‘I Can’t Breathe’ Man Told Officers 12 Times In 30 Seconds Before They Sentenced Him To Death For Driving Under The Influence
from the professional-killers-just-out-there-roaming-the-streets dept
Those are words universally recognized as an expression of respiratory distress.
Unless you’re a cop.
Then they’re perceived as, at best, non-compliance. At worst, they’re perceived as active resistance.
“I can’t breathe,” many people have told the officers currently choking the life out of them. In most documented cases, these people have ended up dead. Law enforcement refuses to see the connection between these cries for help and the corpses they created, ranging from Eric Garner’s killing by NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo to George Floyd’s murder by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.
And they have refused to accept any responsibility for the protests and riots their actions have touched off for decades, preferring to accuse the public of being incapable of understanding the nuances of excessive force deployment or complaining that doing their jobs lawfully is just too difficult.
So it’s unsurprising we have more of the same to contend with. This killing occurred two months before George Floyd’s murder but is only coming to light now because the victim’s family has managed to force the recording out of the hands of the people who killed their loved one.
Mr. Bronstein was driving in Burbank around 1 a.m. on March 31, 2020, when he was pulled over, Mr. Carrillo said. He was about five minutes from the house in Burbank where he lived with his father, Ms. Palomino said.
The officers gave him a breathalyzer test, which showed that he was under the legal limit, but they suspected that he was under the influence of a narcotic and obtained a warrant to draw his blood, according to a police report.
They placed him in handcuffs and brought him to the station parking lot near Pasadena. The video, which was filmed by a police officer using what appeared to be a hand-held camera, showed Mr. Bronstein kneeling before the officers, his arms behind his back.
“This is wrong,” Mr. Bronstein said.
“You’re bringing the fight to this, not us,” an officer told him.
“I’m not fighting at all,” he responded.
The officer told him to take a seat and provide his arm.
“This is your last opportunity,” the officer said. “Otherwise you’re going face down on the mat and we’re going to keep on going.”
Mr. Bronstein sighed and then said, “I just need a minute, OK, please?”
His face crumpled.
“I can’t do it,” he said, and then quickly added, “I’ll do it willingly.”
But by that point, the officers had grabbed him and forced him down on the mat.
“Please don’t,” Mr. Bronstein said, repeating over and over again that he would cooperate.
“It’s too late,” one of the officers said. For nearly two minutes, Mr. Bronstein screamed and gasped, telling the officers at least a dozen times, “I can’t breathe.”
The entire recording can be seen here. Content warning: contains murder.
The video shows Bronstein was unresponsive as early as four minutes into the recording. It goes on for another 14 minutes after that as officers check his pulse, slap him in the face, and otherwise make it appear they haven’t just killed someone. It’s not until nearly the end of the recording — a full ten minutes after Bronstein stops moving — that officers attempt to give the man oxygen, shortly before deciding it’s too late for that and begin CPR.
No officers were disciplined for this. It was not captured on their dashcams, which might have led to this incident coming to light earlier. It was apparently captured by a camera (or cell phone) operated by someone present. The lawyer for the family speculates it may have been recorded for training purposes.
If so, no one’s learning anything from it yet, other than it is possible to obtain recordings not captured on on-board equipment through discovery. From what’s been reported, no officers were disciplined and the recording was filed away someplace the California Highway Patrol thought no one would ever find it.
The coroner proved useful as well, aligning the cause of death with the official narrative. (To be fair, the coroner would have had no access to the recording and would have to rely solely on reports created by officers as to the events leading up to Bronstein’s death.)
The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s office later determined Bronstein died from “acute methamphetamine intoxication during restraint by law enforcement.” It listed the manner of death as “undetermined.”
Perhaps this might be revised now that it’s clear there were at least six uniformed contributing factors.
The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office says it’s “reviewing the case,” which doesn’t exactly sound like an investigation. And, to be fair to the DA’s office, it’s not as though CHP officials approached them after the incident occurred to see if criminal charges might be warranted.
