Myanmar Internet Shut Down, But We Can Still Watch From Space

from the it's-a-small-world dept

As previously reported, the pro-democracy rallies in Myanmar have been closely covered by regular reports coming out of the embattled nation via cellphone, email and even YouTube. The government's attempts to try and pollute the web with their own propaganda must not have worked, since on Friday morning, the government shut off Internet access, cut phone lines and confiscated mobile phones in an attempt to control the outflow of information about the rallies. Though this may have slowed reports, it's very difficult for the government to completely clamp down, so some news reports are still getting out through mobile phones and a few satellite uplinks to the Internet. Even if the junta is able to completely shut things down, events can still be monitored from satellites, which are providing evidence of potential human rights abuses conducted by the government. Now that its next actions are being played out under a vigilant global eye, hopefully Myanmar officials will make the right choices in the coming days.
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  1. identicon
    Danny, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:25pm

    If only...

    this country had some valuable item like say....oil. Then the US government would invade in order to "liberate" the people of that nation.

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  2. identicon
    Bob, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:28pm

    Re: If only...

    your a stupid liberal idiot.

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  3. identicon
    forgiste, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:43pm

    Re: Re: If only...

    A stupid idiot eh? That's quite redundant. Oh, and I love how your provide no evidence of this so-called stupidity. You know he's right. If they had something like a large reserve of oil, our troops would be there tomorrow, along with a steady stream of anti-myanmar propaganda on our news media.

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  4. identicon
    Joe, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:47pm

    RE: If only...

    ...a stupid liberal idiot who has a better grasp of grammar than you do.

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  5. identicon
    Spoken Intently, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:56pm

    Re: Re: If only...

    The redundancy is correct and there for a reason... Since when was formal grammar attire required for comment posts?

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  6. identicon
    PaleoSapiens, 28 Sep 2007 @ 9:59pm


    Never underestimate the power of Human Stupidity...

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  7. identicon
    sen, 28 Sep 2007 @ 10:14pm


    one biased comment about oil. so i guess this is a ratio of .5 to 7 posts (including my own) that didn't have a thing to do with burma. too bad people can't lay aside emotion and ideology on both sides and actually have a discussion. meanwhile many die as the worlds turns and leaves them behind.

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  8. identicon
    Peets, 28 Sep 2007 @ 10:17pm


    A cruel and oppressive government abusing its citizens is killing peaceful unarmed monks and civilians and the first comment is a political jeer. The only reason why politicians themselves are so low, is because their supporters are just as low. The issue here is not to take a cheap stab at an unrelated entity, but rather to highlight the despicable acts of the Burmese government.

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  9. identicon
    glitch, 28 Sep 2007 @ 10:41pm

    two initials....

    this is not a situation for the US but begs for UN action

    but sadly, it will/would end up being polluted by "politics"
    from all sides

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  10. identicon
    Overcast, 28 Sep 2007 @ 11:23pm

    this is not a situation for the US but begs for UN action

    UN action? lol

    It's like a 750 pound fat guy getting off the couch, it's just not gonna happen. Wait for the UN to do anything and most of the population will be dead.

    Oh wait, maybe the UN soldiers can move in and rape the women and children.

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  11. identicon
    ForReal, 28 Sep 2007 @ 11:53pm

    Myanmar Internet Access

    I've continued to look for any details of what "shutting internet access" actually consists of. None ever show up. Quoting "Irrawaddy magazine" on the internal politics of Myanmar is as reliable as quoting G. Bush on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, since Irrawaddy is an NGO rag funded by the NID.
    The article does provide detail - ISPs are interdicted, but not private organizations. But then the article quotes the US Charge' D'affairs in Yangoon to back up the statement, but his confirmation is so weak that it isn't one at all.
    When you actually know what is going on, is a good time to comment on something, not before.

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  12. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2007 @ 12:00am

    Re: wow

    News flash, many people die every day in the US from hunger and abuse at the hands of their own families.

    Come back and try to have a discussion about someone being mistreated when you aren't being hypocritical. "Wah OMG these people in a country I can't locate on the map are being mistreated!"..."Shut up I don't care about the stupid bums and their families on the street, these people need help!"

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  13. Myanmar Internet Shut Down

    This government of Myanmar is showing its true color by shutting down all links with the outside world. If they are right, why is it that they are shutting down all communications with the outside world?

