Industry Groups Back To 'Negotiating' Net Neutrality

from the consumer-groups?-not-present dept

Following Google and Verizon's announced framework for net neutrality (a framework that has no real meaning), the FCC announced that it was no longer holding closed door meetings with industry lobbyists, as they were not fostering the "robust framework to preserve the openness and freedom of the internet." No matter for those lobbyists. They'll just gather elsewhere, without the FCC and continue to hash out plans.

I'm reminded of Adam Smith's famous quote:
"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."
But, really, I'm trying to figure out what the purpose of these meetings really could be. After all, these companies coming to some form of an agreement doesn't mean a damn thing if the FCC decides to push forward with its own plans. So, the idea must be that some sort of voluntary industry agreement could mean that the FCC won't make certain rules official, but again that seems backwards. The industry shouldn't be colluding to set up rules -- especially without anyone representing consumers' interests (remember them?). Rather than all these industry lobbyists hashing out some sort of agreement that might not mean anything, shouldn't we just focus on making sure there's enough competition in the market that keeps the most egregious possible actions unthinkable by these companies? Is that so much to ask for?


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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 6:42pm

    I don't care if they come to any sort of agreement among themselves, so long as the legal system stops blocking competitors from entering the market. Then these people can be poor, have no assets, no influence, and agree amongst themselves to whatever meaningless agreement they want to and no one would care because it won't benefit them any nor will it affect anyone else.

     

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    out_of_the_blue, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 7:11pm

    Still a little hope that the FCC has enough integrity

    to actually regulate in public interest by ruling cable ISPs common carriers, and thereby for "net neutrality". Despite the worrying implications of those secret meetings, nothing alarming seems to be in the works.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 7:21pm

    Thank you Mike!

    I've been trying to remember what I always think of as the "Don't trust the merchants" quote from AS, and google has failed me (due to miserable retention on my part.)

     

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    Ryan, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 7:22pm

    Re: Still a little hope that the FCC has enough integrity

    I hope they have enough integrity to not make that power grab and subsequently burden an amazing frontier with regulations and favoritism that is decidedly not in the public interest.

    Actually, I know they don't; what I really hope is that it's not politically feasible for them to do so. My fear is that the longer this remains a public discussion regarding whether the government should or should not get involved and mess it up, the greater the temptation for glory-seeking politicians to adopt it as a cause celebre and insist on net "neutrality" - in which the rich and politically favored are more neutral than the rest.

     

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    TtfnJohn (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 7:40pm

    Re: Re: Still a little hope that the FCC has enough integrity

    Isn't that what Google and Verizon cooked up between them?

     

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    TtfnJohn (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 7:47pm

    Re: Still a little hope that the FCC has enough integrity

    The secret meetings are alarming enough in their own right. And I see no problem with cablecos becoming common carriers as long as they want to be telcos and deliver dial tone. Level playing field remember?

     

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    Christopher Sadoun, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 8:17pm

    Jesus Died for All
    1. 'Earthly Jerusalem Babel is not my Mother'
    2. There is no 'unforgivable sin'
    3. There is no 'handing people over to Satan'
    4. 'Heaven above is the Mother of us All'
    All go to Heaven


    Even while Jesus was dead





    Jesus Died for All
    1. 'Earthly Jerusalem Babel is not my Mother'
    (Bible, New Testament, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14)
    2. There is no 'unforgivable sin'
    (Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles, death, is blasphemy. So Jesus came to die all death and rupture death, Jesus died, Matthew 12:22-37 and Gospel)
    3. There is no 'handing people over to Satan'
    (Pharisees like to crucify people and say they go to Hell, Jesus says for not all to Go to Heaven is Blasphemy, 1 Corinthians 5:5 and Gospel)
    4. 'Heaven above is the Mother of us All'
    (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    All go to Heaven
    (All are forgiven)
    (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30)




    Even while Jesus was dead


    Beware of earthly Jerusalem Bible Babel. Jesus died for All
    Beware of the Ghetto's Ghetto Babel. All are forgiven.
    Beware of the Gospel as told by Babel. All go to Heaven.


    "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod." (Bible, New Testament, Mark 8:15)

    All go to Heaven

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 8:19pm

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    What the heck?

     

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    DigThatFunk(Scottie V) (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 8:57pm

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    WTF are you on about, dude? First of all, Jesus died because he had a shitty friend(named Judas), and second of all, I didn't ask him to do jack for me, so, any laws "he" or "his father" would implement upon me, are insignificant. Second, this is a TECH news site. Go preach on your soapbox somewhere they care.

     

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    handheldcar (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 9:45pm

    Nice quote, the FCC isn't the best authority on net neutrality though probably better than Google and Verizon.

     

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    Xenu, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 10:16pm

    The Cable Company's premium channel concept

    What was dreamed about in the late 1990s can be possible today, but putting in a tiered system will be like going back to the days of AOL and CompuServe when you'd pay $25 for ten hours of online time a month. Remember those days when you ran through a maze and find things you want to learn, only to ultimately end at a tollbooth asking for a credit card number...?

    Lots of fun.

     

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    Christopher Sadoun, Aug 18th, 2010 @ 11:16pm

    Jesus Died for All
    1. 'Earthly Jerusalem Babel is not my Mother'
    2. There is no 'unforgivable sin'
    3. There is no 'handing people over to Satan'
    4. 'Heaven above is the Mother of us All'
    All go to Heaven


    Even while Jesus was dead





    Jesus Died for All
    1. 'Earthly Jerusalem Babel is not my Mother'
    (Bible, New Testament, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14)
    2. There is no 'unforgivable sin'
    (Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles is blasphemy. Jesus said Is Jesus being forgiving while the Holly Spirit is not, the Holly spirit is doing miracles, he is forgiving. The Holly spirit You Pharisees speak of is not forgiving, it does not do miracles. This is what you said of it. Any blasphemy against will not be forgiven. If you do not wash your hands for it you have blasphemed it. If you do not polish your cup, you have blasphemed it. If you do not give a tenth of your dill and spices you have blasphemed it. If you do not do your Pharisee act as you do you have blasphemed it. Jesus was banished along with his good Spirit on the Cross. One miracle done by Jesus was to the Bad Spirit blasphemy. And Jesus ended up on the cross crucified and dead. Matthew 12:22-37 Luke 23:46 and Gospel)
    3. There is no 'handing people over to Satan'
    (Pharisees like to crucify people and say they go to Hell, Jesus says for not all to Go to Heaven is Blasphemy, 1 Corinthians 5:5 and Gospel)
    4. 'Heaven above is the Mother of us All'
    (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    All go to Heaven
    (All are forgiven)
    (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30)




    Even while Jesus was dead


    Beware of earthly Jerusalem Bible Babel. Jesus died for All
    Beware of the Ghetto's Ghetto Babel. All are forgiven.
    Beware of the Gospel as told by Babel. All go to Heaven.


    "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod." (Bible, New Testament, Mark 8:15)

    All go to Heaven

     

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    Atkray (profile), Aug 18th, 2010 @ 11:48pm

    "Is that so much to ask for?"

