Quebec Report Slams E-Voting Failure; Company Responsible Says To Cut It Some Slack

from the you-don't-get-a-few-tries-to-get-it-right dept

While American elections officials continue to ignore the long, long, long list of evidence that e-voting machines are not secure and cannot be relied upon to work properly, it appears that elections officials in Quebec recognize the importance of holding a fair election that people are confident accurately reflected the voting will of the people. Following a report by Quebec's electoral chief that runs through all of the problems Quebec had with e-voting machines last year, the government has extended an injunction against e-voting machines that had been put in place after the problems in the election became clear. The elections official admits that there's no way to tell if last year's election results were accurate or fair -- but that there's nothing that can be done now. Some opposition politicians, however, are thinking of trying to force the election to be wiped out and held again, claiming that the results clearly were incorrect. To make it even more fun, the firm that supplied the e-voting machines, PG Elections, is apparently upset that Quebec hasn't paid their bill in full for the machines that didn't work properly. Even worse, they seem to shrug off the problems: "We have to admit that we did have a few problems," but he then suggests you have to give them some leeway because "It was the first time all Quebec municipal elections were held on the same day and that so many used electronic voting." I'm sorry, but if the one thing your machines are supposed to do is handle the election and count people's votes, it really needs to do that -- and trying to brush it aside because it was the first time so many of your machines were being used isn't just a bad excuse, it's a reason no one should use your machines again.

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  1. identicon
    MikeR, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 10:38am


    Sounds like PG Elections was using the Quebec elections as a beta test. Not a good idea for a democracy.

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    yup, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 10:55am

    well if they dont allow the use of these machines what excuse are they going to have when they lose? i personally think there a bunch of bullshit but, thats what i think.

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    heh, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:14am

    you dont think much do you?

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    Anglo cynic, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:19am

    Quebec doesn't need machines to rig an election

    Seems to me that the Quebec government did a pretty good job all by itself trying to rig the most recent referendum put to the Quebec people. Tens of thousands of votes, mostly in English speaking areas, were challenged by pro-separatist scrutineers and not counted. The actual total was estimated at more than 70,000 votes.

    As I recall, they only voted to keep Canada together by a 50.7% majority. 70,000 votes is about 1.4% of the electorate there.

    I am glad to see that Quebec has outlawed voting machines, because frankly, keeping them would just provide another mechanism for vested interests in what is generally regarded as the most corrupt province in Canada to attempt to steal elections.

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:21am

    It's Quebec, who really cares?

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    Simon F., Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:24am

    At least it was "only" the municipal elections.

    I remember when it happened. They basically had never tried to see if their server could handle all that traffic on election day, which is pretty stupid. All of the other E-Voting vendors didn't have much problems, though they didn't have as much machine working.

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  7. identicon
    Ed, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:33am

    Bla Bla bla... again!!!


    Lets put it in this perspective.

    1) Are the Bank business a simple one?
    2) With few transactions??
    3) The bank owners agree to back 40 years and use paper again to controls all transactions???

    Ok, Ok If your anwser was Yes for the questions above, remaisn in the paper for the, absolutely difficult, complex "NASA-scientif-level" task of COUT and SUM votes!!!

    BTW, Brasil are doing an excelent use of e-voting machines for the last 15 years. Believe me, the results of a National elections come in place after few hours of the finish of the voting time.

    Next election was to Deputy, Senators, Estate Governors, also for President. The pools close 5pm the finla results was TV bradcasted at 11:30pm.

    Problems?? Of course, but less tham 1% of the total.


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    Ed, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:35am

    Ops!! Next means Last

    Ops!! Next means Last

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    Ed, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 11:38am

    Just a number

    I forgot to say...

    Brasil has 110.000.000 votes to count each natinal election.

    A litle bit...

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  10. identicon
    yup, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 12:02pm


    blow me

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    Anonymous Coward, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 12:03pm

    Is it really that hard....

    to make a voting machine? Have a little touch screen that counts the votes. In a secure place is a removable usb drive. When the voting is finished, the usb drives are connected and uploaded to the main counting server via internet. Making sure people don't vote twice is just as simple. Before voting day, you must get a voting card via mail. Not hard.

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    Sanguine Dream, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 12:10pm

    At least...

    the politicians there are smart enough to stop using the damn things for now.

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  13. identicon
    gaboom, Oct 25th, 2006 @ 2:53pm

    Re: Re:

    You guys leave yup alone! Obviously, he's struggling with a diminished intellectual capacity. How would you like it if people made fun of your delayed faculties?

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  14. identicon
    yup, Oct 26th, 2006 @ 9:05am

    btw from now on ill make an extra effert to repay the gratitude you have shown me, everytime u comment. wanta bicker?.....u know where to put your lips.....

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