It’s another senseless killing and another one committed by officers who refuse to believe anyone is truly compliant until they’re “unresponsive.” And it’s one more data point showing that being asphyxiated is about the only guaranteed outcome when officers are informed by the person they’re choking the life out of that they can’t breathe.
Filed Under: california, chp, edward bronstein, police brutality
Comments on “‘I Can’t Breathe’ Man Told Officers 12 Times In 30 Seconds Before They Sentenced Him To Death For Driving Under The Influence”
six uniformed contributing factors
Who will be known by the psedonyms M, U, R, D, E, and R.
If only...
If only there was a way to restrain someone that didn’t carry a high risk and/or guarantee of cutting off the person’s air supply, I mean can you imagine how monstrously indifferent if not outright homicidal it would be to use a method of restraint that carries good odds of killing a person if there was any other option?
The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office says it’s “reviewing the case,” which doesn’t exactly sound like an investigation.
The murder was recorded start to finish, if that level of evidence was available for just about any other person you can be damn sure the DA would not be talking about ‘reviewing the case’ but about the murder charges they were bringing. Being vague in such a instance reeks of ‘stonewall and delay in the hopes the heat dies down and it can be brushed under the rug’.
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Don’t do meth, kids. Don’t do meth.
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Doing meth shouldn’t be punished with a death penalty.
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You’ll end up dying at the hands of the people whose job is supposedly to protect you.
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Koby, not even once.
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Why is it you don’t take your own advice, Koby?
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Fuck you you mother fucking piece of shit!!
Call yourself lucky that you have never had to struggle with substance abuse and chemical addictions.
But for the people who do struggle, it is one of the hardest battles in life to try and overcome.
So don’t you dare sit in your cozy fucking computer room and lay judgement down on people who have serious fucking problems.
You are just another fucking piece of human shit.
Just go fuck off and rot in hell!!
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This is Koby, kids.
Koby is a ideologial supporter of the Republican party. This means he is an ardent supporter of terrorism, white supremacy (modern day Nazis), pedophiles (probably) and has zero empathy for anyone who does not support what he supports.
Don’t be Koby, kids.
In a just society, all the supervisor of those officers would be facing charhes of assisting a criminal to escape justice.
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Instead we have DAs, judges, and talking head who can’t wait to get the murderers off the hook fast enough.
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That was going to be my question.
Did the officers bury the evidence themselves or did their supervisors help them? Who else was involved in this cover-up, including the DA who’s claiming to review it rather than file charges and then let everyone see the evidence in public court, in front of a jury.
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I suspect that the explanation is a lot more horrifying in that no-one involved thought there was anything that *needed* to be covered up and they just buried it because it would be a hassle if it went public.
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Maybe don’t drive under the influence instead of threatening to murder me and my son. I don’t see any of you cowards stepping up to protect my daughter from the guy rushing her with a knife.
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Yes or no: Should drunk driving be a death penalty offense?
Corollary: Should that sentence be carried out at the moment of arrest rather than after a proper trial, verdict, and appeals process?
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In case you weren’t aware, one of the four teenagers shot to death by the deranged teen who’s parents bought him a gun for shits and giggles, one of those teens rushed Ethan to try to stop him, died trying to protect his classmates.
Heck one time I protected a woman I worked with so she get her kids and pack a bag while her crack addict boyfriend was in a paranoid fit, with nasty little stun gun I had.
My mom stepped in between some woman literally kicking a little 3 yr old kid to stop her, got attacked by the woman who thought she had a right to kick a small child.
My husband used to do security when he was younger, back in Alaska. He dealt with drunk and disorderly all the time, no one got killed over it.
Stop pretending that nobody will ever step up to stop an act of violence. Stop pretending that society should tolerate murder like the above for the rare instance cops actually show up in time to stop an attack, and for an average of less than 1/2 of murder cases being solved with practically limitless resources and scientific innovation they never had in the past (when more murders occurred).
