by Mike Masnick

Why Requiring Registration Does More Harm Than Good For News Sites

from the diminishing-your-readership? dept

We've been discussing news site registration lately, and Digital Deliverance has a piece where they explain why it's likely to backfire for almost all sites who try it. As we were just saying last week, sites that require registration and/or demographic info tend to get many fewer visitors and a ton of bogus data. As the Digital Deliverance piece points out, most sites aren't even doing anything with that dirty data - so it's completely useless. They're getting fewer visitors and bad data they don't even use for any reasonable purpose. This certainly doesn't help them get more advertising, but the fewer readers does mean they'll get less advertising. Doesn't seem like such a smart strategy - and yet more sites seem to be doing it every day.

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    Mathew, 12 Feb 2004 @ 5:08pm


    I don't think most websites that do it are interested in the actual data that comes from it -- although some bits (such as IP addresses) are worth something, and real e-mail addresses are good for mailing lists. I think most sites ask people to register because it requires some effort on their part, and even that small amount of effort makes them more valuable to advertisers. As a result, the site actually benefits even though the absolute number of users declines. It's the same with charging for access - advertisers are willing to pay more for those eyeballs, which makes up for the dropoff in traffic even if the subscription revenues don't.

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    Mike (profile), 12 Feb 2004 @ 5:53pm

    Re: registration

    Do you really believe that advertisers pay that much more for those eyeballs? I doubt it.

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    LittleW0lf, 12 Feb 2004 @ 6:26pm

    Re: registration

    Do you really believe that advertisers pay that much more for those eyeballs?

    Mike, I agree with Matthew, they are doing it because they can go to the advertisers and tell them "we have 30,000 registered users." I doubt they get much more for it, but I seem to remember someone telling me that most advertisers now want the minimum distribution size of a webpage before they come up with a deal on an advertisement scheme.

    I still agree with you that this is stupid. I've clicked "back" or closed the browser when pointed to a news story that required registration, and it wasn't because I was interested in getting the info for free (I was genuinely interested in reading the article, and probably would have paid to read it.) I am registered with a bunch of sites, but I cannot remember the damn passwords and instead of going through the rigermaroo of getting my password reset or sent to me through email, I just move on. I quickly loose interest in a article I have to spend 20 minutes to get.

    Most sites store my authentication info as a cookie, but I am careful with cookies, so sometimes that doesn't even work. If they had an easier way to do this, I'd use them.

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    Anonymous Coward, 12 Feb 2004 @ 7:17pm

    Re: registration

    I had to register on the NYT this week. Instead of a 30 something tech guy on the Left Coast, I was retired 93 year old female retired farmer in Texas. I forget the password and will re-register if there is anything else I find interesting (as the above commenter says, tracking the passwords, etc. just isn't worth it and registering takes a minute or two).

    My guess is that this isn't all that common, so the data is pretty useless.

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  5. identicon
    Newob, 12 Feb 2004 @ 7:43pm

    NYT Random Login Generator

    Whenever I read the New York Times online, I use this:

    Fnord! :)

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    aNonMooseCowherd, 13 Feb 2004 @ 1:01am

    search engines

    Plus, as has been pointed out here, requiring registration means not having the articles listed on search engines (unless the search engines register themselves), so fewer people will be directed to those sites.

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    VonSkippy, 13 Feb 2004 @ 8:29am

    Re: registration

    Simple. On ALL sites that require registration, use: name = "name" and password = "password". If you have a problem remembering those - please contact me about some realestate I have for sale. I've found many sites to already have that "user". It's not like it needs to be secure. Of course directed personal slander and profanity for names and passwords work as well, and might bring a small grin to the person who has to dredge thru those logs someday.

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    LittleW0lf, 13 Feb 2004 @ 12:21pm

    Re: registration

    On ALL sites that require registration, use: name = "name" and password = "password".

    Good idea, but many of these sites don't have that account, and I usually don't even register, so I have no intention of making this account on the ones that don't, but maybe others inclined to do so could instead.

    However, how do you get around the occasional prankster that changes the password on you and then promptly forgets it? The account is no longer accessible and you cannot create a new one.

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    aFreeMan, 13 Feb 2004 @ 3:04pm

    Dirty data

    2 million users registering dirty data ten times at each site ought to really fluff their feathers. Just a thought.

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Feb 2004 @ 3:17pm

    Re: Dirty data

    Geez, you're right.

    Yes, all this stuff = bad for advertisers, but it does make the publishers look better.

    Anyway, as a small online publisher, I hope more DO put their info behind the walls. It makes it easier for us to get our work to the top of the engines...

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    I forgot my password, 14 Feb 2004 @ 4:26am

    The softening up process

    I've always assumed that sites ask you to register so as to soften you up for the day they ask you to pay a subscription.

    A subscription service has to ask for a logon. If they go straight from open access to subscription, they're asking people to pay money for a more annoying service; if they've already conditioned you to the annoyance of logging on, that's at least one less hurdle to overcome (they hope) in getting you to subscribe.

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    QWERTY, 28 Sep 2005 @ 12:30am

    Dumb registration practices...

    It annoys me quite a bit, whenever news sites require registration. I move on and look elsewhere.

    I have already crossed out a few sites for this reason. Never returned to those sites. There are plenty of high quality news sites that do not require registration.

    Very dumb pratice methinks. What's the point of having a list of bogus users? Surely advertisers realise this as well.

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    Jesse, 22 Jul 2013 @ 4:33pm

    The problem is without registration you have a ton of libel, racism, who is sleeping with whom types of posts. You don't want to end up being a site like Topix which is pure trash. You have to find some form of moderation and there should be a registration process of some type or IP's posted when you type something.

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