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  Factory, 10 Dec 2004 @ 4:00am

  
  

  Cynacism

  But I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years telemarketers can get away with calling ppl on the DNC and then it will become the very worst list to be on.

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  brent ashley (profile), 10 Dec 2004 @ 5:31am

  
  

  number portability

  What about number portability? How do the telemarketers know when you start using a number on your cell that used to belong to a land line? Is there a way to know definitively that a number is a cell phone before calling it?

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  eponymous geek, 10 Dec 2004 @ 8:03am

  
  

  Re: number portability

  this is exactly the problem I have. since my cell number used to be my landline number, I get calls (recordings and telemarketers without an existing business relationship) that are not legal on cell phones but are allowed to landlines. If there's a person on the other end I can tell them what they're doing wrong but what about a line hijacking recorded sales pitch? And while we're on the subject, what about telemarketers with old phone lists asking for my number's previous owner?

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  Anonymous Coward, 10 Dec 2004 @ 10:26am

  
  

  Telemarketrs suck

  Woopee if the email was a scam ... as a result, many more people have become aware of the Do Not Call List and registered #'s they don't want to be bothered on.
  
  

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  Paul, 10 Dec 2004 @ 7:58am

  
  

  Calls are coming into cell phones...

  We don't give out our cell phones to any businesses, but my wife and I have recently begun to receive calls on our Sprint PCS phones from telemarketers.
  
  Only the phone companies know the difference between a land line and a cell phone. And I don't believe that they are willing to give out that information, so I agreee with the other person who stated that number portability is going to cause lots of problems in this area.

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  Wil, 12 Dec 2004 @ 2:13pm

  
  

  No harm

  I use a cell exclusively, and have noticed in the past year or so the following tactic: Telemarketers, who shouldn't be calling my cell anyway, call my cell. Before I can say "cell phone, do not call me!" they hang up, so as to avoid the inevitable "remove this number from your call list" request.
  
  Yeah -- I want to do business with these people. Really. And I've got a dead Nigerian General's Swiss bank account number, too!

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  Andrew Klossner, 13 Dec 2004 @ 2:52pm

  
  

  You're already opted in!

  "Entirely opt-in" is effectively meaningless when the mobile phone company equates "signing up for service" with "opting in". Have a look at the Verizon service agreement at http://www.vzwshop.com/popups/customeragreement_popup.aspx?zc=97070
  and read:
  "we won't share personal information ... (This doesn't include your name, address, and wireless number. Unless you arrange otherwise with us and pay any required fee, we may list them in a public directory.)"
  

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  Mike (profile), 13 Dec 2004 @ 4:40pm

  
  

  Re: You're already opted in!

  None of the carriers actually do consider signing up for service as opting in for the directory. In fact, the example you cited, Verizon Wireless, has already decided not to be involved in any way with this particular directory...

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