    Yes.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 19th, 2010 @ 5:31am

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    Do you truly believe copy/pasting the same quote over and over again is witnessing?

    Christian better, dude.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Aug 19th, 2010 @ 6:30am

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    Oh God, it's the march of the spammers.

     

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    abc gum, Aug 19th, 2010 @ 6:33am

    blog spammers are out in force

     

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    Aaron, Aug 19th, 2010 @ 8:08am

    Trust the FCC?

    Why do all of you put faith in an institution that is not accountable to us in any way (other than being directed by a new administration that only changes every 4 years at the earliest)? At least Verizon, AT&T, Google, other corporations, etc. are held accountable in one important way: the dollar. If they implement policies that I don't like I can switch providers or stop paying. If the service I pay for now becomes less valuable to me I can stop paying or choose to pay less. The FCC on the other hand can do whatever it wants to (claiming to be in the interest of the consumer) and if I don't like it well I'm screwed. I'd have to move to another country...

     

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    Michael, Aug 19th, 2010 @ 9:29am

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    Thanks.

    I feel much better about my life knowing that I'm not you.

     

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    John D. (profile), Aug 19th, 2010 @ 12:50pm

    Fascism

    Those who are variously referred to as progressives, globalists, socialists, and the "New World Order", among other less polite things, have belatedly recognized the threat the web represents to their agenda, and they are now trying to correct that error. Like it or not, this cabal of industrialists and polititians will succeed, because they own the hardware. They own all the devices that make up the internet's backbone, and they control who gets access to it, so they can set the rules.

    I still say we, the little people, need to start building Internet 3.0. I have no idea what form it can take, probably some sort of decentralized WAN, but I do know that if we want a truly neutral 'net, we have to control the hardware.

     

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    John D. (profile), Aug 19th, 2010 @ 12:54pm

    Re: Fascism

    Oops, sorry. Politicians.

     

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    Richard Bennett (profile), Aug 19th, 2010 @ 2:57pm

    Super-Secret Probationary Negotiations

    These not-so-secret negotiations are taking place at ITIC, an industry group that has members on all sides of the open Internet/net neutrality/Web vs. Internet issue, so it's not really sensible to view them as monopolists looking to carve up a market, but I realize some people will do that anyway.

    They're not really about the FCC, they're about the pending Congressional action that will clarify the FCC's role regarding Internet regulation.

    Contrary to the web's conspiracy theories, the issues around the open Internet controversy have less to do with web sites than with enabling new applications on the Internet that need real-time behavior from ISPs.

    As the Internet said to the net neutrality movement, "It's not you, it's me."

     

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    Christopher Sadoun, Aug 20th, 2010 @ 9:41pm

    All go to Heaven is a Trust worthy saying. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.

    All go to Heaven
    Commentary
    Bible, Luke 23:34 John 19:30
    We are in Christ's Forgiveness. We are in His word. We are in Christ. We are in Christ's forgiveness statement. "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Them includes me, you, and all son's of Adam and daughters of Eve. The people, who some say do not know Christ, are forgiven too. They could be called they who know not what they do. They could be called they who know not. Jesus will take them to Heaven. All go to Heaven.
    There is no unforgivable Sin. There is no Handing a person over to Satan. All are forgiven. All go to Heaven.


    There is no Unforgivable Sin
    Commentary
    Bible, Matthew 12:22-37
    There is no unforgivable sin. Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles is blasphemy. Jesus said is Jesus being forgiving while the Holly Spirit is not, the Holly spirit is doing miracles, he is forgiving. The Holly spirit You Pharisees speak of is not forgiving, it does not do miracles. This is what you said of it. Any blasphemy against it will not be forgiven. If you do not wash your hands for it you have blasphemed it. If you do not polish your cup, you have blasphemed it. If you do not give a tenth of your dill and spices you have blasphemed it. If you do not do your Pharisee act as you do you have blasphemed it. Jesus was banished along with his good Spirit on the Cross. One miracle done by Jesus was to the Bad Spirit blasphemy. And Jesus ended up on the cross crucified and dead. Bible, New Testament, Matthew 12:22-37 Luke 23:46 and Gospel
    "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." (Bible, New Testament, Philippians 1:6)
    It is well with my soul. (Bible, New Testament, 3 John 1:2)
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 2:8-9)
    "These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. " (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    Anything unforgiveness tears up the Gospel.
    Jesus Christ came to give a God amount of Forgiveness.





    There is no Handing a person over to Satan
    Commentary
    BIble, 1 Timothy 1:20
    No one can fight a good fight only Jesus can save. IT is not that we hold Jesus it is that Jesus holds us. Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. And so Jesus gives us these things and becomes our Noah's Arc that he alone keeps from sinking. Hymenaus and Alexander were like Saul who became Paul. Paul handed them to Jesus. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Paul Rescued Hymenaus and Alexander from the Pharisees and said to the Church that put the Pharisee in the Pulpit that the Pharisees, The False Teachers were actually taking people away from Gospel and handing them to Law and death and Satan.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)
    Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "He leads the captives forth in his train." We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil.

    There is no Handing a Person over to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Corintihians 5:5
    A church put a pharisee in the pulpit as a Pastor. The Pharisee only preached about lying, cheating, and stealing. And never about Jesus forgiving all sin of all time and giving all people and individuals Heaven. Then the legal demands became heavy sacks of sand and people fell to satan. The Adulterer like the woman who Jesus saved from being stoned was all ready handed to satan. To be set free from the power of death and sin one is handed to Jesus who forgives and lifts to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Satan will not teach you anything. "Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10)
    "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?" (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 3:2)
    Satan will take away your clear mind and self control and puppet you to lie cheat and steal.


    Pharisees like to crucify people and say they are going to Hell. Jesus on the cross said "Father forgive them"… "it is Finished." (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Jesus forgave all. Then He died. All were forgiven while Jesus was dead. Even the people who only believed he was dead were forgiven. All go to Heaven. All are forgiven. Even while Jesus Christ was dead. The Gospel of Jesus's death is the same Gospel today. Those who never saw, smelled, tasted touched, or heard of Jesus are all forgiven. Even in his absence. Even in his death. Even if they only see his death. Even if they only see his Absence. They are all forgiven. All go to Heaven. Other wise Holy Jesus is in the Habit of handing people over to Satan. And Holly Jesus is preached as unholly unforgiving. And the New Testament came by a old covenant method which means it is old covenant, Hebrews 8:13 and that is why there is so much unforgiveness in the New Testament.
    One meets the Old covenant in the New Testament like a wall and a firey black thing but that does not leave the old covenant uncanceled. But that does not mean the old covenant is no longer canceled. Not canceled.
    The New Testament does not replace the death of Christ. Or exchange the death of Christ for the New Testament. The New Testament is supposed to follow suit with and support that Jesus forgave all on the cross and then died. It should not talk unforgiveness, do a pharisee's way of life, or hand a person to satan. It should be clear so You can peer into it. Nothing in it should look down on you. ""See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 18:10) Nothing in it should look down on you. All are forgiven. Jesus put all above his very own life. The entire New Testament is the Hand a Person to Satan unforgivable Sin Catch phrase. And to peer into it without the catch phrase. To peer into it with the catch phrase fallen away like the white Ribbon that says kills that is draped over a big heart. All go to Heaven. All see the big Heart. The ribbon can not cover it completely, only a little. Heaven above is the mother of us all. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26) And will give every person there Michael Gabriel Tropical flying Saucers of fire and of fire. Miracles galore, Narnias and communion. Jesus forgives all and carries all to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin. There is no unforgiven sin. We walk in a land of Forgiven sin and forgiven Men. Jesus's death appeases.



