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by Mike Masnick




Hotmail Returns The Favor: Says No To Comcast Emailers

from the this-again? dept

A couple months ago, we reported that a technical problem from Comcast meant that Comcast users couldn't email any Hotmail accounts. Someone commented on that story yesterday saying it was happening again. zanek writes in to let us know that this time, the problem appears to be on Microsoft's side: "Microsoft's MSN and Hotmail have apparently been brought to their knees by an as yet unidentified virus. As a result, Comcast reports subscribers are being blocked. Customers of Canadian ISP Cogeco are purportedly managing a bit better, with one out of five messages actually reaching their targets."

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    Alex, 2 Dec 2005 @ 12:55pm

    No Subject Given

    Since Comcast practically encourages spam, isn't it a good thing for them to not work with one of the largest email providers?

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    James Betts, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:05pm

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    Its about time. Comcast leaks spam emails like a siv.

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    Anonymous Coward, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:20pm

    No Subject Given

    I would like to know how it got the virus. From what I understand, hotmail is based off Unix servers and they're very hard to infect. I guess my question is, was it crippled by Microsoft managment or a clever Unix script, who's responsible?

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      Anonymous Coward, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:51pm

      Re: No Subject Given

      Hotmail is NOT run on unix servers. It's a Microsoft product: how do you think THAT would look?

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        jack johnson, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:56pm

        Re: No Subject Given

        Microsoft bought Hotmail awhile back...At least Im pretty sure they did...Plus have you ever used a Windows server before? I gurantee you their not using their own products....Yahoo sucks by the way.....

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        zcat, 2 Dec 2005 @ 2:13pm

        Re: No Subject Given

        Hotmail was run on *nix for a LONG time after microsoft bought it. Eventually they managed to get the web front-end onto Windows and IIS after a few failed attempts. It's not clear (or easy to find out) if they ever managed to migrate the back-end database.

        Microsoft's DNS is all handled by Akamai (and hosted on Linux). When windowsupdate was under threat they hid that behind Akamai's cache system (which runs on Linux). In short, Microsoft host stuff on Windows as much as they can for show, but when it's too important or the shit hits the fan they run to *NIX every time.

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    bob, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:25pm

    g-mail

    my g-mail still works great!

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    Moises Jaramillo, 2 Dec 2005 @ 1:43pm

    No Subject Given

    earlier today, I received, "550 permit denied" when trying to access my GMail, I don't know for how long it actually went on, but that's the only problem I've had with GMail. That's my primary email provider, no spam!!! I just wish they would add a calendar feature already.

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    Andrew Strasser, 2 Dec 2005 @ 2:14pm

    Comcast pro's and cons...

    6 megs for a little more than DSL. 10 times as much spyware and incredibly worthless material added to your computer(w/out not installing their wonderful back-up and maintenance programs and self installing the IP proxy servers). It balances out in the long run but only if you make them come out and make your bandwidth be right. They allow 15 db's out of phase either way which is a huge loss of bandwidth. I made them get mine where it seasonally stayed between 0 and 2 db's out of phase and it ran better than any champ out there. DSL now serves me well but I don't play near as intensive games as I did then either.

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      praetorian, 2 Dec 2005 @ 3:40pm

      Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

      Andrew, I don't know what spyware or "incredibly worthless material added to your computer" you're referring to. I've used Comcast for years, and I've yet to need one piece of software from them to enjoy 500% greater bandwidth than any DSL provider. And by the way, 15db loss is a widely-accepted standard loss budget for a majority of ISPs.

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        Jeremiah, 2 Dec 2005 @ 6:03pm

        Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

        Andrew is correct: Comcast field techs are instructed to install a 60+mb software package on your PC before they'll complete your cablemodem install. The package is laden with malware ala RealPlayer, some online weather service that installs a coupon "service", and a few more odds'n'ends I never bothered to look at before removing their software.

        Oh, the catch was this: in order to initialize the modem, they have to run a program that's part of the 60+mb download/install. Basically, you're SOL until you install thier POS.

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          Devin, 2 Dec 2005 @ 7:07pm

          Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

          Not True. I use comcast and they never installed anything. I used my own cable modem and all I had to do was call them and give them some information so I could connect. I got a new cable modem a little later and all I had to do was call them again.

          Comcast is responsible for spam and other things and is banned from many email, irc, and other servers but at least for me they didn't install any spam on my computer to use their service.

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      skeezer65134, 3 Dec 2005 @ 2:21pm

      Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

      I've also never installed any of the software they want to throw on. The one time I had an install from Time Warner, the guy said I needed the software to get full speed access. I showed him to my Linux box and he promptly left my place.

      I've also done a handful of self-installs and all you need is a phone number and the MAC from the cable modem. You should never need software for cable modems.

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        Graham, 3 Dec 2005 @ 9:13pm

        Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

        I dont think many people realize that NO software is required for your Comcast connection. Any spyware that comes down the pipe is the user's fault, not Comcasts.. its what you were viewing or installing that causes spyware, it is pretty much ISP independant.

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    Andy, 10 Apr 2006 @ 5:08pm

    Re: Comcast pro's and cons...

    It appears as of April 2006 that my Comcast connection out right refuses to allow me to use Outlook with Hotmail, using it via the web is fine. Is there any other way to connect to Hotmail other than Http through Outlook, will IMAP work?

    Andy

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