Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
from the may-i-have-a-word dept
This week, our first place winner on the insightful side is an anonymous comment on our post about why moderating content does more to support free speech:
People want different content, gaming or tech forums host tech or gaming duscussions or comments,for example if you post weird extremist content or political content it will be removed or blocked.
The value of the open Internet is it allows people to make their own content or forums to communicate and form community’s that might be quiet niche or host for example lgbt or minority forums that might not exist before the web was invented
Moderation is essential to prevent forums being flooded with spam ads or trolls that harass other users
Some authoritarian country’s ban forums or certain apps that might be used to allow free speech by minoritys religious groups or critics of the government
We cannot take free speech for granted Fosta has taken away the right of sex workers to organise or communicate online and many platforms removed ordinary dating ads to avoid legal action
In second place, it’s Stephen T. Stone with a response to a comment from an unsurprising source claiming that “getting censored proves your opinion is the strongest”:
Hey, Koby: If a Twitter account connected to Al-Qaeda posts a political opinion—one that doesn’t violate any laws or any of Twitter’s rules—and Twitter bans that account anyway, does that mean Al-Qaeda’s opinion is the strongest?
For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we start out with a comment from Thad about the users of platforms like Parler admitting they are no fun when they can’t annoy and attack people who don’t agree with them:
Of course. It’s the same reason Techdirt’s resident trolls spend so much of their lives on a website they don’t even like: because they enjoy making other people’s experience with the site less pleasant.
Telling a Twitter troll to just go use Parler or whatever is like telling a subway flasher they can just go to a nude beach. It misses the point of why they’re doing what they’re doing. They don’t want a place where it’s socially acceptable to do it; the entire point is that they’re doing something socially unacceptable.
Next, it’s cpt kangarooski with a response to another complaint about social media moderation:
“What people want, on systems that aim to be neutral platforms for literally hundreds of millions of people to speak their minds, is for those platforms not to silence people on issues for which there are plentiful supporters on all sides.”
First, who says that they aim to be neutral platforms? If a site is moderating in a way that supports one position and does not support (or even impedes) another, then I’d say you’ve got your answer right there as to whether the site intends to be neutral or not. Since there is nothing obligating them to be neutral, and since they’re treated identically by the law whether they’re neutral or not, what’s the problem?
Second, what does it matter whether there are plentiful supporters on all sides? There are, sadly, plenty of neo-nazis. There are people who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There are plenty of people all around the world who support killing people for stupid reasons of religion, race, sexuality, etc. Popularity does not mean that their ideas have merit, or should even be tolerated. Often to refuse to put up with such things is both classy and indicative of good morals.
Indeed, it doesn’t matter at all whether everyone in the world but the operator of a site holds an opinion which the site operator finds unacceptable, or whether only one person in the world does; either way, there is nothing in the least bit wrong about the site banning that particular opinion.
Over on the funny side, our first place winner is Bobvious with a comment about forensic instructor Arpad Vass teaching cops to use witchcraft:
Oh! I thought it said Vapid Ass.
Never mind.
While we’re at it. If you detect bones by their piezoelectrickery, shouldn’t the diviners be using auto-ossuarial emissions isolation shields to prevent their own perturbations from interfering with the emissions of the deceased? The signal to noise ratio must be severely compromised.
Even worse is the metacarpal-carpal-phalangic triboelectric flex-field which fluctuates with each heart pulse and the quadricep correction loop. This subharmonic ring-modulation extends from the palmar region and into the 2nd and 3rd cosmic transmo-capitulators. These had better urgently be added to the other 17 scientific principles.
In second place, it’s James Burkhardt with another response to the idea that being censored proves you’re right:
Quite right! Man imagine how great the world would have been if those US SJWs hadn’t gone into Germany in the 40s and virtue signaled until Hitler canceled himself. Let us remind ourselves of the strongest opinion of them all, the superiority of the Aryan Race.
Poe’s Law Disclaimer: /sarcasm.
For editor’s choice on the funny side, we’ve got a continuation of the riff that won first place. First wshuff had a question:
Could any of that be fixed with a reverse tachyon pulse from the main deflector dish?
And Bobvious returned with more information:
Only if you use a 7th-tuple orthopantomographic Tensor Hilbertian with the phase corrector in free-synchro and the capture-and-release hysteresis concentrator coupled to the Bose-Einstein Condensate distillation enhancer, which must be obverse to the evanescent Paulian offset in the ground plane.
That’s all for this week, folks!
Comments on “Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt”
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Lets do a FB.
If Someone creates a section and there are No comments to What that person posts.
ITS HIS PROBLEM.
If that section allows posts, its the posters problem.
Any section of site that allows freedom of speech, has the problem of WHAT not to allow. The Problem is to let everyone say what they NEED. BUT limit it to sections, and STICK to the topics. Even with an offshoot of the topic, is fine.
The only Problems come with EXPRESSION. You CANT insult other directly, you cant use Curses/Cussing/derogatory words.
Creative expressions allowed.
If you drag Links/books/outside data into the discussion, YOU are liable for it. BE SURE of your sources. Allot has been disproven(ASK THE FBI).
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Sufficient, as you can harass someone, or some group without being insulting or being derogatory, such as bringing up the prior name and or sex of a trans person as a matter of fact.