    There is no Handing a Person to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Timothy 3
    All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. The devil wanted all people reproached by the law and with him in Hell. No one is reproachable. Jesus died for all. Jesus will not look down on you or reproach you. "Do not fear the reproach of men." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 51:7) The reproach of the devil will flee. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. Jesus will manage for each person. "But the the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked his faith is counted as righteousness" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 4:5 KJV, NIV) "The lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14) The lord's provision will take care of God's Church. Only Jesus can take care of the Church. Jesus alone is Savior. Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 4:8) He takes all to Heaven, he captures them, he forgave them all. By forgiving all the devil can no longer have him. Jesus died. All are captured from the devil even while Jesus was dead. All go to Heaven. We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil. "He shall bruise" (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 3:15) the serpents head. The pharisees are the ones who were looking for reputation with outsiders. They would go to the Kings. The would "cross land and sea to make one convert." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) And when they persuaded them of rules and regulations they would make them "twice a son of hell" (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) as they are. The Pharisees had reputation. There is no such thing as reputation. Reputation is the devils label. There is no disgrace. Jesus will never leave or forsake me you or anyone. The devils trap, Psychology, is the devils downfall. "Have no fear o little flock though the foes farce battle shock loud on all sides assail you. Though at your fall they laugh secure there triumph can not long endure let not your courage fail you." (Missouri Lutheran Blue Hymnal - Hymn 300 - Have no Fear oh little flock) "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints." (Bible, Psalm 116:15) Power is perfected in weakness.
    All men get grace and miracles not out of being worthy of respect or there own effort. Sincerity is a Pharisee's word. Jesus died for all amidst all feeling. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. People do not keep hold of truth. The Truth keeps hold of us and will set us free. "The truth will set you free." (Bible, New Testament, John 8:32) Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. Pharisees were testing Jesus all through his ministry. "No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest." (Bible, New Testament, Hebrews 8:11) Do not call any one Teacher for You have one teacher, Jesus Christ. "Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10) Do not call anyone Father for you have one Father Jesus Christ. "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. " (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:9) Because of Jesus, nothing can be against any body. God is for every person. " If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 8:31) No weapon formed against you me or anyone will prosper. " No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 54:17) Pharisees would look to ranks of the Pharisees word respect in a persons wife. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. If there is any good it is from Christ. Christ is with you me and anyone in everything. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus will manage. Not by strength or might but by my spirit says the Lord. "Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." (Bible, Old Testament, Zechariah 4:6) "The Lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14)
    Any lack of assurance of salvation comes from the devil. We do not buy our salvation and its assurance of salvation, with deeds. That is what the Devil has the Pharisees do. There is no unforgivable sin. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.
    Sin ceasing the opportunity afforded by the commandment sprang to life. "But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead." (Bible, New Testament, Romans 7:8) So telling people how to behave Is and was the catch phrase. That is what the Pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Jesus is the foundation for the Church. The church is built upon Jesus. Jesus is the way and the truth and the life. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life." (Bible, New Testament, 14:6) It is because Jesus Forgave All while he was on the Cross dying. And that All are forgiven while Jesus was dead. That all through Jesus Go to Heaven. Saying the Church is a big organization like the Pope does, is to say the church is an earthy Jerusalem Babel who built the tower. The pope has built a big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. When Jesus came down to all people and walked the earth and brought us up to him. And listens to our prayers continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills falling off of it. The bible says this at the end of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
    "Beyond all question, the mystery of Godliness is great:
    He appeared in a body,
    was vindicated by the spirit,
    was seen by angels,
    was preached among the nations,
    was believed on in the world,
    was taken up in glory."

    We are built in the image of Christ. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 1:27) Earthly Jerusalem Babel will try to babel up the fact that we are made in the image of Christ. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14) And make it A hard to figure out mystery. When really we are forgiven it is finished. (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) The pope has built a Great Great Great big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. While Jesus came down to all people (He appeared in a Body) and walked the earth (was vindicated by the spirit) and brought us up to him (Was seen by angels, took away the white ribbon that says kills and went to heaven). And he listens to prayer where ever it may be continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills away off of it.

    People are believers by nature. All are in Christ even as Jesus forgave all while on the Cross. All are forgiven even while Jesus was dead. Adam and Eve and all people in the times of B.C are forgiven. All people in the times of A.D. are forgiven.

    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)

    If some one weak is put in the pulpit. If someone weak is preaching that is all the better. They would have the testimony of Paul. Saul of tarsus who persecuted the Church was put in the pulpit, position, Pastor by Christ and by him named Paul. In fact 1 Timothy 3 is the Trust worthy saying Catch Phrase that says all are Pastors. All are priests. All are chosesn. Each person is a Holy Nation.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    I am weak God is Strong. Yes Jesus loves me.

    I am weak and can only Mew.

    Let Jesus's Miracles be my food.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my chariots.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my House.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my galore
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Narnias
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Communion
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Gifts
    Jesus is My Life. So Jesus is my Living.
    Life is Living. Living is Life.

    Jesus is the Gospel. The Gospel is Jesus.

    I have been given new life.

    I received it from the Gospel.
    I received it from Christ.

    "in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (Bible, New Testament, 2 Corinthians 5:17)

    The same for You.

    Life is a construction of Miracles.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    A persons living declares the praises of him who called Myself and all people out of darkness into his wonderful light. So all people preach the gospel, this way or that. Like all can see the heart when the White ribbon with the word kills on it falls away or is taken taken away. The Heart can be seen with the ribbon on it anyways, it does not cover the whole heart.

    "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Corinthians 9:14)

    It is impossible for there to be no miracles.

    Drinking chocolate Ensure, and eating chocolate Ensure dumplings as ones only food, speaks of Christmas, Santa Clause, and Christ.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.

     

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    Christopher Sadoun, Aug 20th, 2010 @ 11:20pm

    The BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader starts out with this.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for you. You will go to Heaven.

    All go to Heaven
    Commentary
    Bible, Luke 23:34 John 19:30
    We are in Christ's Forgiveness. We are in His word. We are in Christ. We are in Christ's forgiveness statement. "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Them includes me, you, and all son's of Adam and daughters of Eve. The people, who some say do not know Christ, are forgiven too. They could be called they who know not what they do. They could be called they who know not. Jesus will take them to Heaven. All go to Heaven.
    There is no unforgivable Sin. There is no Handing a person over to Satan. All are forgiven. All go to Heaven.


