And Now The Copia Institute Tells The Fifth Circuit That Texas Doesn’t Get To Regulate The Internet Either
from the deja-two-thirty dept
As Mike noted the other day, state after state has been playing “fuck around and find out” with all sorts of bills that fundamentally interfere with the First Amendment and Section 230. So far Florida has already wasted over $700k in taxpayer dollars trying to defend their indefensibly censorial law. And now Texas is setting fire to the public treasury as well, as it appeals the injunction of their stupid attempt to control what people can say on the Internet.
So last week the Copia Institute did again what we did when it was Florida that refused to take the judicial hint after its law was enjoined, and filed an amicus brief at the appeals court, this time at the Fifth Circuit. It is, in many ways, a similar brief as before, because when we file these briefs we file usually wearing two hats: as a longtime commenter on issues of tech policy (including free speech and platform liability), and as an entity that very much relies upon the constitutional and statutory rights that the First Amendment and Section 230 afford. The more people think that tech policy regulation is only about “Big Tech” and not about everyone else, including your friendly neighborhood tech news site, the more of a disaster any proposed regulation affecting the Internet will be.
The briefs did, of course, vary a little because there are some differences in the laws. Texas’s, for instance, moronic though it is in its own way, at least didn’t try to exempt businesses that also happen to own theme parks in its state. Florida’s law was also a little more focused on favoring certain media outlets on social media, whereas Texas was more preoccupied with favoring certain speakers, which made the specific mechanics of each law a little different but no less terrible in their application and inevitable impact on online speech. Because no matter how much either state claims its law is about furthering speech, the results of each law, if allowed to come into effect, will be the silencing of it, because these regulatory attacks on the constitutional (First Amendment) and statutory (Section 230) rights platforms depend on to facilitate others’ speech are simply not sustainable if we would like any platforms – big, small, or otherwise – to remain around to facilitate any of it.
And so that’s what we explained in our brief. First in general terms to address the fundamental (if not also willful) misunderstanding of how the First Amendment and Section 230 operate – misapprehensions of which having clearly informed the Texas legislature, as well as the attorney general’s defense of the bill – and then by using the Copia Institute as Exhibit A for how this law, if allowed to come into effect, would hurt us too, even though ostensibly we weren’t directly targeted by it. While it seems pretty obvious, both on the face of the bill and from the attorney general’s defense of it, that what Texas really wanted to achieve with its law was to outright be able to dictate what people could say on the Internet, the cataclysmic and speech-smothering reach of any of these efforts to regulate Internet platforms is often much broader than any crowing politician is prepared to admit.
And so we need to keep showing up in these cases to say so.
Filed Under: 1st amendment, content moderation, section 230, social media, texas
Comments on “And Now The Copia Institute Tells The Fifth Circuit That Texas Doesn’t Get To Regulate The Internet Either”
“Texas’s, for instance, moronic though it is in its own way, at least didn’t try to exempt businesses that also happen to own theme parks in its state”
It’s funny how these stories develop. At that point, Florida was trying to bend over backwards to protect Disney in how its laws are written. Fast forward to today, and Disney are a right-wing boogeyman for daring to make a very weak and wooly objection to a wrong-headed and badly written anti-LBGTQ law.
“Texas was more preoccupied with favoring certain speakers”
I’m sure someone will be along shortly to try and explain how a state government favouring certain speech and/or speakers is consistent with the First Amendment. I predict some version of “censorship doesn’t count if I agree with its targets” and “particular corporations magically became government agencies due to some criteria I just made up”.
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Because no matter how much either state claims its law is about furthering speech, the results of each law, if allowed to come into effect, will be the silencing of it, because these regulatory attacks on the constitutional (First Amendment) and statutory (Section 230) rights platforms depend on to facilitate others’ speech are simply not sustainable if we would like any platforms – big, small, or otherwise – to remain around to facilitate any of it.
Anti-moderation bills like this are to furthering and protecting speech as mandating that napalm be used by homeowners on termite infestations is to pest control: So long as you ignore all the negative consequences it works great in the short-term, but you have to overlook a whole lot of damage to maintain that view.
These bills are indeed aimed at protecting speech however what’s left out is that only certain speech is considered worthy of protecting(hell, Texas even outlined what speech they were particularly concerned about and ooh boy did they show their hand there…), with the fact that that ‘protection’ comes at the cost of trampling the first amendment rights of the platforms hypocritically brushed aside as not important and the fact that by that protection everyone else will have to deal with toxic people and posts, potentially driving them off and silencing them given even less consideration.
All speech and first amendment rights may be equal but to those pushing and supporting bills like this some speech and ‘rights’ are clearly to be treated more equal than others.
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Arnt the republicans the ones demanding that SITES not to Censor ANYTHING posted?
Which has failed a few times as Their Personal sites Fall into the cesspool.
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“Anti-moderation bills”. Ha ha ha! No, they’re anti-censorship bills, degenerate. Full stop. And you should be happy that – so far – Americans have decided not to use force to protect citizens’ rights and American children from the excesses of you anti-White leftists and perverts. SO FAR. Keep pushing, though.
Techdirt Groomers in 2022: “Why do Americans despise us, and why are we always being accused of Orwellian Newspeak?”
In the 1960s, liberals were for free speech and against corporations. How times have changed.
Ah the legal profession, taking 36 pages to say…
“Clearly Violates the First Amendment, Why are we even here?”
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The point of having a lawyer draw you a picture is that every point in the frame is colored in. A quality picture can take a few more than the standard slapdash 1,000 word model.
“Texas’s, for instance, moronic though it is in its own way…”
I would instead have gone with ‘foolish’, ‘irresponsible’, or ‘asinine’ given the fact that ‘moronic’ is an ableist slur targeting people with mild intellectual disability.
the aim is to get EVERYONE kicked off the Internet, except the entertainment industries, in particular the movie and music sections, because they shot themselves in the ass by thinking the internet would fail, that no one would want to use it after the first 6 weeks and it would be, basically, either upfor sale or open to being taken over. it wasn’t, it isn’t and it never should be. these industries want to destroy the internet except for what they want to use it for and what they want to allow it to be used for! the only additions, obviously, being anything to do with the security services which will again be expecting to be able to ban everyone unless they give permission! and what is the biggest stab in the heart is it’s all down to money and control, as always! fuck the people as long as the money bosses can get a fortune from something and we voted for the fuckers backing these actions into office!
I work in .gov, different state, different scale, but it’s amazing how little money means these days. $700K in legal, for a state, is pennies in the jar. It doesn’t matter.
This will only change if these politicians lose their jobs and their calculation is that this nonsense will enhance the likelihood of keeping their jobs. And they’re probably right.
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“$700K in legal, for a state, is pennies in the jar. It doesn’t matter”
Yeah, but the same government will state that they have to cut programs of that size that are way more useful and important due to budget restrictions.
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Whaaaa? An anti-White leftist Techdirt sycophant works for the government? Who would have imagined?
The only actual surprise is that it’s a state government you work for, not the feds.