    I read that President Bush is firing more sanctions against them.

    But I have always believed that sanctions are stupid because they punish the victims, the citizens not the government.

    No matter how many sanctions that you throw at any government, it would always manage to get whatever it needs one way or the other.

    This was proven during Saddam's regime. All the sanctions against his government punished the Iraqi's citizens and millions of them suffered and starved to death, while Saddam had billions of dollars and was able to get whatever he needed, including WMD (which he later shipped and hid in Syria)

    While all this is going on in Myanmar, I am yet to read about any response from UN.

    This is UN's job and yet nobody hears anything from them.

    If UN is no longer capable of doing its job, I suggest that it be canned.

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  14. identicon
    Jacob Buck, 29 Sep 2007 @ 1:39am

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    ever hear of an idiot savant?

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  15. identicon
    my mu, 29 Sep 2007 @ 2:01am

    What next?

    CNN is reporting how internet activists overseas, say in London, are still communicating with underground contacts in Myanmar, exposing what is happening. It seems people are exchanging photos, videos and text via email and the crackdown continues.

    Situations like Iraq, Sudan, Zimbabwe and Myanmar where the UN has failed are indeed grave problems for international relations. In the west, we should be demanding more from our diplomats.

    Who is going to proceed with tribunals and organise elections? Military coups in Pacific Islands occur every few years, but limited success in places like East Timor can give hope.

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  16. identicon
    DCX2, 29 Sep 2007 @ 4:58am

    Two things...

    First, can we please stop calling it Myanmar? The original name of the country was Burma, and the military changed the name to Myanmar some time after the '88 uprising. As far as I know, the US, UK, and Australia do not recognize the change of the name, nor does the opposition leaders. And it's not Yangon, it's Rangoon.

    Second, Burma does actually have lots of natural resources. There are major deposits of offshore natural gas, and maybe some oil too. Why do you think China and India are so buddy-buddy with the junta right now? They have growing energy demands, and the junta are exploiting Burma's resources for the benefit of China and India. This is why China blocked the UN Security Council from taking any serious action.

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  17. identicon
    Okon, 29 Sep 2007 @ 5:04am

    Re: Re: If only...


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  18. identicon
    Okon, 29 Sep 2007 @ 5:08am

    Re: Re: If only...

    oops i meant it for this guy:
    "your a stupid liberal idiot."-Bob

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  19. identicon
    Innocent Bystander, 29 Sep 2007 @ 5:09am

    Nasty Business

    Burma / Myanmar does have oil. Do some research before you start spouting politcally slanted rubbish. The reason why no one is doing anything about it is because the generals are happy to sell oil to anyone who wants it. Changine regimes would threaten this healthy relationship.

    Officially, the government (The Generals) runs the internet. You pay a fortune in $US to get a username, and you log onto a government server to read all emails etc. Same principle for a mobile, pay a fortune and get 1 mobile, and have all calls monitored.

    Meanwhile, no cars can be imported, except by the Generals, so most vehicles are ancient. petrol / diesel is rationed to something like 6 gallons a week per household.

    All this from a colleague who grew up and still lives in Burma, but travels frequently because of his work.

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  20. identicon
    Dick, 29 Sep 2007 @ 7:05am

    Re: Nasty Business

    First sensible comment.

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  21. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2007 @ 7:20am

    nothing better than

    Trading lives for something we have absolutely no interest in. It seems the first rule for a liberal to justify invading a country like Bosnia or Haiti is that we have absolutely no interests or enemies there. Only a stupid idiot would want to risk lives trying to liberate a country and get tied up in some civil war where we dump a ton of cash in for absolutely no gain whatsoever.

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  22. identicon
    Michael, 29 Sep 2007 @ 8:18am

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    Please try to be more educated. Burma is actually rich in resources, including oil, and I wouldn't be surprised if we do send military over there soon. The reason we aren't there already is most likely more political, sadly for the people there. It seems like recently the country has been getting more polar about issues, and it's blinding our country. I don't consider myself liberal or conservative per say, but do care about our country, enough to get deployed in the next month as infantry in the USMC. It would be nice to know that the people I am risking my life and the lives of my men appreciate that, and think about where we are being sent instead of making comments to spur political division. Wouldn't a "I think we should send help over there to liberate the country" been more effective than your snide remark, implying Iraq is a worthless fight and the only reason we are there is because of oil?

