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The Pirate Bay IP Addresses Point To Prosecution Lawyers

from the funny-stuff dept

In a somewhat amusing joke, it looks like the folks behind The Pirate Bay have had their latest IPs listed as being controlled by the law firms involved in the prosecution against them. Some thought that somehow the law firms had taken control over the IP addresses, but it appears to be much more of a joke by The Pirate Bay folks, showing the prosecutors how IP info isn't universal truth. However, the timing of this little prank may have been a bit off, as The Pirate Bay site has been experiencing some downtime due to ISP issues totally unrelated to the IP addresses or to the trial (though, it didn't stop someone from emailing me that The Pirate Bay had been down for all of three minutes and something must be wrong!!!).

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  • identicon
    Haywood, 27 Apr 2009 @ 5:22am

    TPD down for 3 minutes

    That just shows you how much like a utility it has become. Last night friends dropped over just as one of my shows was about to start. Ever the good host, I turned to my guests and let it be fully expecting to be able to download it later. I too was a little disturbed last night when TPB was unavailable, but I took the wait and see approach. I did look around the torrent community, and it has become a bit sad, with private trackers and spam files. TPB is one of the few that upholds what this is supposed to be about.

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    • identicon
      Kilgore Trout, 27 Apr 2009 @ 8:31am

      Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

      Yeah, what it's supposed to be about... stealing crap for free, because we are too cheap/lazy to pay for it.

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        TDR, 27 Apr 2009 @ 8:40am

        Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

        Digital goods are not physical goods, Kilgore. As has been said again and again and again and again and again and again and again on this site, it is infringment, not theft. When you have an infinite supply and a near virtual production cost, price naturally gravitates to zero. So it's more like obtaining the product for the price it's supposed to be rather than supporting the very artifical scarcity the middleman want to keep in place.

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          Anonymous Coward, 27 Apr 2009 @ 1:09pm

          Re: Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

          Whatever makes you sleep at night.

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            Anonymous Coward, 27 Apr 2009 @ 11:49pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

            Whatever makes you sleep at night.

            I don't know about TDR, but busting lying shills definitely helps me sleep better at night. :)

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        Cixelsid, 27 Apr 2009 @ 8:43am

        Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

        "stealing crap for free"

        as opposed to stealing crap for payment?

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        The infamous Joe, 27 Apr 2009 @ 9:22am

        Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

        because we are too cheap/lazy to pay for it.

        Too lazy to pay for it? You're exactly right! If you make it easier to pay, you'll get way more people who will.

        Too cheap to pay for it? If no one wants to buy your product at the price you offer it, you lower your price to what they will buy it for. Unfortuantely as has already been stated, that price, in a healthy market, should become zero.

        So, as soon as they sell music easily at the price of zero, people will stop pirating.

        ..oh wait...!

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        Anonymous Coward, 27 Apr 2009 @ 11:52pm

        Re: Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

        "Yeah, what it's supposed to be about... stealing crap for free, because we are too cheap/lazy to pay for it."

        So who's stealing anything?

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      The infamous Joe, 27 Apr 2009 @ 9:17am

      Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

      I'm told btjunkie is better.

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      Anonofus, 27 Apr 2009 @ 12:37pm

      Re: TPD down for 3 minutes

      Just because the Pirate Bay was down doesn't mean you can't get what you want. Haven't you ever heard of Demonoid or ISOhunt? They're equally as as reliable as TPB.

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    HP Laser Printer, 27 Apr 2009 @ 5:23am

    But ... as we all know ... the IP address is a personal identifier and can be used to absolutely prove that an individual is guilty.

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    Anonymous Coward, 27 Apr 2009 @ 7:00am

    I don't see how this will help their cause. Next they are going to get hit with falsifying their domain records.

    seems kind of stupid to me.

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    JustMe, 27 Apr 2009 @ 7:17am

    #4

    What are they gunna do? Sue?

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    Tor, 27 Apr 2009 @ 11:04am

    In other news...

    ... Tele 2, one of Sweden's biggest ISPs, says today that they will not keep records of the customers' IP addresses. Hence, if rights holders use the new IPRED1 law to demand records there will be none to present (the law doesn't require ISPs to keep records). Tele 2 has 600 000 broadband customers in Sweden and the ISP Bahnhof has already made a similar decision. Apparently there has been a large demand for privacy protection.

    Peter Danowsky, the lawyer who represented IFPI in the Pirate Bay trial, calls the decision "astonishing".

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  • identicon
    RD, 27 Apr 2009 @ 5:12pm

    'Tard

    "Yeah, what it's supposed to be about... stealing crap for free, because we are too cheap/lazy to pay for it."

    Yeah because no one would ever PAY for digital music, not even if you wrapped it in an easy to use interface and had thousands of songs available.

    Wait...whats that? iTunes? Oh....right...

    F*cktw*at.

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