Who Needs A SarcMark When Your Computer Can Just Tell You When Someone's Being Sarcastic?

from the technology-to-the-rescue dept

Technology: the cause and the solution to all our problems. We've previously covered the attempt to create a proprietary fee-required sarcasm punctuation mark called the SarcMarc (which appears to just be a Hebrew letter), as well as its more sarcastic and open competition called the Open Sarcasm project. Clearly, the world is begging for better notification for when sarcasm occurs.

Apparently, some feel that the answer is to throw technology at the problem, rather than requiring explicit punctuation or markup. Some researchers in Israel (perhaps trying to take back the Hebrew letter the SarcMarc folks copied) have created a system that can automatically (mostly) recognize when someone's Twitter message is meant to be sarcastic (some of the time). So, go ahead and rejoice. We may soon reach the day when you will never again be fooled by missed sarcasm.
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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 4:26am

    So what now?

    Amazing. So Jews again prove their place in the world, and again it seems they can't cure cancer.

    But why did they close the California Pizzza Kitchen? I'm still waiting for an answer there.

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    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 5:11am

    Any sarcastic comment on a forum is also followed by a couple more from people who just didn't get it. How is a computer program supposed to be able to accurately determine sarcasm when the general populous cannot?

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    • identicon
      Mike, 21 May 2010 @ 5:35am

      Re:

      Is your argument that computers cant do anything better or more accurately than a human? Hmmm... yes... please excuse me as I modify a word document in my mind :)

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    Sneeje (profile), 21 May 2010 @ 5:15am

    Mike, I don't think this was created for the purpose of using tech to recognize sarcasm, so much as it was created for the purpose of seeing if it was possible (I don't know, just speculating). The fields of cognitive science and artificial intelligence are mostly driven forward by small steps like this. It seems like a nice, well-bounded problem to tackle with an experiment.

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    • identicon
      froyo, 21 May 2010 @ 5:36am

      Re:

      Were you being sarcastic?

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      Peet McKimmie (profile), 21 May 2010 @ 5:54am

      Re:

      AFAIK it is intended for use when aggregating "Customer reviews" on sites such as Amazon, where a clearly sarcastic comment will often show up as a 5-star review to a search spider.

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        Sneeje (profile), 21 May 2010 @ 6:59am

        Re: Re:

        @froyo, no, and perhaps I'm being too generous. I explored those fields in college and this was exactly the sort of thing that would be tried, simply to test out the ability of algorithms to identify linguistic complexity.

        But as Peet says, none of that could be true, this could have been someone's application of technology for its own sake, not for any academic reason.

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      Mike Masnick (profile), 21 May 2010 @ 12:38pm

      Re:

      Mike, I don't think this was created for the purpose of using tech to recognize sarcasm, so much as it was created for the purpose of seeing if it was possible

      I know... I was just joking. Badly, apparently. :)

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 6:48am

    "... as well as it's more sarcastic and open competition called the Open Sarcasm project."
    Extra apostrophe!

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 7:16am

    i never heard of these idiots until they were on techdirt. mike, are you part owner of this stuff? you of all people should know the effects of discussing them at all.

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  • identicon
    Pixelation, 21 May 2010 @ 7:22am

    I guess I will have to develop undetectable sarcasm to escape the notice of our digital overlords.

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    GrokIt, 21 May 2010 @ 8:32am

    hmmm . .

    This is an important development.




    (if you can't tell when someone is being sarcastic then you have a real problem)

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    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 8:42am

    I bet someone is gonna patent this. You know, to promote innovation and all that.

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  • identicon
    David T, 21 May 2010 @ 9:54am

    Over-engineering the solution...

    At the end of a sarcastic remark, the person making the comment can type, "/sarcasm" (or /s, to make it short).

    Problem solved.

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  • identicon
    Misterease, 21 May 2010 @ 10:19am

    A sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention.
    (Sarcasm detector explodes)

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  • identicon
    #captainobvious, 21 May 2010 @ 11:36am

    Captain No Pants IN SPAAAACE

    I thought this was about

    "ICWSM – A Great Catchy Name: Semi-Supervised Recognition of Sarcastic Sentences in Online Product Reviews"

    If you don't know what it is, Google it.

    I'm glad Mike writes articles about the Twitterscape.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 May 2010 @ 12:54pm

    Next up to solve: Poe's law! Good Luck!

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  • identicon
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 21 May 2010 @ 9:18pm

    Proposed Sarcasm Markup

    >

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    • identicon
      Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 21 May 2010 @ 9:19pm

      Re: Proposed Sarcasm Markup

      Your comment system screwed that up. It should have been

      <![SARCASM[ ... this is how you do it ... ]]>

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 23 May 2010 @ 10:28pm

        Re: Re: Proposed Sarcasm Markup

        how the heck did you manage a greater and less sign on techdirt. I've tried, even with the Html exception rules, and failed. Let me see the source

        < >

        Testing

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