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  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Sep 2007 @ 8:44am

    A foreign force should never attempt to liberate the people of a country. This always causes problems.

    People have to liberate themselves. If the people that are liberating themselves ask for help, then that's when the UN can help out.

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  24. identicon
    Richard, 29 Sep 2007 @ 10:26am

    Re: Re: If only...

    Danny is probably right but ... you're illiterate because "you're" is a contaction of "you are" and it is not spelt "your" which is an adjective. This is why most universities insist that students in technical studies take an English course in each of their first two years. Unfortunately as "your" is a real word, your spell checker (if you use one) will not help you.
    Think before you write nonesense.

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  25. identicon
    Danny, 29 Sep 2007 @ 10:41am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: If only...

    That depends on the motivation behind liberating the country in question. I am all for trying to help people in need but when that need if prioritized by where the most can be gained instead of simply who needs help the most I have a problem with it.

    As a person serving to defend our our nation you have my utmost respect for doing something I don't think I ever could and not for political reason but because I don't know how I would react in the "kill or be killed" situation a person in the military may face.

    I agree that politics are blinding almost every facet of our country these days but simply putting our heads in the sand about it won't make the political confusion go away.

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  26. identicon
    dorpus, 29 Sep 2007 @ 10:48am

    China's Vassal

    I might point out that the ethnic majority Burmans/Bamars are basically descendants of Chinese immigrants from a thousand years ago. Southeast Asian countries are basically smaller, less civilized Chinas.

    Maybe China will treat this as a window of opportunity to invade... I mean, liberate Burma?

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  27. identicon
    Joe, 29 Sep 2007 @ 12:11pm

    Re: China's Vassal


    The people in Burma would hardly be worse off if China did take over. China's government is practically benevolent next to the military junta ruling Burma right now.

    That being said, the US seems to be resolute in doing nothing more than enforcing yet more meaningless sanctions and letting the UN handle the situation. And we all know how effective that will be.

    In any case, most of the protests have already been disrupted, the monks are scattered, thousands have been arrested (most of whom, you can be sure, will never be seen again), many people have already died (we'll never know how many for sure), and the people still suffer. 1988 all over again.

    By this time next week, most people will probably have forgotten the whole thing. And we'll still be trying to force Iraq kicking and screaming into a democracy which the peaceful citizens of Burma are begging (and dying) for.

    What a world...

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  28. identicon
    Eric, 29 Sep 2007 @ 1:15pm

    Re: If only...

    They do have oil, you moron.

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  29. identicon
    common_sense, 29 Sep 2007 @ 4:08pm

    Re: Re: If only...

    actually, he's exactly right. Sorry to say it, but america's government is just as self-serving as any other

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  30. identicon
    saffron, 29 Sep 2007 @ 5:06pm

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    you're illiterate because "you're" is a contaction of "you are" and it is not spelt "your" which is an adjective.

    nice admonition. since when did YOUR become an adjective? lol. contaction OR contraction?

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  31. identicon
    James Last, 29 Sep 2007 @ 11:20pm

    Re: Re: If only...

    Better a stupid liberal idiot in the house than a republican at the door.

    Again a republican has proven that they only produce nonsense. Try debating the issue next time.

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  32. identicon
    James Last, 29 Sep 2007 @ 11:23pm

    Re: Re: wow

    You are a stupid republican idiot

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  33. identicon
    James last, 29 Sep 2007 @ 11:29pm


    Or American soldiers doing the same in Iraq? what rock have you been hiding under? The UN cannot do anything because countries like the US, Russia and the other permanent members have veto right. between the US, Russia and China, everything gets vetoed. So you are right, the UN is a fat guy on a couch, he is probably watching baseball with a super sized coke and a burger in his hands.

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  34. identicon
    Bob Jones, 30 Sep 2007 @ 2:00am

    I have to ask, why call it what the millitary junta call it? Its official name is Burma, they changed the name and some pansy-assed countries choose to call them that name (Myanmar) but the official line of both the US and the UK is that they can't change the name, they have no right to rule and thus no right to change its legal name.

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  35. identicon
    Paul`, 30 Sep 2007 @ 5:00am

    Re: nothing better than

    So the people who sent the west into Nam?