    There is no Unforgivable Sin
    Commentary
    Bible, Matthew 12:22-37
    There is no unforgivable sin. Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles is blasphemy. Jesus said is Jesus being forgiving while the Holly Spirit is not, the Holly spirit is doing miracles, he is forgiving. The Holly spirit You Pharisees speak of is not forgiving, it does not do miracles. This is what you said of it. Any blasphemy against it will not be forgiven. If you do not wash your hands for it you have blasphemed it. If you do not polish your cup, you have blasphemed it. If you do not give a tenth of your dill and spices you have blasphemed it. If you do not do your Pharisee act as you do you have blasphemed it. Jesus was banished along with his good Spirit on the Cross. One miracle done by Jesus was to the Bad Spirit blasphemy. And Jesus ended up on the cross crucified and dead. Bible, New Testament, Matthew 12:22-37 Luke 23:46 and Gospel
    "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." (Bible, New Testament, Philippians 1:6)
    It is well with my soul. (Bible, New Testament, 3 John 1:2)
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 2:8-9)
    "These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. " (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    Anything unforgiveness tears up the Gospel.
    Jesus Christ came to give a God amount of Forgiveness.





    There is no Handing a person over to Satan
    Commentary
    BIble, 1 Timothy 1:20
    No one can fight a good fight only Jesus can save. IT is not that we hold Jesus it is that Jesus holds us. Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. And so Jesus gives us these things and becomes our Noah's Arc that he alone keeps from sinking. Hymenaus and Alexander were like Saul who became Paul. Paul handed them to Jesus. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Paul Rescued Hymenaus and Alexander from the Pharisees and said to the Church that put the Pharisee in the Pulpit that the Pharisees, The False Teachers were actually taking people away from Gospel and handing them to Law and death and Satan.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)
    Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "He leads the captives forth in his train." We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil.

    There is no Handing a Person over to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Corintihians 5:5
    A church put a pharisee in the pulpit as a Pastor. The Pharisee only preached about lying, cheating, and stealing. And never about Jesus forgiving all sin of all time and giving all people and individuals Heaven. Then the legal demands became heavy sacks of sand and people fell to satan. The Adulterer like the woman who Jesus saved from being stoned was all ready handed to satan. To be set free from the power of death and sin one is handed to Jesus who forgives and lifts to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Satan will not teach you anything. "Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10)
    "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?" (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 3:2)
    Satan will take away your clear mind and self control and puppet you to lie cheat and steal.


    Pharisees like to crucify people and say they are going to Hell. Jesus on the cross said "Father forgive them"… "it is Finished." (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Jesus forgave all. Then He died. All were forgiven while Jesus was dead. Even the people who only believed he was dead were forgiven. All go to Heaven. All are forgiven. Even while Jesus Christ was dead. The Gospel of Jesus's death is the same Gospel today. Those who never saw, smelled, tasted touched, or heard of Jesus are all forgiven. Even in his absence. Even in his death. Even if they only see his death. Even if they only see his Absence. They are all forgiven. All go to Heaven. Other wise Holy Jesus is in the Habit of handing people over to unHolly Satan. And Holly Jesus is preached as unholly unforgiving. And the New Testament came by a old covenant method which means it is old covenant, Hebrews 8:13 and that is why there is so much unforgiveness in the New Testament.
    One meets the Old covenant in the New Testament like a wall and a firey black thing but that does not leave the old covenant uncanceled. But that does not mean the old covenant is no longer canceled. Not canceled.
    The New Testament does not replace the death of Christ. Or exchange the death of Christ for the New Testament. The New Testament is supposed to follow suit with and support that Jesus forgave all on the cross and then died. It should not talk unforgiveness, do a pharisee's way of life, or hand a person to satan. It should be clear so You can peer into it. Nothing in it should look down on you. ""See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 18:10) Nothing in it should look down on you. All are forgiven. Jesus put all above his very own life. The entire New Testament is the Hand a Person to Satan unforgivable Sin Catch phrase. And to peer into it without the catch phrase. To peer into it with the catch phrase fallen away like the white Ribbon that says kills that is draped over a big heart. All go to Heaven. All see the big Heart. The ribbon can not cover it completely, only a little. Heaven above is the mother of us all. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26) And will give every person there Michael Gabriel Tropical flying Saucers of fire and of fire. Miracles galore, Narnias and communion. Jesus forgives all and carries all to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin. There is no unforgiven sin. We walk in a land of Forgiven sin and forgiven Men. Jesus's death appeases, For Jesus not to take all to Heaven would mean that Jesus has blasphemed himself, and given in to Satan.


    There is no Handing a Person to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Timothy 3
    All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. The devil wanted all people reproached by the law and with him in Hell. No one is reproachable. Jesus died for all. Jesus will not look down on you or reproach you. "Do not fear the reproach of men." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 51:7) The reproach of the devil will flee. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. Jesus will manage for each person. "But the the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked his faith is counted as righteousness" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 4:5 KJV, NIV) "The lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14) The lord's provision will take care of God's Church. Only Jesus can take care of the Church. Jesus alone is Savior. Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 4:8) He takes all to Heaven, he captures them, he forgave them all. By forgiving all the devil can no longer have him. Jesus died. All are captured from the devil even while Jesus was dead. All go to Heaven. We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil. "He shall bruise" (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 3:15) the serpents head. The pharisees are the ones who were looking for reputation with outsiders. They would go to the Kings. The would "cross land and sea to make one convert." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) And when they persuaded them of rules and regulations they would make them "twice a son of hell" (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) as they are. The Pharisees had reputation. There is no such thing as reputation. Reputation is the devils label. There is no disgrace. Jesus will never leave or forsake me you or anyone. The devils trap, Psychology, is the devils downfall. "Have no fear o little flock though the foes farce battle shock loud on all sides assail you. Though at your fall they laugh secure there triumph can not long endure let not your courage fail you." (Missouri Lutheran Blue Hymnal - Hymn 300 - Have no Fear oh little flock) "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints." (Bible, Psalm 116:15) Power is perfected in weakness.
    All men get grace and miracles not out of being worthy of respect or there own effort. Sincerity is a Pharisee's word. Jesus died for all amidst all feeling. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. People do not keep hold of truth. The Truth keeps hold of us and will set us free. "The truth will set you free." (Bible, New Testament, John 8:32) Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. Pharisees were testing Jesus all through his ministry. "No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest." (Bible, New Testament, Hebrews 8:11) Do not call any one Teacher for You have one teacher, Jesus Christ. "Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10) Do not call anyone Father for you have one Father Jesus Christ. "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. " (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:9) Because of Jesus, nothing can be against any body. God is for every person. " If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 8:31) No weapon formed against you me or anyone will prosper. " No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 54:17) Pharisees would look to ranks of the Pharisees word respect in a persons wife. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. If there is any good it is from Christ. Christ is with you me and anyone in everything. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus will manage. Not by strength or might but by my spirit says the Lord. "Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." (Bible, Old Testament, Zechariah 4:6) "The Lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14)
    Any lack of assurance of salvation comes from the devil. We do not buy our salvation and its assurance of salvation, with deeds. That is what the Devil has the Pharisees do. There is no unforgivable sin. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.
    Sin ceasing the opportunity afforded by the commandment sprang to life. "But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead." (Bible, New Testament, Romans 7:8) So telling people how to behave Is and was the catch phrase. That is what the Pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Jesus is the foundation for the Church. The church is built upon Jesus. Jesus is the way and the truth and the life. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life." (Bible, New Testament, 14:6) It is because Jesus Forgave All while he was on the Cross dying. And that All are forgiven while Jesus was dead. That all through Jesus Go to Heaven. Saying the Church is a big organization like the Pope does, is to say the church is an earthy Jerusalem Babel who built the tower. The pope has built a big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. When Jesus came down to all people and walked the earth and brought us up to him. And listens to our prayers continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills falling off of it. The bible says this at the end of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
    "Beyond all question, the mystery of Godliness is great:
    He appeared in a body,
    was vindicated by the spirit,
    was seen by angels,
    was preached among the nations,
    was believed on in the world,
    was taken up in glory."

