Nine Inch Nails Fans Create Incredible Live DVD From Footage: Encourage Everyone To Share Widely

from the have-fun-with-it dept

You may recall that about a year ago, Trent Reznor jokingly mentioned that 400 gigs of high definition video footage of some shows from Nine Inch Nail's previous tour had been released online "by a mysterious, shadowy group of subversives." Not only that, he noted "I'll bet some enterprising fans could assemble something pretty cool." Now, of course it was Rezor's own people who were "leaking" the content, but we'd been hearing all sorts of cool things about what they were doing, and on Christmas Eve they officially released what they had put together called "Another Version Of The Truth: The Gift." It's an amazing display of crowdsourced teamwork by a group calling itself "This One Is On Us," a play on Reznor's statement when he released "The Slip" as a completely free download, when he said "This one's on me."

As they note, it took 12 months, involving a "core team of dozens (with a network of thousands), spanning 3 continents, 4 languages, 5 specialist teams [and] countless sleepless nights." And what did they come out with? Well, it's a concert video that's available in pretty much any format you might want (and they're still adding more). In fact you'll soon be able to get it in Blu-ray. But in the meantime, you can get it in standard DVD of dual layer DVD formats. You can get it for the PS3 or as a basic .MOV file. There's a version catering to those who want to watch on an iPod, and (of course) it's on YouTube.

And as we're being told how awful BitTorrent is and how various torrent trackers and search engines need to be shut down, the folks behind this effort released it under a Creative Commons license, and people are being told that they "are encouraged to seed for as long as possible." As for Reznor himself? He notes that he's "blown away" and reminded (yet again) that Nine Inch Nails fans "kick ass."

But Bittorrent can't be used for any legitimate purpose, right? And musicians can't possibly embrace what the technology allows? Once again, we're seeing why those who embrace what technology allows will do just fine moving forward. It's only those who think that the answer is to bring out the lawyers and try to hold back progress who will find themselves struggling to create business models that work.

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    Mike Masnick (profile), 28 Dec 2009 @ 10:21pm

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    You wax poetic, all the while making light of my very simple point. It is not by any reasonable definition a sign of "respect" to do something that is in direct contradiction to the expressed wishes of an author.


    If you believe otherwise then I submit you are subject to being characterized as part of the problem and not the solution. You say that you do not engage in illegal downloading and distribution, and yet you are willing to state that those who may choose to do so can be viewed as showing "respect" for an author by "sharing" the author's work with others.

    Yes, they can be. Just as they can be viewed as not showing respect. My point to you is that "respect" is meaningless in this debate, and used to distract from the real issues. It's the same point you have brought up before. We had a discussion last year in which you stated a more moral world was one where everyone is worse off. I find that to be sickening and incredibly immoral that you would purposely make everyone worse off and consider that to be a better solution.

    You can't argue the economic point so you fall back on "morals" or "respect" as if they mean anything. Both of those terms are totally subjective and entirely meaningless within this debate.

    That was my point.

    Rather than hiding behind a disingenuous veil, why not simply come out and say that you choose to not break the law, but see nothing wrong with others doing so in the context of distributing copyrighted works over P2P without an author's permission?

    No, there are plenty of things wrong with breaking the law, but in this case, I can see their arguments as to why they do it, and I recognize that it is not going away, and fighting it only makes the problem worse. Why you have trouble seeing this, I do not understand. Why you choose to hide behind terms that are meaningless in this debate -- such as "respect" and "morals" while at the same time mocking us as "copyright whining baggers" is again hard for me to fathom.

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