    Also in Australia we refer to the country as Burma

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  36. identicon
    Joe, 30 Sep 2007 @ 5:55am

    Thread cleanup on aisle #6?

    Can someone clean up this thread please?

    With all the flaming, name-calling, and debates about spelling and grammar, it's getting kind of hard to find posts that have anything to do with the topic.

    And before anyone starts, of course that means this post is off-topic, too. I won't cry when it is deleted as well. :)

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  37. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Sep 2007 @ 8:33am

    "and it is not spelt "your" which is an adjective."

    Your is a pronoun, testicle breath.

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  38. identicon
    Josh, 30 Sep 2007 @ 10:02am

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    Every country is self serving in some fashion. I personally think we need to be more self-preserving in this stage of our nation's history--but that's another topic for another day.

    The reason there's any crisis in Burma is because the "government" there is self-serving--destroying their own citizens to maintain comfortable control in the face of a people demanding freedom. I can't quite agree that selfishness here is the reason we're not helping's just too early to tell yet. From a political perspective, this whole thing just started to happen and we all know how long it takes a government to make a decision to act--or not act... PLUS, we have to weed through the media slant that feeds portions of truth to the public--that's not just an American problem--the BBC does the same thing. It's tough to get a true, rounded perspective unless you really dig.

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  39. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Sep 2007 @ 10:09am

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    HANG's not appropriate to correlate liberal with republican. That is not an accurate comparison. There are plenty of liberal republicans out there. If you implied conservative (instead of republican--then ok..)

    However, I do believe that liberalism today is not what it was 30 years ago in this nation--or globally. Today, liberalism closely resembles Marxism and will quietly destroy our nation's foundation through media driven ideology manipulation. Don't get me wrong--I'm not a republican either. They have issues too.

    I love our nation and having said what I did--do still respect your perspective. Later Days!

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  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Sep 2007 @ 11:37am

    Sure, they will do the "Right thing" and start herding people indoors before killing em.

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  41. identicon
    Duane M. Navarre, 30 Sep 2007 @ 1:20pm


    Oh wait, maybe the UN soldiers can move in and rape the women and children.

    Yeah, we need out of the UN.

    We also need to make the Federal Reserve truly part of our government.

    We need to recall all our troops from all foreign soil, and stay out of foreign affairs altogether.

    As for Burma, the ppl will have to see evil for evil and rally what few good souls their are, and defeat it.

    If you are not willing to fight for it, your not gonna fight to keep it, so its not practical for the US to foot the bill for every nation in the world that is corrupt when we are corrupt ourselves.

    Ron Paul 2008

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  42. identicon
    Joe, 30 Sep 2007 @ 2:25pm

    Re: Re:

    Your last statement could not be more incorrect. The monks aside, many Burmese citizens ARE willing to fight to bring change to their country.

    Unfortunately here's the reality: the people have a few swords and slingshots, the soldiers have riot gear and automatic weapons. Care to wager who wins? For a clue, reread what happened there in 1988.

    As for the "we are corrupt ourselves" cop-out: Turning a blind eye while people suffer and die is the worst form of corruption.

    The citizens of Burma are willing to fight and die (as we have seen already) for their freedom. But they need help if they are to have any chance of succeeding in bringing democracy to their country. Unfortunately, the few nations with enough economic clout in Burma to enact change (China, Thailand, maybe India) are alarmingly silent. The rest of the world is unwilling to do anything more than talk. (We've seen the success that special UN envoy had, right?)

    So if not us, then who should help these people? And when... should we forever pretend these people don't exist or don't deserve basic human rights? How many need to die before we as a civilized society demand something be done? 3,000? They passed that number way back in 1988. (Hmm... 3,000 people dead. Remember how we reacted a few years back when 3,000 people were killed on American soil? Oh well, I guess part of our "corruption" is that we regard certain people's lives as more important than others.)

    Bah, the world is hip-deep full of cowards these days.

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  43. identicon
    Joe, 30 Sep 2007 @ 2:35pm


    The Burmese people "are" asking for help... what do you think the last weeks protests were if not a desperate cry for help?

    While the Burmese were being beaten, rounded up, and shot in the streets, the UN "urged restraint". That helped "bunches". And after the majority of the protests had already been crushed, they finally decided to send a "special envoy"... who couldn't even get in the door to speak to the generals.