Oh, I guess you didn’t read that the cop flight bullshit you are peddling is more propaganda to manipulate public perception to give them more of what they want. Just like they turn a blind eye to actual rioters causing destruction and setting fires, while focusing on pepper spraying moms, grandmas, for not dispersing, & obvious members of the press covering the events.
And I know meth is a real problem, but it’s an upper, and I notice an inordinate number of folks who die in police custody, especially when marked with the entirely fabricated excited delirium cause of death, have toxic levels of meth in their system. Makes me wonder if the postmortem blood testing for meth is scientifically accurate. Just saying.
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Coroners are typically employed by the police department and don’t even need to be experts, and routinely cover for their on-duty officers.
So if a body is brought in by police who say meth then methamphetamine will manifest at detectable levels in the cadaver.
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I can ask you the same, why didn’t you stop the police officer who tased an innocent man in front of his children multiple times? He even tased the man’s genitals for no other reason than shit and giggles.
Grow the fuck up and see the world for what it is, police brutality is becoming the norm because people like you continue to excuse their violent behavior.
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It’s always horrifying to see just how eager some people are to all but boast about how they think that so very many crimes/’crimes’ deserve not just the death penalty but that it should be applied on the scene by whichever cop wants to pad their kill count without going through that pesky ‘trial’ nonsense.
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Speaking of meth, it you quit your habit, you’ll stop seeing hallucinations like that one.
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I don’t see any of you cowards stepping up to protect my daughter from the guy rushing her with a knife.
Why doesn’t she protect herself? You’d think with all you law enforcement types around, it’d be second nature.
If she’s too young, then where the fuck were YOU, “Dad”?
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Again, I’m sorry that your son decided it was too dangerous to be out on the streets before he managed to get his first kill, and that the pants shitting fear you feel every day is only soothed by you fondling the gun that promises to allow you to kill.
The rest of us will be over here participating in a sane society where it’s still possible to oppose extrajudicial executions because coward don’t want their murder sprees to be defunded in favour of other professionals who would make them safer.
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Bronstein threatened to murder you and your son? Is that on the video (I didn’t watch it because I don’t want to watch a guy get murdered)?
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And doong what you prescribed is no panacea to this problem.
If anything, it means you are either so far gone that you don’t realize these totalitarians will come for you next or you are one of them.
Either way, you’re fucked regardless.
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Driving under the influence shouldn’t carry the death penalty, and any penalty for a crime should not be carried out without due process of law, which should include—at a minimum—a trial by jury before a judge or a plea of “no contest” or a guilty plea as well as the opportunity to appeal a guilty verdict or ruling by the judge.
To the best of my knowledge, absolutely no one has threatened to murder you or your son at all, certainly not any of us or the victim/suspect in this case. I don’t even know or care who you or your son is. Nor did the victim/suspect appear to threaten anyone at all. This is a complete non sequitur.
If you have been threatened, that’s bad, but it also has absolutely nothing to do with this case.
Again, I have no idea who you are, and you don’t know who I am. I will likely never be in the same area as your daughter or that guy. The fact that I haven’t and likely will not protect your daughter specifically from a guy rushing her with a knife is unremarkable even if I was a police officer. Heck, you didn’t even actually claim that your daughter has ever been rushed by a guy with a knife. That said, if I saw someone rush someone else with a knife, I probably would try to protect that person because that’s the right thing to do. I doubt I’d be that effective, but I’d at least try to help.
More importantly, this is all irrelevant. The guy in this story did not have a knife and was unarmed. As such, this has nothing to do with the article.
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davec is no stranger to cop-sucking like the above, because he’s a 70 year old boomer with a son and daughter-in-law he pulled out of the police force after he claimed that people were making fun of his kid for being a cop.
You can look up the article “Minneapolis Cops Who Watched Officer Derek Chauvin Kill George Floyd Convicted On Federal Charges” on March 3rd for more of his trash arguments.
