Danish ISP Blocks The Pirate Bay; But Is It For Legal Reasons... Or Competitive?

from the legal-excuses dept

A year ago, recording industry lobbying group IFPI successfully convinced a Danish court to force ISP Tele2 to block The Pirate Bay. This came after a similar ruling that forced Tele2 to block access to AllofMp3 (which, you'll recall was the big "threat" prior to The Pirate Bay). Of course, these blocks don't work particularly well, and seem incredibly annoying for those content creators who actually want their content distributed through systems like The Pirate Bay.

Tele2 appealed the ruling, and another court found that, indeed, ISPs should be forced to block access to The Pirate Bay. While that case is being appealed to the country's Supreme Court, it appears that other ISPs are being pressured to start blocking as well. Denmark's largest ISP, TDC, is now blocking access to The Pirate Bay.

Torrentfreak suggests that TDC is worried about a similar lawsuit, and did this as a preventative measure, but I have to wonder if some of the thinking is competitive. Last April, TDC announced a deal whereby its customers could download unlimited music... though it was really more of a subscription rental service that included DRM. So, basically, here's a way that TDC gets to block out a "competitor" to its own service, and then blame the legal rulings for being able to do so...
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  1. icon
    Mike (profile), 21 Jan 2009 @ 3:32pm

    Re:

    I've become increasingly fed up with the negativity of this blog

    How is it "negative" to show new business models that work well, and decry moves that limit those business models? That seems innately positive to me.

    Pirating is illegal for a reason.

    Indeed. Who said otherwise?

    Yes, you can give away you're creative goods through a sly free marketing campaign (see NIN and Radiohead). But in the end, the artist has an inherent right to sell their valuable created goods if they so choose.

    Indeed. Who said otherwise? You seem to be confusing the idea of selling a good you created vs. limiting what others can then do with it. That confusion leads you down a very confused path.

    And, actually, where do you get the idea that the right is "inherent." It is not. It is a choice made by the gov't for a reason... and plenty of studies have shown that the reason given by the gov't doesn't actually match up with what happened in reality. Doesn't that seem like a problem to you? Or do you except the reason and ignore the data?

    They join a record label to get exposure. Regardless if you believe the labels are ass backwards at the moment or not.

    What does that have to do with an ISP blocking The Pirate Bay?

    Remember that any unsigned musician can distribute their creative goods through P2P means instead of joining a label.

    Um, they can't when your ISP blocks all the P2P offerings, can they? That was the point of this post, or did you not read it?

    The fact of the matter is that they have chosen to sell it and make a decent living.

    No, they have chosen to *try* to sell it and to *try* to make a decent living. We all have the right to try, but success or failure is determined by the market. And no one is trying to limit the market.

    They have a right to make a better living than the rest of us because they have an uncommon ability to create art.


    Wow. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

    If it's for sale and you want to own a piece of it. Buy it. If you can't buy it, tough shit.

    Fair enough.

    That's how the market works.

    Um... no. A market DOES NOT WORK by having a gov't set up a monopoly on a product, and telling one supplier it's the only one who can sell it.

    A market DOES NOT WORK when an ISP is told by the gov't that it needs to block a site despite tons of legal things that are shared via that site.

    If everything was free in this world we would have no way of keeping a productive and intelligent society. We'd be no better off than the worse economies of the world where nobody gives a shit about any laws in place. Slippery slope, I know. But a comparison nonetheless.

    Dude, if you want to complain about what we write, at least complain about what we write. Don't make up something ridiculous like "everything in the world should be free." We've said no such thing.

    You seem to totally misunderstand what I have written. I'll take the blame and say it's my fault, but I have never said that piracy was ok. I have never said everything in the world should be free. You seem to ascribe to me beliefs I do not have.

    Hell, this post wasn't about anything you wrote in your comment.

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