    The military junta don't care anything about the UN. They know the same thing that everyone else in the world knows: the United Nations hasn't lifted a finger in 40 years against them, it didn't do anything in 1988, and it won't act now.

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  44. identicon
    Soell, 30 Sep 2007 @ 3:00pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: If only...

    After reading one grammar comment after another, I find that I (as an English as a second language teacher)have to make my own comment. While it's true that you're is a contraction of you are, you is a pronoun and yours is a possessive pronoun, your is a possessive adjective. It is absurdly easy to get confused, even when one is a native speaker. Think of it this way, a possessive adjective describes something as belonging to someone or something, when the identity of the owner is understood. "Your grammar" for example. But I think that only English teachers worry about grammar in the context of emails, comment posts and other electronic mediums

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  45. identicon
    Anon, 30 Sep 2007 @ 3:50pm

    Who cares?

    Why do we care what goes on in those other countries? We live in America. We should only care about other countries when they start to threaten our way of life. Then we should nuke them out of existence. But until then, who gives a shit?

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  46. identicon
    yup, 30 Sep 2007 @ 4:55pm

    Re: Re: Re: If only...

    guys...arguing on the internet is like racing in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

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  47. identicon
    PT, 30 Sep 2007 @ 6:36pm


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  48. identicon
    Jason, 30 Sep 2007 @ 9:33pm

    How about all you political ass hats keep your opinion on US MATTERS to yourselves and focus on the problem at hand. Idiots like the left winger who just HAD to bring the US into this is the #1 reason people cannot compromise anymore. They are merely attention whores who attempt to make conflict so they can feel important! If you guys were spamming like this bull crap on my site you would be banned in minutes.


    Now get on topic or GTFO.


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  49. identicon
    NoFaithInHumanity, 30 Sep 2007 @ 11:36pm


    There are only three (3) comments for this article that aren't PAINFULLY RETARDED!!!

    Good job people!

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  50. identicon
    A man, 1 Oct 2007 @ 1:40am


    u guys cant even stop fighting amongst each other for long enough to see that its all just a government, repressing people in a way that is degrading lives, which is the opposite of what all nations should stand for.

    If we can't sort out our personal problems, then when it comes to others problems we may seem ignorant...... 1 step at a time. A good banter is useful but mindless bickering isn't going to stop troops from continuing till repression finds its opposite, and i don't think that the government would like that....... Free thinking.........

    It may make them individual, but every good plan can backfire..... or to say there is a good side to the bad and vice versa..... Hasn't the chinese government been repressing monks for years? was it tibet? freedom fighters none the less... Any1 know why every1 is tight pocketed and insecure.....?

    Do you have a spare dollar to feed a child thatwould have not of seen the food from that dollar, had you not have given it?

    we can make a difference we just need open minds that are ready to find out how... the more you and your friends learn of life and the more you share what you have with others, the more you will get out of life....... it isn't as grim as most people see it. Its not much of a sacrifice if every1 was in the same boat. society is getting stronger yet we still have the same pains that we suffered years ago.

    Lets leave a better tomorrow for our children and help the children of today to get by. think about how you would feel being lost in that situation and a fountain springs and you are not wholly sure where it came from but life seems like its going to get better. You can make that happen for someone like yourself. All we have to do is simply understand our dreams/goals and Do something about it.

    although we already pay taxes, that are supposed to be for schools, education, "Government Departments"(Army, Navy etc.) road maintainace and public transport, etc. not every country has this and we should be aware that others are feeling repressed. Greedy politicians never make it in democratic rule, yet they do seem to thrive in most countries where they are classed as "3rd world"...

    anyway, lets have a more peaceful tomorrow,

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  51. identicon
    chris, 1 Oct 2007 @ 2:10am

    Re: If only...

    Burma's biggest export is natural gas and oil is to china, so please stop talking out of your ass.

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  52. identicon
    chris, 1 Oct 2007 @ 2:13am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: If only...

    The USA will not be involved militarily with Burma due to their relationship with China. The US gov will try to get China involved without using military action since most exports go to china. If the US military action were use, it would cause strain on US and Chinese relations.

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  53. identicon
    Overcast, 1 Oct 2007 @ 6:39am

    Well, to get back on track.