    We are built in the image of Christ. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 1:27) Earthly Jerusalem Babel will try to babel up the fact that we are made in the image of Christ. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14) And make it A hard to figure out mystery. When really we are forgiven it is finished. (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) The pope has built a Great Great Great big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. While Jesus came down to all people (He appeared in a Body) and walked the earth (was vindicated by the spirit) and brought us up to him (Was seen by angels, took away the white ribbon that says kills and went to heaven). And he listens to prayer where ever it may be continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills away off of it.

    People are believers by nature. All are in Christ even as Jesus forgave all while on the Cross. All are forgiven even while Jesus was dead. Adam and Eve and all people in the times of B.C are forgiven. All people in the times of A.D. are forgiven.

    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)

    If some one weak is put in the pulpit. If someone weak is preaching that is all the better. They would have the testimony of Paul. Saul of tarsus who persecuted the Church was put in the pulpit, position, Pastor by Christ and by him named Paul. In fact 1 Timothy 3 is the Trust worthy saying Catch Phrase that says all are Pastors. All are priests. All are chosesn. Each person is a Holy Nation.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    I am weak God is Strong. Yes Jesus loves me.

    I am weak and can only Mew.

    Let Jesus's Miracles be my food.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my chariots.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my House.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my galore
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Narnias
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Communion
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Gifts
    Jesus is My Life. So Jesus is my Living.
    Life is Living. Living is Life.

    Jesus is the Gospel. The Gospel is Jesus.

    I have been given new life.

    I received it from the Gospel.
    I received it from Christ.

    "in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (Bible, New Testament, 2 Corinthians 5:17)

    The same for You.

    Life is a construction of Miracles.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    A persons living declares the praises of him who called Myself and all people out of darkness into his wonderful light. So all people preach the gospel, this way or that. Like all can see the heart when the White ribbon with the word kills on it falls away or is taken taken away. The Heart can be seen with the ribbon on it anyways, it does not cover the whole heart.

    "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Corinthians 9:14)

    It is impossible for there to be no miracles.

    Drinking chocolate Ensure, and eating chocolate Ensure dumplings as ones only food, speaks of Christmas, Santa Clause, and Christ.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.

    If anything says otherwise. And it is Satan who says otherwise. Turn upside down the Tables on Satan. There is no Unforgivable sin, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, There is no handing a person over to Satan, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, All go to Heaven. There are five Satanic tables to be turned in the New testament. Practice Tables. In the BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the dawn treader movie starts out with a tables being turned.

     

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    Christopher Sadoun, Aug 21st, 2010 @ 12:51am

    The BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader starts out with this.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for you. You will go to Heaven.

    All go to Heaven
    Commentary
    Bible, Luke 23:34 John 19:30
    We are in Christ's Forgiveness. We are in His word. We are in Christ. We are in Christ's forgiveness statement. "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Them includes me, you, and all son's of Adam and daughters of Eve. The people, who some say do not know Christ, are forgiven too. They could be called they who know not what they do. They could be called they who know not. Jesus will take them to Heaven. All go to Heaven.
    There is no unforgivable Sin. There is no Handing a person over to Satan. All are forgiven. All go to Heaven.


    There is no Unforgivable Sin
    Commentary
    Bible, Matthew 12:22-37
    There is no unforgivable sin. Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles is blasphemy. Jesus said is Jesus being forgiving while the Holly Spirit is not, the Holly spirit is doing miracles, he is forgiving. The Holly spirit You Pharisees speak of is not forgiving, it does not do miracles. This is what you said of it. Any blasphemy against it will not be forgiven. If you do not wash your hands for it you have blasphemed it. If you do not polish your cup, you have blasphemed it. If you do not give a tenth of your dill and spices you have blasphemed it. If you do not do your Pharisee act as you do you have blasphemed it. Jesus was banished along with his good Spirit on the Cross. One miracle done by Jesus was to the Bad Spirit blasphemy. And Jesus ended up on the cross crucified and dead. Bible, New Testament, Matthew 12:22-37 Luke 23:46 and Gospel
    "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." (Bible, New Testament, Philippians 1:6)
    It is well with my soul. (Bible, New Testament, 3 John 1:2)
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 2:8-9)
    "These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. " (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    Anything unforgiveness tears up the Gospel.
    Jesus Christ came to give a God amount of Forgiveness.





    There is no Handing a person over to Satan
    Commentary
    BIble, 1 Timothy 1:20
    No one can fight a good fight only Jesus can save. IT is not that we hold Jesus it is that Jesus holds us. Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. And so Jesus gives us these things and becomes our Noah's Arc that he alone keeps from sinking. Hymenaus and Alexander were like Saul who became Paul. Paul handed them to Jesus. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Paul Rescued Hymenaus and Alexander from the Pharisees and said to the Church that put the Pharisee in the Pulpit that the Pharisees, The False Teachers were actually taking people away from Gospel and handing them to Law and death and Satan.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)
    Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "He leads the captives forth in his train." We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil.

    There is no Handing a Person over to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Corintihians 5:5
    A church put a pharisee in the pulpit as a Pastor. The Pharisee only preached about lying, cheating, and stealing. And never about Jesus forgiving all sin of all time and giving all people and individuals Heaven. Then the legal demands became heavy sacks of sand and people fell to satan. The Adulterer like the woman who Jesus saved from being stoned was all ready handed to satan. To be set free from the power of death and sin one is handed to Jesus who forgives and lifts to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Satan will not teach you anything. "Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10)
    "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?" (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 3:2)
    Satan will take away your clear mind and self control and puppet you to lie cheat and steal.


