New Techdirt Policy: No More Embedded Tweets

from the thinking-more-long-term dept

I sent this notice around internally here at Techdirt, but figured it might be useful to state this publicly. Historically, Techdirt would often embed tweets using the embed feature from Twitter. This was always somewhat risky for a few reasons, including that people could (and often did) delete tweets. Though Twitter’s embed feature had a somewhat graceful failstate, where deleted tweets would still show the missing text.

There’s always a risk with embedding anything that the service you’re using will disappear. We’ve had plenty of old embedded content disappear around here. For years, we used Docstoc to embed legal filings and other documents, and that disappeared. There are tradeoffs with any approach.

However, the erratic and unpredictable situation with Twitter right now is proving to be too risky to continue trusting that embedded tweets will survive. The new owner’s insistence that the company might need to declare bankruptcy, while he continues to drive advertisers away in droves, and comes up with “subscription” ideas that don’t seem poised to move the needle very far (not to mention firing a huge percentage of the workforce without a clear understanding of who was needed to keep the site running) all contribute to this uncertainty.

In response, I’ve asked everyone on the team that if they want to include tweets going forward that they should post screenshots of the tweet (which can link back to the original tweet) and then include the text (or a clear description) of the tweet in the text of the article.

I’m disappointed that we need to do this, as embedding is a nice feature, and a core part of how the internet should work. And while I’m not expecting Twitter to just disappear overnight (or, really, disappear at all), the odds of it happening have jumped up to a degree that we need to plan ahead, and this is how we’ll be doing it going forward.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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Twitter is not going to completely die any time soon.

However, with its haemorrhaging advertisers, staff and users recently, I wouldn’t be putting any real money on it remaining as relevant as it was before a petulant baby bought it. MySpace and Tumblr didn’t die, after all, maybe Twitter is following them where they went.

Maybe it’ll collapse far enough so that a reasonably sized GoFundMe could get it back in the hands of saner people?

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James Burkhardt (profile) says:

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I am glad you have no vision impairments. However, a screen reader can’t read the text in a screenshot. Other errors may prevent images from loading, particularly as long term data can be lost. The embed/screenshot is evidence of the tweet, proof you aren’t just making it up. The text below it is immune to link rot, less susceptible to corruption than the image, is accessible to those with low or no vision, and back when tweets were embedded, could have served as a buffer against the promised edit button. Why wouldn’t you do both?.

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WarioBarker (profile) says:

The new owner’s insistence that the company might need to declare bankruptcy, while he continues to drive advertisers away in droves, and comes up with “subscription” ideas that don’t seem poised to move the needle very far (not to mention firing a huge percentage of the workforce without a clear understanding of who was needed to keep the site running)

On the contrary, given his behavior since April I strongly suspect Musk knows exactly what he’s doing – burning Twitter down to “own da libs”.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I’m always interested by how some brands gain recognition and some don’t.

Typically it’s a combination of marketing, widescale availability, and hitting upon the right brand name. Where I’m from, I’ve rarely heard people refer to bandages as such⁠—they’re almost always called Band-Aids, even when they’re not that specific brand.

PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Yes, it’s just interesting how different things gain traction. As another example, people where I’m from with often still refer to “Hoover” instead of “vacuum cleaner”, and even though they’ve been the top brand for some time now nobody’s suddenly saying “Dyson” instead. Whereas, we’d refer to “plaster” or “bandage” and not any particular brand of such things if we cut ourselves.

It’s interesting to note the differences, not just the different terms used on each side of the pond, but which brands seem to stick.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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Not really. The problems with Twitter are not due to Twitter, so to speak. The problems are the network effects that amplify the voices of bad actors, and the tendency for journalists to go the easy route and just quote mine Twitter for “stories” and easy traffic rather than practice actual journalism.

Twitter dying might remove an easy avenue for such things, but you’re not going to solve the problems of bad journalists and attention whores by killing that one outlet.

יונתן פֿאליק , عطا الله عفلق (profile) says:

So What do Techdirt's White Racist Dummies Think of My Litigation Now?

Despite Musk’s avowed free speech policy, Twitter has basically told me to bring it on.

You can read the current draft at: petition to SCOTUS for a writ of certiorari to the Court of Appeals for the First Circuit.

You can read a short summary at 9th Amendment Challenge to Social Medium Abuse.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: So What do Techdirt's White Racist Dummies Think of My Litigation Now?

Speaking for exactly one person, I have developed some views which I am happy to share in response to your inquiry.

  1. I will not put up with people annoying my guests in my living room. This applies whether living room is real or electronic.
  2. The term ``Palestinian” is not well defined. There is no country by that name, and the geographic area (cf ``European”) includes people with conflicting geographic and territorial goals.
  3. The SCOTUS takes a tiny fraction of the cases offered each term. Your odds are therefore not all that good. This presumes meritorious case, which is not clear from your links.
  4. How sure are you that we are mostly racist? For that matter, I think I have seen comments by what seem to be fairly smart people here. White, yeah, you got me there, except maybe a little pink if I have been out in the sun.
  5. It would be nice if preview worked like it did on the old site. Sometimes technology seems to move backward.
LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Good

Embedding is a crock. On so many levels,
First, it’s clearly cross site and thus trips, correctly, many security implementations.
Second, it’s temporary. It only exists as long as the source does.
3rd, with active media, it could cause issues with the user by auto-play.

And for me, and million of other non-twitter users, there’s the image-as-a-link issue. Clicking in a picture to expand it, that is linked to the source, brings the page to 🤮 twitter.

Hosting is always the best, most proper choice. When that fails post a link.

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