BOBVIOUS?
That is not Public knowledge, and here is a DMCA STRIKE.
Typo
Shouldn’t that be “won first place”?
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“Shouldn’t that be “won first place”?”
Use whichever won you want.
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Indeed. At some point that sentence was going to be “the one that won first place” and I guess the wrong word survived 🙂 fixing!
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I think the pedantists one this won.
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I think the pedantists one this won.
As is our wan.
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A pedantist? But I only needed to see a linguistic hygenist!
"Trump's Truth Social app branded a disaster"
*”Truth Social might look like Twitter, but it isn’t available on Android phones, web browsers or, apparently, to most people outside the US. ” https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60922717
Truth Social chief executive Devin Nunes said its goal was to be “fully operational” by the end of March.
Would this be because he’s still distracted by his “fully armed and operational cattle station”
Another study found downloads have fallen by as much as 95%.
*Mr Trump retains star quality and any “free speech” app would bend over backwards to have him on its platform. *
However, when you bend that far backwards you run the risk of irreversible cranio-proctal interment.
Since Torrentfreak no longer allows comments, I think it’s fair to post this here so Techdirt can carry on with the Schadenfreude: https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-troll-accuses-defense-of-extortion-and-unjust-enrichment-220403/
So Colette Pelissier, after managing to fuck up following multiple court orders by refusing to show up, share evidence, or pay court mandated fines (as covered by Techdirt here, somehow thought that the best possible response she could have was to countersue the defendant, the defense legal team, and the judge for harassment, defamation, “extortion and unjust enrichment”. I think the best part of the claim is the assertion that she was having several “fraud and extortion” attorneys looking at a collection court dockets and transcripts to build her case… consider that no more than a few months ago, she was insisting that she couldn’t possibly respond to court orders because no lawyers were willing to take her copyright cases pro bono.
It’s like she looked at how Paul Hansmeier was doing and decided to say “Hold my expensive wine I shouldn’t have been able to afford.”
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She is displaying either an untold amount of arrogance or an unfathomable amount of stupidity, and I’m not sure which would be worse.
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I’ve seen this defense before.
The ending to if the law is on your side bang on the law, if the law is not on your side bang on the table, if you’re out ideas chew on the end of the table and declare you are Napoleon.
I’m enjoying her claim that the Judge denied them getting a lawyer, when it was her bad faith that made her lawyer quit.
I mean on the 1 hand her antics are entertaining, but on the other hand I gotta wonder what caused this mental damage. I know they’ve ignored most of the laws protecting performers in the past, so its a possibility an unchecked STI.
Of course it could just be that she is cracking under the strain of having been the face for MM & is starting to understand why hubby kept putting somethings in her name rather than his. That the “financial issues” they had with Lippy weren’t Lippy hiding cash but someone else…
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It’s a common symptom of IP maximalism.
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Copyright is brain damage. – Nina Paley
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She is displaying either an untold amount of arrogance or an unfathomable amount of stupidity
In this case ‘and’ would probably be more appropriate.
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Arrogance and Stupidity all in one package?
How efficient of them.
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Ah the crocodile tears and wild tantrum of a parasite facing consequences for their actions and thinking that the best defense for the indefensible is a laughably bad offense…
Remember that the scammers pushing Ivermectin had kickback deals with shady online pharmacies for prescribing it.
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So Weird
Some people here appear to have mistakenly taken what the 1st Amendment allows as the sine qua non of free speech. Of course there is something wrong with a moderator silencing one side of a conversation. First, it prevents the conversation from happening between the people who want to have it. Second, it gives onlookers the false impression that the non-silenced side is universal or prevalent. Since when does someone being allowed to do something mean that there is nothing wrong with them doing it?
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Some people have the mistaken idea that all platforms should allow all speech. Also, they fail to grasp the concept that conversation can take place with different sides publishing on different platform, which was and is how political conversation were and are held in the newspapers.
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Since when was that anyone’s argument?
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Notice how nobody with any understanding or support for the concept of freedom of speech has ever said what Hyman Rosen does.
Re: sine qua non
Word of the day calendars, is there anything they can’t do?
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Depends on what the “conversation” entails. If it’s about whether Morbius is a sack of shit disguised as a big-budget action film, sure, moderators silencing the one person willing defend that movie is a shitty move. But if that “conversation” is about, say, whether queer people deserve the civil rights as non-queer people? You won’t see me complaining if the “anti” side on that conversation gets squashed. (And if some alt-right shitpit wants to silence the “pro” side, that’s their protected right to be a bunch of thin-skinned bigots.)
If people want to have that conversation and the mods don’t want it to happen on their property, the people can go have that conversation elsewhere. Freedom of association means nothing without freedom from association.
Or—as per my “do queer people deserve civil rights” example above—it proves the mods refuse to entertain bullshit.
I’ve literally posted “having the right to do a thing doesn’t make it the right thing to do” multiple times on this site.
…did Koby just accidentally admit that his posts are less compelling than the spam the Techdirt mods delete?
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Koby claims being “censored” is proof of strong opinions, while he’s one of the biggest champions of censorship.
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Maybe when he said “strong” he was referring to the smell.