    Pharisees like to crucify people and say they are going to Hell. Jesus on the cross said "Father forgive them"… "it is Finished." (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Jesus forgave all. Then He died. All were forgiven while Jesus was dead. Even the people who only believed he was dead were forgiven. All go to Heaven. All are forgiven. Even while Jesus Christ was dead. The Gospel of Jesus's death is the same Gospel today. Those who never saw, smelled, tasted touched, or heard of Jesus are all forgiven. Even in his absence. Even in his death. Even if they only see his death. Even if they only see his Absence. They are all forgiven. All go to Heaven. Other wise Holy Jesus is in the Habit of handing people over to unHolly Satan. And Holly Jesus is preached as unholly unforgiving. And the New Testament came by a old covenant method which means it is old covenant, Hebrews 8:13 and that is why there is so much unforgiveness in the New Testament.
    One meets the Old covenant in the New Testament like a wall and a firey black thing but that does not leave the old covenant uncanceled. But that does not mean the old covenant is no longer canceled. Not canceled.
    The New Testament does not replace the death of Christ. Or exchange the death of Christ for the New Testament. The New Testament is supposed to follow suit with and support that Jesus forgave all on the cross and then died. It should not talk unforgiveness, do a pharisee's way of life, or hand a person to satan. It should be clear so You can peer into it. Nothing in it should look down on you. ""See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 18:10) Nothing in it should look down on you. All are forgiven. Jesus put all above his very own life. The entire New Testament is the Hand a Person to Satan unforgivable Sin Catch phrase. And to peer into it without the catch phrase. To peer into it with the catch phrase fallen away like the white Ribbon that says kills that is draped over a big heart. All go to Heaven. All see the big Heart. The ribbon can not cover it completely, only a little. Heaven above is the mother of us all. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26) And will give every person there Michael Gabriel Tropical flying Saucers of fire and of fire. (Bible, Old Testament, Daniel 10:13) "Take ye the spoil of silver, take the spoil of gold: for there is none end of the store and glory out of all the pleasant furniture." (Bible, Old Testament, Nahum 2:9) "4 The chariots storm through the streets, rushing back and forth through the squares. They look like flaming torches; they dart about like lightning." (Bible, Nahum 2:4) Miracles galore, Narnias and communion. Jesus forgives all and carries all to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin. There is no unforgiven sin. We walk in a land of Forgiven sin and forgiven Men. Jesus's death appeases, For Jesus not to take all to Heaven would mean that Jesus has blasphemed himself, and given in to Satan.


    There is no Handing a Person to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Timothy 3
    All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. The devil wanted all people reproached by the law and with him in Hell. No one is reproachable. Jesus died for all. Jesus will not look down on you or reproach you. "Do not fear the reproach of men." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 51:7) The reproach of the devil will flee. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. Jesus will manage for each person. "But the the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked his faith is counted as righteousness" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 4:5 KJV, NIV) "The lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14) The lord's provision will take care of God's Church. Only Jesus can take care of the Church. Jesus alone is Savior. Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 4:8) He takes all to Heaven, he captures them, he forgave them all. By forgiving all the devil can no longer have him. Jesus died. All are captured from the devil even while Jesus was dead. All go to Heaven. We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil. "He shall bruise" (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 3:15) the serpents head. The pharisees are the ones who were looking for reputation with outsiders. They would go to the Kings. The would "cross land and sea to make one convert." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) And when they persuaded them of rules and regulations they would make them "twice a son of hell" (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) as they are. The Pharisees had reputation. There is no such thing as reputation. Reputation is the devils label. There is no disgrace. Jesus will never leave or forsake me you or anyone. The devils trap, Psychology, is the devils downfall. "Have no fear o little flock though the foes farce battle shock loud on all sides assail you. Though at your fall they laugh secure there triumph can not long endure let not your courage fail you." (Missouri Lutheran Blue Hymnal - Hymn 300 - Have no Fear oh little flock) "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints." (Bible, Psalm 116:15) Power is perfected in weakness.
    All men get grace and miracles not out of being worthy of respect or there own effort. Sincerity is a Pharisee's word. Jesus died for all amidst all feeling. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. People do not keep hold of truth. The Truth keeps hold of us and will set us free. "The truth will set you free." (Bible, New Testament, John 8:32) Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. Pharisees were testing Jesus all through his ministry. "No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest." (Bible, New Testament, Hebrews 8:11) Do not call any one Teacher for You have one teacher, Jesus Christ. "Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10) Do not call anyone Father for you have one Father Jesus Christ. "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. " (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:9) Because of Jesus, nothing can be against any body. God is for every person. " If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 8:31) No weapon formed against you me or anyone will prosper. " No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 54:17) Pharisees would look to ranks of the Pharisees word respect in a persons wife. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. If there is any good it is from Christ. Christ is with you me and anyone in everything. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus will manage. Not by strength or might but by my spirit says the Lord. "Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." (Bible, Old Testament, Zechariah 4:6) "The Lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14)
    Any lack of assurance of salvation comes from the devil. We do not buy our salvation and its assurance of salvation, with deeds. That is what the Devil has the Pharisees do. There is no unforgivable sin. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.
    Sin ceasing the opportunity afforded by the commandment sprang to life. "But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead." (Bible, New Testament, Romans 7:8) So telling people how to behave Is and was the catch phrase. That is what the Pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Jesus is the foundation for the Church. The church is built upon Jesus. Jesus is the way and the truth and the life. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life." (Bible, New Testament, 14:6) It is because Jesus Forgave All while he was on the Cross dying. And that All are forgiven while Jesus was dead. That all through Jesus Go to Heaven. Saying the Church is a big organization like the Pope does, is to say the church is an earthy Jerusalem Babel who built the tower. The pope has built a big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. When Jesus came down to all people and walked the earth and brought us up to him. And listens to our prayers continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills falling off of it. The bible says this at the end of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
    "Beyond all question, the mystery of Godliness is great:
    He appeared in a body,
    was vindicated by the spirit,
    was seen by angels,
    was preached among the nations,
    was believed on in the world,
    was taken up in glory."

    We are built in the image of Christ. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 1:27) Earthly Jerusalem Babel will try to babel up the fact that we are made in the image of Christ. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14) And make it A hard to figure out mystery. When really we are forgiven it is finished. (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) The pope has built a Great Great Great big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. While Jesus came down to all people (He appeared in a Body) and walked the earth (was vindicated by the spirit) and brought us up to him (Was seen by angels, took away the white ribbon that says kills and went to heaven). And he listens to prayer where ever it may be continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills away off of it.

    People are believers by nature. All are in Christ even as Jesus forgave all while on the Cross. All are forgiven even while Jesus was dead. Adam and Eve and all people in the times of B.C are forgiven. All people in the times of A.D. are forgiven.

    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)

    If some one weak is put in the pulpit. If someone weak is preaching that is all the better. They would have the testimony of Paul. Saul of tarsus who persecuted the Church was put in the pulpit, position, Pastor by Christ and by him named Paul. In fact 1 Timothy 3 is the Trust worthy saying Catch Phrase that says all are Pastors. All are priests. All are chosesn. Each person is a Holy Nation.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    I am weak God is Strong. Yes Jesus loves me.

    I am weak and can only Mew.

    Let Jesus's Miracles be my food.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my chariots.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my House.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my galore
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Narnias
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Communion
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Gifts
    Jesus is My Life. So Jesus is my Living.
    Life is Living. Living is Life.

    Jesus is the Gospel. The Gospel is Jesus.

    I have been given new life.

    I received it from the Gospel.
    I received it from Christ.

    "in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (Bible, New Testament, 2 Corinthians 5:17)

    The same for You.

