by Mike Masnick

Realizing The Additional Expense Of Offshoring

from the no-surprise-there dept

Srinivasan Patel writes in with a link to the latest in a long line of stories talking about how offshoring isn't as cheap as people make it out to be. This isn't a surprise, at all. We've been saying this since people first started freaking out about offshoring last year. What's amusing, though, is that all the people who have been the most vehement against offshoring and for protectionism are the ones hyping up these articles - even though they actually give support to the idea that protectionism isn't needed.

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 Apr 2004 @ 9:16am

    You get 1/6 of what you paid for.

    You get what you pay for.

    You hire someone for 1/6th of what a skilled technology worker usually gets & you can expect 1/6th of the amount of satisfaction.


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    Bastard Sammy, 12 Apr 2004 @ 10:52am

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    The thing that blows my mind about this who off-shoring thing is that people are completely ignoring the productivity numbers. Seriously. American programmers might make more, but as a rule, they generate better product in shorter amounts of time, with less explaining, and fewer mistakes. It stems from the fact that Americans are English speakers and the project managers are generally English speakers. Indians, are not English speakers and need to go through more to understand what's going on with a given project. If productivity can be sacrificed for the sake of saving a couple of bucks, the companies doing it will find that the over all quality and customer satisfaction with their products will go down proportionately. But what do I know?

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 Apr 2004 @ 11:16am

    No Subject Given

    Get over it. Off shoring is here to stay unless the legislate to make it illegal. Just hope your company has the wisdom to recognize what is practical and productive to offshore and what isn't. Then hope your job is as important as you think it is.

    Luckily, I still have a strong back that is willing to labor. Physical presence doesn't offshore well.

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      Anonymous Coward, 12 Apr 2004 @ 1:32pm

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        Rick Bunker, 26 Apr 2007 @ 1:55pm

        Re: Re: No Subject Given

        Actually the word is spelled "cretin".

        It is best to spell epithets questioning the intellectual capacity of one with whom you disagree correctly, else you yourself might end up looking like a slack-wit.

        Or an idiot; moron; fool; imbecile; retard; stupid; tool; dolt; blockhead; donkey; dumbass; fuckwit; boob; dimwit; dork; dunce; ignoramus; jerk; simpleton; buffoon; nincompoop; nitwit;ass; asshole; dipshit; dope; dumbbell; dunderhead; fathead; half-wit; jackass; lunkhead; ninny; numskull; oaf; buffoon; birdbrain; or bonehead.



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    Peter F Bradshaw, 12 Apr 2004 @ 8:44pm

    Offshoring and outsourcing.

    I wish people would be a little more selective in their use of language. What the first person in the article was complaining about was "offshore outsourcing". I could walk out the door and down the road and outsource a project to an incompetent company. This would be "onshore outsourcing".
    There are two sorts of "offshoring" and the dynamics for both are different. One model is intra company offshoring which is what companies like IBM and GE have done. You can bet that, from the companies point of view, this model is quite successful.
    The other model is offshore outsourcing. With this model the problems are similar to onshore outsourcing. If you method of selecting a company involves the use of a coin then the results are likely to be the same irrespective of whether the company is onshore or offshore.
    However, in both models, there is an approx. 10:1 ratio in labor costs. Ultimately this means that onshore software developement cannot survive.

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