Is That Two Strikes For Mandelson? Labour Caught With Another Potentially Infringing Poster

from the watch-out... dept

You may recall a few weeks back that we wrote about how the Labour party in the UK had come under fire for a really bad campaign poster that portrayed an opposing candidate from the Conservative party as if he were a character in a BBC television program -- photoshopping the candidate's head onto the a promotional shot from the TV show. Labour ended up pulling the poster after the ad seemed to only help the competition -- but also after some questioned whether or not Labour (the party in power that had drafted the infamous Digital Economy Bill) was infringing on copyrights of the TV show in using the image from the show. Eventually, Peter Mandelson, the guy who basically wrote the Digital Economy Bill and was its main champion, took "responsibility" for the poster.

So it's a bit bizarre to hear that Labour and Mandelson have put out a second, quite similar, poster that appears to be just as questionable on the copyright front. Misterfricative writes in to alert us to a new controversy over yet another campaign poster involving the Conservative candidate photoshopped into an image from a BBC television program. Once again, the poster has been "withdrawn" over other aspects of the controversy, but it certainly looks like this should be Mandelson's second strike, right? After all, these posters are supposedly his responsibility. If he wants to set a good example, perhaps he should cut off his own internet access. But I guess he shouldn't worry. After all, as Mandelson himself pointed out, once kicked off, he can pay up in order to file an appeal.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 6:59am

    only strikes if he downloaded it online, and only if he did it personally. nice attempt to sully a reputation and throw dirt. too bad that there are hundreds of people involved. the masnick fails again.

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      btrussell (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:09am

      Re:

      So infringement only counts online?

      Nothing to worry about offline?

      Guess I can rip movies and mail them out to people then.

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        Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:13am

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        yeah, what is the punishment for three times offline? you cut off his air? please. three strikes is just a signficant softening of existing copyright laws. in the real world you only get one strike.

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          btrussell (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:22am

          Re: Re: Re:

          ...but at least you get a chance to defend yourself.

          Cut off for accusations?

          Good thing that doesn't apply to the real world.

          Hate to get "cut off" because of a rape accusation.

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          Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 8:13am

          Re: Re: Re:

          in the real world you only get one strike.

          Let's hope all of those involved in these campaigns have been duly punished under the law, given they've already used up their one strike.

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          Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 11:28am

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          Softening.

          TAM is hilarious.

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          Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 11:29am

          Re: Re: Re:

          In the "real world" you also get due process and the presumption of innocence, but TAM prefers a world where justice doesn't require effort.

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            Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 12:21pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            no i prefer the real world. when you are caught violating copyright you take it down and then get due process. you would be taking a huge risk to keep violating after notification. online should be no different. the due process is there but you need to stop violating.

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              Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 12:39pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              I have never been caught violating copyright in the real world and I do it all the time and in front of the authorities, no less!

              Cops don't care about copyright infringement. They care more about the murderers, rapists and actual thieves.

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      Captain Kibble (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:14am

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      I'll skip right over you missing the point completely and get to the real problem I have with your post? Sully Lord Mandelson's name? What parallel world are you living in where Mandelson has a reputation that could be made any worse by an accusation of copyright infringement?

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        Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:16am

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        he has enough of a reputation that the masnick feels the need to attack him personally at every turn.

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          Modplan (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:21am

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          Mandelson has no good reputation to sully, and this is an example of obvious hypocritical behaviour. But I guess that doesn't stop the tamster from debating the author, not the point, especially as hypocritical behaviour is the forte of the tamster.

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          PaulT (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:25am

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          "The Masnick" is pointing out the naked hypocrisy of pushing for the three strikes laws (which will easily affect innocent people) at the behest of copyright owners, while committing blatant copyright infringement yourself.

          Please, Mr. Corporate Shill, tell us why this isn't something worth criticising?

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            Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 9:05am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            Little ac isn't a corporate shill. Little ac just takes the opposite stance of every post that little ac comments on. You don't have to be a corporate shill to do that.

            Just a plain old shill, really.

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            Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 10:32am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            it is worthy of comment but do you really think it is mandelson personally making all of those choices? it would be like holding the masnick personally responsible for the blatherings of the bench warmers that filled in for him last week.

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              dorp, 26 Apr 2010 @ 10:42am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              it is worthy of comment but do you really think it is mandelson personally making all of those choices? it would be like holding the masnick personally responsible for the blatherings of the bench warmers that filled in for him last week.

              Or even better, like holding you accountable for your own actions! Any person can see that you can't even make a rational choice of using capitalization, let alone making a sound argument.

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              Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 11:30am

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              Almost like holding the owner of an internet connection accountable for things he didn't do, right?

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              Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 12:41pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              You are terrible at logical thinking. Well, thinking in general. You know what, let's just say that you are terrible and leave it at that.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:26am

      Re:

      Well good job trolling all of these people. I'll give you that.

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      mjb5406 (profile), 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:37am

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      A reputation that stinks is difficult to "sully" (nice 10th grade word, BTW). Mendelson, if you bothered to read the history of the Digital Economy Bill, wasn't much of a backer until the entertainment industry started wining and dining him... then he had an epiphany. He figured that, since all those nice people were lining his pockets with their hard-earned Pounds, he needed to do something to thank them. So he let them stick their hands up his butt and work him kike a puppet.

      Is that sullied enough for you?

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      awe, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:37am

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      awd, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:41am

      Re:

      Ok, an organisation is collectively breaking copyright FOR PROFIT and you say we ignore it, and then you want to attack the not-for-profit filesharers instead?

      Must we ignore the hypocrisy of the party that brought us the Digital Economy Thing?

      I say "no" on both counts. What say you, TAM?

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      Dom S, 26 Apr 2010 @ 9:41am

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      it is quite incredible that you would actually make this statement.

      Scandelson has been thrown out of positions of power twice (from what i remember) and all because he's a corrupt NON-ELECTED a$$ who has repeatedly tried to take the pi$$ out of the British public.

      now he OBVIOUSLY infringes someone elses copy"right" and then sits on his f*cking privelege provided seat basically laughing at everyone he's stitched up with his bogus DEB (THATS EVERYONE WHO HAS INTERNET ACCESS AND CAN BE ACCUSED OF PIRACY BY HIS PUPPET-MASTERS! btw)

      HE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THE POSITION HE IS IN!

      end of

      as a sidenote though i feel a little "sullied" myself having taken a second to realise that maybe you're just a wind-up merchant fishing for a reaction... well you got it. I hope your mum's proud...

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      techflaws.org (profile), 27 Apr 2010 @ 2:18am

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      What reputation? Non-existant like yours, TAM?

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    RD, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:12am

    Nice Try

    Yeah, nice try TAM, but Mandelson claimed responsibility himself, so he would (or can) be liable. Also, your "only if" is specious. That would never stop someone from getting sued, and laws are supposed to (I know you dont agree and think that those in power and your butt buddy bosses at the *IAA's should be exempt) apply to everyone equally. No one is above the law, right? Get that dirty pirate, right? Throw the book at that dirty thief, right? Well, it works both ways.

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      vyvyan, 26 Apr 2010 @ 7:39pm

      Re:

      There for Mandelson, There for Sarkozy (or were there more?), Obama still zero.

      US needz a copyright reform. I am fumbling with the word here, what would it be called reform? unform, reunform, unreform whatever

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    anon, 28 Apr 2010 @ 1:15pm

    Lib Dems

    The Lib Dems are probably the best mainstream party for those who actually care about the freedom of the internet.

    Less free internet means less good quality of life for those in the UK.

    Make sure you get out and vote for them. I hate politics but even I am going to do my part on this one.

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