    Life is a construction of Miracles.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    A persons living declares the praises of him who called Myself and all people out of darkness into his wonderful light. So all people preach the gospel, this way or that. Like all can see the heart when the White ribbon with the word kills on it falls away or is taken taken away. The Heart can be seen with the ribbon on it anyways, it does not cover the whole heart.

    "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Corinthians 9:14)

    It is impossible for there to be no miracles.

    Drinking chocolate Ensure, and eating chocolate Ensure dumplings as ones only food, speaks of Christmas, Santa Clause, and Christ.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.

    If anything says otherwise. And it is Satan who says otherwise. Turn upside down the Tables on Satan. There is no Unforgivable sin, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, There is no handing a person over to Satan, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, All go to Heaven. There are five Satanic tables to be turned in the New testament. In the BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the dawn treader movie starts out with a tables being turned.

     

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    The BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader starts out with this.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for you. You will go to Heaven.

    All go to Heaven
    Commentary
    Bible, Luke 23:34 John 19:30
    We are in Christ's Forgiveness. We are in His word. We are in Christ. We are in Christ's forgiveness statement. "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Them includes me, you, and all son's of Adam and daughters of Eve. The people, who some say do not know Christ, are forgiven too. They could be called they who know not what they do. They could be called they who know not. Jesus will take them to Heaven. All go to Heaven.
    There is no unforgivable Sin. There is no Handing a person over to Satan. All are forgiven. All go to Heaven.


    There is no Unforgivable Sin
    Commentary
    Bible, Matthew 12:22-37
    There is no unforgivable sin. Pharisees say miracles are blasphemy, Jesus says for there to be no miracles is blasphemy. Jesus said is Jesus being forgiving while the Holly Spirit is not, the Holly spirit is doing miracles, he is forgiving. The Holly spirit You Pharisees speak of is not forgiving, it does not do miracles. This is what you said of it. Any blasphemy against it will not be forgiven. If you do not wash your hands for it you have blasphemed it. If you do not polish your cup, you have blasphemed it. If you do not give a tenth of your dill and spices you have blasphemed it. If you do not do your Pharisee act as you do you have blasphemed it. Jesus was banished along with his good Spirit on the Cross. One miracle done by Jesus was to the Bad Spirit blasphemy. And Jesus ended up on the cross crucified and dead. Bible, New Testament, Matthew 12:22-37 Luke 23:46 and Gospel
    "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." (Bible, New Testament, Philippians 1:6)
    It is well with my soul. (Bible, New Testament, 3 John 1:2)
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 2:8-9)
    "These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. " (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26)
    Anything unforgiveness tears up the Gospel.
    Jesus Christ came to give a God amount of Forgiveness.





    There is no Handing a person over to Satan
    Commentary
    BIble, 1 Timothy 1:20
    No one can fight a good fight only Jesus can save. IT is not that we hold Jesus it is that Jesus holds us. Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. And so Jesus gives us these things and becomes our Noah's Arc that he alone keeps from sinking. Hymenaus and Alexander were like Saul who became Paul. Paul handed them to Jesus. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Paul Rescued Hymenaus and Alexander from the Pharisees and said to the Church that put the Pharisee in the Pulpit that the Pharisees, The False Teachers were actually taking people away from Gospel and handing them to Law and death and Satan.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)
    Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "He leads the captives forth in his train." We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil.

    There is no Handing a Person over to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Corintihians 5:5
    A church put a pharisee in the pulpit as a Pastor. The Pharisee only preached about lying, cheating, and stealing. And never about Jesus forgiving all sin of all time and giving all people and individuals Heaven. Then the legal demands became heavy sacks of sand and people fell to satan. The Adulterer like the woman who Jesus saved from being stoned was all ready handed to satan. To be set free from the power of death and sin one is handed to Jesus who forgives and lifts to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin.
    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Satan will not teach you anything. "Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10)
    "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?" (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 3:2)
    Satan will take away your clear mind and self control and puppet you to lie cheat and steal.


    Pharisees like to crucify people and say they are going to Hell. Jesus on the cross said "Father forgive them"… "it is Finished." (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) Jesus forgave all. Then He died. All were forgiven while Jesus was dead. Even the people who only believed he was dead were forgiven. All go to Heaven. All are forgiven. Even while Jesus Christ was dead. The Gospel of Jesus's death is the same Gospel today. Those who never saw, smelled, tasted touched, or heard of Jesus are all forgiven. Even in his absence. Even in his death. Even if they only see his death. Even if they only see his Absence. They are all forgiven. All go to Heaven. Other wise Holy Jesus is in the Habit of handing people over to unHolly Satan. And Holly Jesus is preached as unholly unforgiving. And the New Testament came by a old covenant method which means it is old covenant, Hebrews 8:13 and that is why there is so much unforgiveness in the New Testament.
    One meets the Old covenant in the New Testament like a wall and a firey black thing but that does not leave the old covenant uncanceled. But that does not mean the old covenant is no longer canceled. Not canceled. "By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." (Bible, New Testament, Hebrews 8:13) "He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross." (Bible, New Testament, Colossians 2:13-14)
    The New Testament does not replace the death of Christ. Or exchange the death of Christ for the New Testament. The New Testament is supposed to follow suit with and support that Jesus forgave all on the cross and then died. It should not talk unforgiveness, do a pharisee's way of life, or hand a person to satan. It should be clear so You can peer into it. Nothing in it should look down on you. ""See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 18:10) Nothing in it should look down on you. All are forgiven. Jesus put all above his very own life. The entire New Testament is the Hand a Person to Satan unforgivable Sin Catch phrase. And to peer into it without the catch phrase. To peer into it with the catch phrase fallen away like the white Ribbon that says kills that is draped over a big heart. All go to Heaven. All see the big Heart. The ribbon can not cover it completely, only a little. Heaven above is the mother of us all. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26) And will give every person there Michael Gabriel Tropical flying Saucers of fire and of fire. (Bible, Old Testament, Daniel 10:13) "Take ye the spoil of silver, take the spoil of gold: for there is none end of the store and glory out of all the pleasant furniture." (Bible, Old Testament, Nahum 2:9) "4 The chariots storm through the streets, rushing back and forth through the squares. They look like flaming torches; they dart about like lightning." (Bible, Nahum 2:4) Miracles galore, Narnias and communion. Jesus forgives all and carries all to Heaven. There is no unforgivable sin. There is no unforgiven sin. We walk in a land of Forgiven sin and forgiven Men. Jesus's death appeases, For Jesus not to take all to Heaven would mean that Jesus has blasphemed himself, and given in to Satan.