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Every time I see some repulsive alt-right freak advocate capital punishment, administered on the spot without benefit of judge and jury, for something which normally carries a fine and the revocation of driving privileges, I wonder whether it isn’t, in fact, a good thing for humanity to gracefully exit the stage.
How the hell do you get up in the morning and face a mirror? Or get through the day not murdering people in droves, if that’s your outlook on other people?
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I look forward to all the inbred yahoos in Rust Belt and Bible Belt states getting “appropriate justice” for all the Driving Under the Influence that they do then.
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“I don’t see any of you cowards stepping up to protect my daughter from the guy rushing her with a knife.”
Yeah I don;t get paid to break up domestic disputes.
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Also, such disputes are regularly broken up in countries where the cops don’t carry guns, usually without loss of life or serious injury. One wonders why US cops need the ability to shoot to kill in order to do the same.
For another (locally) famous case, consider that of Lloyd Stevenson from 1985.
It won’t be long now
Before someone who gets pulled over decides to shoot first because they feared for their life.
In my opinion when a cop causes the death of a person in such way he/she should get a life sentence. You waste a life in a clear abuse of power after the victim repeatedly said you were using excessive force with such detailed footage? Life sentence. And the others should get some jail time for letting a murder happen right under their noses.
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I mean, a life for a life.
If only someone had looked to see how red & purple his face was right after the knee was on his neck…
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If only the cops didn’t get violent because someone refused to lick their boots.
Never
trust a cop. NEVER. There is no such thing as a “good cop”. They will lie, cheat, steal, and murder to protect themselves from being held accountable.
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Good cops do exist, TD has covered a few in the past, the problem is they have an unfortunate tendency to become former good cops because when your co-workers are the sort to think that respecting right and lives is optional someone who doesn’t share that mindset and isn’t willing to look the other way isn’t going to feel or be very welcome among those that do.
That said with no way to know if you’re dealing with what might as well be the equivalent of a unicorn until it’s too late your statement stands as all too true, never trust a cop.
another episode of disgraceful conduct by those people who are supposed to be ‘looking after the interests of the public’, not doing their best to reduce the numbers of people under their protection! how the fuck can any democratic government, the so-called leader of the ‘free world’ the nation that is supposedly at the forefront of privacy, freedom and protection of the people, the ‘land of the free, home of the brave, yet has security personnel that kill just for the sake of it, think nothing of it and not only expect to but are ably helped to get away with it?? that is so scarey!!
Imagine if you were not capable to communicate that you could not breathe at all! Imagine being a Deaf man with hands handcuffed behind back, not able to sign to communicate that you cant breathe, being choked on the steps of a stairway, for five minutes, until your neck got broken, with your wife and two children,less than 20 meters away in the same building. That happened with Carl Dupree in the early 1990s. The people who did this to him didnt go to jail either. Apparently because Dupree fought until the last minute, and the person employing the illegal chokehold was not identified (though it was known that the security officer called ‘Spider’ did it and of course if you were being choked to death you would have fought against it)
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Tell me their names and adresses and i will gladly kill these cops for free. Watching them die is literally orgasmic for me. Not exaggerating
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Your strawman is bad and you should feel bad.
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If Moldova is that boring for you cross over to Ukraine, I hear they are looking for your sort. Though frankly you sound more like one of Vlad’s goons.
What can be seen?
Person taken out doors.
Person knelled on Heavy Pad.(WTF)
6(?) Officers surround him(the Whole station?)(Coercion?)
DEMANDING, that he give permission for a blood test? (Then there wasnt a warrant?)
How many people needed to hold a person FACE DOWN? While handcuffed? (I declare Chicken shits)
Not 1-2, 5.
WHO in this forum knows HOW to check a pulse?
Who knows the problems with a person on Meth? High blood pressure, hyper system. What happens if you add adrenaline to the system?
When would you have Turned him over and checked him? At least to check his breathing if you cant get a pulse.