    One real good thing here is seeing what the leaders are doing brought to light. Few years ago if Government's didn't want to deal with it, they would try to keep it out of the media, or you would hear about it on short news items, not really explaining what all was going on.

    But now, the crimes the government is committing against the people can be seen in full light. I too would like to see a quick 'fix' for this problem, but sometimes - I think problems need to be resolved from within - you can't also go nosing into your neighbor's business.

    But there's no reason at all the world should trade with this oppressive government either.

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  54. identicon
    jhgf, 1 Oct 2007 @ 10:10pm

    Imperialist fangs off Myanmar

    Imperialist Fangs Off Myanmar
    by krosty Monday, Oct. 01, 2007 at 9:45 PM

    http://nacazai. org/VictorytoMyanmar07.html

    North American Committee Against Zionism and Imperialism (NACAZAI)
    For the Decisive Victory of Myanmar against Imperialism and the Defense of her Ethnic Character and Territorial Independence!

    --- Statement of the North American Committee Against Zionism and Imperialism (NACAZAI)
    On the occasion of on-going disruptions against the peace and security of Myanmar, orchestrated by the global imperialists and carried out by traitors to the nation, the North American Committee Against Zionism and Imperialism (NACAZAI) declares its total solidarity with Myanmar and her leadership against internal and external enemies of people.

    The leading "dissident" of Myanmar, San Aung Suu Kyi, is little more than a puppet of western imperialism and cosmopolitan death. She has been praised by such mouthpieces as US President Bush, and seeks the goal of a liberal western-oriented Myanmar assimilated into the "global community".

    One finds in these committees to "Free Burma" a blatant affinity for liberalism, and demands that US and western imperialist countries intervene politically and militarily in order to "save" them. They constitute a toilet bowl of western intellectuals and those of Myanmar's compatriots who posses a deep alienation with the dynamic self-pride of their people's culture.

    (And They Are owned by Jewish Billionare George Soros and Promoted by his Move On, Avazza and The International Crisis group)

    The people of Myanmar are under the radar guns of the enemy, aside from geo-political reasons and issues of wealth from national resources and the illicit drug trade which the regime has squashed, primarily because they are a proud nationalistic people deeply unsuited to globalism. As part of the international conspiracy of the enemies of nations, Myanmar is sought for "regime change" so to as to destroy the conscious racial identity of Myanmar, her nationalistic and patriotic outlook, her strong family structure, the fanatical love of Buddhism as expressed by her peasant classes, and the capacity of Myanmar to defeat an imperialist invasion with the twelfth largest military in the world.

    Hence, regardless of any legitimate need for the transformation of social relations in Myanmar and emancipation of her worker and peasant classes, the overwhelmingly primary contradiction is between the Myanmar nation and the forces of imperialist subjugation and eternal death from national nihilism.

    We ruthlessly condemn all measures of sanctions and embargoes directed against Myanmar, and reject the globalist conspiracy to isolate her politically from the friendship of nations. Furthermore, we affirm that all progressive and revolutionary forces of the world should defend the right of Myanmar to assert the sovereignty of her political and territorial independence.

    The overwhelmingly greatest enemy of Myanmar is not any regime, past or present, but US and Western European imperialism, and those attached to it.

    Victory to Myanmar in the anti-imperialist showdown! Down with the enemies of a world made of nations!

    Why the sudden interest in Burma?

    Stop The US Zionist, Imperialist, Jewish Billioniares War On China and China's "Weapons of Mass Production"

    So why, after 45 years of ignoring the military junta's rule in Burma, does our media suddenly focus so intensely on the streets of Yangon? The answer is simple. China has been finalising plans for a pipeline "to connect Burma's deep-water port of Sittwe to the city of Kunming in the landlocked Yunnan province of southwestern China." This would effectively circumvent the Empire's stranglehold on oil shipments to East Asia, an issue of massive geostrategic importance.”

    China Approves Oil Pipeline to Burma:
    "China wants to build the pipeline to reduce its dependence on oil tankers traveling through the Strait of Malacca with shipments of crude oil from the Middle East and Africa."

    “distraction from the quagmire in ME and Iran. Whenever these guys talk about human rights in some country its almost always a distraction and psychological preparation of masses for the next war

    “…And by getting rid of the current regime, Burma will become integrated into the international banking system, which will keep the Burmese enslaved.