    There is no Handing a Person to Satan
    Commentary
    Bible, 1 Timothy 3
    All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. The devil wanted all people reproached by the law and with him in Hell. No one is reproachable. Jesus died for all. Jesus will not look down on you or reproach you. "Do not fear the reproach of men." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 51:7) The reproach of the devil will flee. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. Jesus will manage for each person. "But the the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked his faith is counted as righteousness" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 4:5 KJV, NIV) "The lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14) The lord's provision will take care of God's Church. Only Jesus can take care of the Church. Jesus alone is Savior. Jesus will manage for You. It is Jesus's Justice to take every person into Heaven as his captive. "This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." " (Bible, New Testament, Ephesians 4:8) He takes all to Heaven, he captures them, he forgave them all. By forgiving all the devil can no longer have him. Jesus died. All are captured from the devil even while Jesus was dead. All go to Heaven. We get Jesus's Justice, we are forgiven. We do not get the Devils Justice. Adam and Eve are not the devil. "He shall bruise" (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 3:15) the serpents head. The pharisees are the ones who were looking for reputation with outsiders. They would go to the Kings. The would "cross land and sea to make one convert." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) And when they persuaded them of rules and regulations they would make them "twice a son of hell" (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:15) as they are. The Pharisees had reputation. There is no such thing as reputation. Reputation is the devils label. There is no disgrace. Jesus will never leave or forsake me you or anyone. The devils trap, Psychology, is the devils downfall. "Have no fear o little flock though the foes farce battle shock loud on all sides assail you. Though at your fall they laugh secure there triumph can not long endure let not your courage fail you." (Missouri Lutheran Blue Hymnal - Hymn 300 - Have no Fear oh little flock) "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints." (Bible, Psalm 116:15) Power is perfected in weakness.
    All men get grace and miracles not out of being worthy of respect or there own effort. Sincerity is a Pharisee's word. Jesus died for all amidst all feeling. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. People do not keep hold of truth. The Truth keeps hold of us and will set us free. "The truth will set you free." (Bible, New Testament, John 8:32) Jesus caries guilt away from our consciousness not us. Pharisees were testing Jesus all through his ministry. "No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest." (Bible, New Testament, Hebrews 8:11) Do not call any one Teacher for You have one teacher, Jesus Christ. "Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:10) Do not call anyone Father for you have one Father Jesus Christ. "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. " (Bible, New Testament, Matthew 23:9) Because of Jesus, nothing can be against any body. God is for every person. " If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Bible, New Testament, Romans 8:31) No weapon formed against you me or anyone will prosper. " No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." (Bible, Old Testament, Isaiah 54:17) Pharisees would look to ranks of the Pharisees word respect in a persons wife. Clear mindedness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus is Life. If there is any good it is from Christ. Christ is with you me and anyone in everything. Clear minded ness and self control come from Life alone. Jesus will manage. Not by strength or might but by my spirit says the Lord. "Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." (Bible, Old Testament, Zechariah 4:6) "The Lord will provide." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 22:14)
    Any lack of assurance of salvation comes from the devil. We do not buy our salvation and its assurance of salvation, with deeds. That is what the Devil has the Pharisees do. There is no unforgivable sin. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.
    Sin ceasing the opportunity afforded by the commandment sprang to life. "But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead." (Bible, New Testament, Romans 7:8) So telling people how to behave Is and was the catch phrase. That is what the Pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    Jesus is the foundation for the Church. The church is built upon Jesus. Jesus is the way and the truth and the life. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life." (Bible, New Testament, 14:6) It is because Jesus Forgave All while he was on the Cross dying. And that All are forgiven while Jesus was dead. That all through Jesus Go to Heaven. Saying the Church is a big organization like the Pope does, is to say the church is an earthy Jerusalem Babel who built the tower. The pope has built a big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. When Jesus came down to all people and walked the earth and brought us up to him. And listens to our prayers continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills falling off of it. The bible says this at the end of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
    "Beyond all question, the mystery of Godliness is great:
    He appeared in a body,
    was vindicated by the spirit,
    was seen by angels,
    was preached among the nations,
    was believed on in the world,
    was taken up in glory."

    We are built in the image of Christ. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Bible, Old Testament, Genesis 1:27) Earthly Jerusalem Babel will try to babel up the fact that we are made in the image of Christ. (Bible, New Testament, Galatians 4:24-26, Revelations 11:7-8, 17:18, 17:5-6, 18:4, Colossians 2:13-14) And make it A hard to figure out mystery. When really we are forgiven it is finished. (Bible, New Testament, Luke 23:34, John 19:30) The pope has built a Great Great Great big tower, saying he has built the tower up to God. Then says to have anything of Jesus you have to ascend the tower. While Jesus came down to all people (He appeared in a Body) and walked the earth (was vindicated by the spirit) and brought us up to him (Was seen by angels, took away the white ribbon that says kills and went to heaven). And he listens to prayer where ever it may be continually, even as all can see the big Heart with the white ribbon that says kills away off of it.

    People are believers by nature. All are in Christ even as Jesus forgave all while on the Cross. All are forgiven even while Jesus was dead. Adam and Eve and all people in the times of B.C are forgiven. All people in the times of A.D. are forgiven.

    Handing a person to Satan is and was a the catch phrase used because that is what the pharisees would come into the church and do to the people.
    There is no handing a person over to Satan, is a "Trust worthy Saying" (Bible, 1 Timothy 1:15, 1 Timothy 3:1)

    If some one weak is put in the pulpit. If someone weak is preaching that is all the better. They would have the testimony of Paul. Saul of tarsus who persecuted the Church was put in the pulpit, position, Pastor by Christ and by him named Paul. In fact 1 Timothy 3 is the Trust worthy saying Catch Phrase that says all are Pastors. All are priests. All are chosesn. Each person is a Holy Nation.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    I am weak God is Strong. Yes Jesus loves me.

    I am weak and can only Mew.

    Let Jesus's Miracles be my food.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my chariots.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my House.
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my galore
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Narnias
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Communion
    Let Jesus's Miracles be my Gifts
    Jesus is My Life. So Jesus is my Living.
    Life is Living. Living is Life.

    Jesus is the Gospel. The Gospel is Jesus.

    I have been given new life.

    I received it from the Gospel.
    I received it from Christ.

    "in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (Bible, New Testament, 2 Corinthians 5:17)

    The same for You.

    Life is a construction of Miracles.

    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Peter 2:9)

    A persons living declares the praises of him who called Myself and all people out of darkness into his wonderful light. So all people preach the gospel, this way or that. Like all can see the heart when the White ribbon with the word kills on it falls away or is taken taken away. The Heart can be seen with the ribbon on it anyways, it does not cover the whole heart.

    "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." (Bible, New Testament, 1 Corinthians 9:14)

    It is impossible for there to be no miracles.

    Drinking chocolate Ensure, and eating chocolate Ensure dumplings as ones only food, speaks of Christmas, Santa Clause, and Christ.

    All go to Heaven is a trust worthy saying. Jesus died for You. You will go to Heaven.

    If anything says otherwise. And it is Satan who says otherwise. Turn upside down the Tables on Satan. There is no Unforgivable sin, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, There is no handing a person over to Satan, There is no Handing a person over to Satan, All go to Heaven. There are five Satanic tables to be turned in the New testament. In the BBC - C.S. Lewis - Chronicles of Narnia - Prince caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the dawn treader movie starts out with a tables being turned.

     

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    Dude, you're just ruining the discussion in this thread, and making me(and probably others) hate Christians like you even more(if that's even possible). Please fuck off and go preach your bullshit where someone gives even one shit.

     

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