch of automated fast food joints with no customers because you automated your customers out of jobs...

      Now extend that to all driving and delivery jobs, warehouses, stocking, basically any relatively simple repetitive job. And that's just the first wave of automation. Eventually we'll be able to automate customer service, medicine*, management, construction... give it 100 years, and there will basically be no jobs in industrialized countries. Either that, or we will have burned our society to the ground because people can't eat and we failed to cope with the change.

      * presumably there will still be some people involved, until we can make robots indistinguishable from people

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        Anonymous Coward, 30 Mar 2016 @ 12:15pm

        Re: Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

        While automation might eliminate some jobs it won't eliminate all of them. Those business' who keep some employees likely will keep customers while any business who goes completely automated will have difficulty, especially if - and when - a machine malfunctions.

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          nasch (profile), 30 Mar 2016 @ 12:48pm

          Re: Re: Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

          At first, yes. But robots will get better, and people will get more used to them. Robots will get "good enough" for more and more jobs, and eventually as I mentioned you will literally not be able to tell if your waiter is human or a robot. I don't know if that's in 50 years or 250 years, but it's coming. Again, if we don't destroy ourselves over this or some other issue before we have the chance. And as for malfunctioning machines, there will be robots to come and fix them.

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      The Wanderer (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 7:04am

      Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

      When all needed services (including production) can be provided without employing people, that means there's no longer any need to require people to work in order to live.

      We may never actually get that far, for various reasons not excluding simple entropy - but at some point, you really do reach a point where it makes more sense to give everyone a basic income than to leave those who can't find work with nothing to live on.

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        nasch (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 7:23am

        Re: Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

        When all needed services (including production) can be provided without employing people, that means there's no longer any need to require people to work in order to live.

        Absolutely, the question is will we be able to make that fundamental shift in our society quickly enough? The changes to employment are coming (IMO), and the change from required work to citizen stipend or whatever it's called needs to start soon after or we're going to have major problems.

        Some think this revolution will be just like the previous ones, where more jobs are created than lost, but I don't see it that way. At best, there will be few or no menial jobs left, and our (speaking of the US) education and training systems are woefully inadequate to retrain menial workers for whatever high-skill, high-knowledge jobs remain. And even if we solved that somehow, and assumed that all those people are even capable of doing those jobs, there probably won't be enough of them for everyone.

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      John Fenderson (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 9:29am

      Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

      Are we really advocating McDonald's as source of realistic employment? If so, we're already well past doomed.

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        nasch (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 9:39am

        Re: Re: Who will have money if its all automated?

        Are we really advocating McDonald's as source of realistic employment?

        It's better than nothing, and the best many people can get. And yes, that's a serious problem. It used to be just teenagers worked at fast food and maybe a couple of managers, but now adults are competing with teens for these jobs because they can't find anything else that they're qualified for (either they're not qualified for anything or can't find a job in their field).

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    Ninja (profile), 30 Mar 2016 @ 4:23am

    In Sweden, a new grocery store (called Naraffar) doesn't have any cashiers and lets customers shop its aisles using a smartphone app

    I assume this specific grocery store doesn't work with Hollywood (shocked I tell you). It's too modern. And surely the pirates are plundering it empty.

    Ahem.

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