    "International oil and international banking. QRS suspects that the closer you look at these two, the more they are revealed to be one and the same monster. “

    “In the drug trade, it's all about monopoly.”

    “Burma/Myanmar has very large reserves of Gas that China wants and the Zionist US doesn't want it to have for cheap - and so far they've resisted financial infiltration by the moneychangers. Both these factors among others (Drugs, Oil) are good enough reasons for the zionized US government to get embroiled. There is one thing that we can all agree on, however - it's NOT a humanitarian cause. The fascination with Burma/Myanmar is about power, greed, and most importantly CONTROL.”

    “ If Move On (and their new front group Avaaz) were an anti-war group they would have a petition to stop the US/Ethiopian occupation of south Somalia - where this Washington Post article admits the Ethiopian (US-proxy) troops have killed 1000 people in "recent weeks" - instead of having an imperialist pro-war petition against Myanmar where all they can come up with is that the the Myanmar government allegedly shot 9 demonstrators. The "israeli" zionists, funded by our taxes, kill more Palestinians than that every week in Gaza. I don't see any petitions for Palestine from Move On.

    Note that U.S. assistant secretary of state Jendayi Frazer (who is mentioned in this article as having gone to Mogadishu Somalia recently to support the phony puppet government that the Ethiopians/Americans have set up there to try to justify the occupation) also was the Bush administration speaker at the pro-war rally against Sudan in April 2005 in Washington DC. Move On, and Jewish billionaire George Soros's other groups, have played a large role in inciting war against Sudan as well.

    The anti-Sudan and anti-Myanmar propaganda are both tactics in imperialist economic warfare against China.”

    "China has a trade surpus meaning they have amassed a fortune of currency from selling americans every diposable consumer item thier credit cards can handle. New York billionares want all that money and control over all the chineses currency, trade and economic activity the same way they control the US currency thru the Federal Reserve bank Corporation. The threats to boycott the olympics are just a extortion shake down to extract hugh amounts of cash payoffs in the form of chineses investments in New York money peoples private equity firm IPOs."

    With three countries -- Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam -- vying for the off-shore oil booty in seas where maritime borders are contested, the Cheney gangster cartel hopes to achieve a dominant position to grab that oil. (Burma is right next door. On September 16, 2006, the USA supported a military coup that overthrew Thailand's democratically elected government. Ralph Boyce -- U.S. ambassador to Thailand -- now sports a yellow tie to show his support for the royalist-backed coup, since yellow is the color of the monarchy.”

    "Burma is huge in the heroin trade Burma and the Golden Triangle was the largest supplier of heroin for a long time. Now it's Afghanistan and Mexico is coming on fast. In the drug trade, it's all about monopoly. Oil will always be 2nd to the drug trade over all in profits. Just so happens oil is high at the moment."

    Burma in the news at the moment is about DRUGS! Oil, Drugs, Banking, or Gas ? I suspect it's a little of all.

    Here is the US Imperialists/Think tank blue print and talking points for the war on china. NTID=20061

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    Anonymous Coward, 2 Oct 2007 @ 2:23am

    Re: Imperialist fangs off Myanmar

    This is hardly the place to promote your manifesto. Leave the Jews out of this and deal with individuals--not a people group. This whole thing called freedom of speech you're abusing would not even be here if it weren't for us imperialist Americans. But hey, just thought I'd throw you and the other .005% of US residents that agree with you a bone--after all don't we all have to be "open minded"??

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  56. identicon
    andy, 3 Oct 2007 @ 9:38pm

    If the nasty oppressor militant dogs who are killing and Im sure torturing the innocent citizens in Myanmar are allowed to continue to act in this way then that shows the world that governments and democracy everywhere are jokes.The good people in this world who love their neighbors should go in and wipe out the nasty murderous people doing these things immediately.Torture and abuse to innocents should be stopped anywhere it springs up.Instead of killing for oil and protecting the rich,lets unite and help those who truly need our love and support.Andy in Japan.

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  57. identicon
    andy, 3 Oct 2007 @ 9:43pm

    PS brothers.Less whining,back stabbing,and nit picking on each other and more helping the murder victims! or is that too polotical to accomplish? just wondering.Peace out!

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