Could go on, but I dont think I need to. I get the feeling NO ONE in that group ever dealt with a dead body.
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Defense against tyrrany
This is why all adult residents of the US need to be armed with full auto rifles at all times: so that police squad tyrrany like this can be mowed down with 1 full magazine from an m16 or ak47 wielded by 1 witness.
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You’re someone who wants to use these comments in a bid to get around Section 230 in a lawsuit against Techdirt, aren’t you?
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No. I want people to take the advice so we can start killing cops en masse
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Why, though?
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Common
I’ve heard that every living soul who decided it was smart in any way to resist arrest says the words over and over again “I can’t breathe”.
Every living soul. Who resists. Arrest.
So, if you truly can’t breathe? Stop resisting arrest. Take a breath break. Lie still. Instead say: “I can breathe, officer, because I stopped resisting arrest.”
Then take notes on the different outcomes. One is death and the other is life. Dead men can blame someone for their own actions, but they are still dead. Try staying alive. That would be my choice.
Don’t think being dead in order to make some point is the smartest or wisest thing one could do in life. You? Why do you run these incessant articles when it’s so easy to solve this problem. Have a class in the last 10 grades of school on NOT RESISTING ARREST. Make getting at least one passing grade in one of the 10-years worth of classes mandatory for graduation. Send all who refuse to pass to juvenile detention and tutor them 8 hour per day until they pass the class. Do not let them out on the street until they do. It’s for their own good, and of course the “community” vastly benefits from having one less lunatic screaming he can’t breathe.
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How’s those ivermectin doses coming along bro?
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Considering the drivel he’s posting it’s slowly making him even dumber.
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Are you being serious? Because that’s just some of the most batshit authoritarian garbage I’ve ever seen.
Ah yes, just choose life. Don’t dare allow your body to instinctually react by putting a hand out before being slammed on the ground, or attempt to move so that the lungs can pull in sufficient oxygen to live. Next time you go swimming with some friends and have someone hold you under water, and don’t let you up if you try to resist. You got to hold your breath, your with friends who will revive you if needed, but just see how well you can stop yourself from physically resisting in order to get air. After all, if you just relax…
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This!!!!
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Feel free to put ypur words into practice then.
Because odds are, you’re next.
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You don’t understand human physiology at all, do you? If you can’t breathe because you are being pushed face-down on the ground, just lying still does not help at all. Also, the guy in this case wasn’t resisting arrest, and if you can’t breathe, you can’t “take a breath break”.
Also, if you’ve ever seen any animal being suffocated (human or not), they will frequently flail or something purely by reflex or instinct. They are literally struggling to live.
Finally, you’re assuming that anyone who can’t breathe when in police custody cannot do so because they are resisting arrest, something which, as I already pointed out, isn’t even supported by your (false) assertion at the start, and certainly not by reality.
There is no difference in outcome, except that the person who lets people know they can’t breathe has a slightly better chance of others realizing that they can’t breathe and so try to help them to breathe.
Dead men can’t do anything, and you’re still victim-blaming here with zero factual basis for doing so.
Why the hell do you think they’re saying that they can’t breathe and struggling to keep breathing? That’s them trying to stay alive.
You seriously think they’re saying they can’t breathe just to make some sort of point? Jesus Christ! That’s not how it works at all.
Because the problem hasn’t been solved, and it needs to be. Obviously. Also, your proposal wouldn’t work.
What kind of totalitarian BS is this?
Does it? Really? I mean, I guess, but only if it’s because police aren’t making them unable to breathe, something that won’t happen if your “solution” was implemented.
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Bloody hell thanks for taking that bullet, even secondhand they sound like a real piece of authoritarian garbage and I commend you for the patience to wade through their victim blaming and ‘If you get a beating it’s your fault’ argumentation.
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The funny thing is that the footage I mentioned that disproves his assertion? They’re dash-cam videos of dumb criminals. As in I watched them because I wanted to laugh at the idiocy of actual criminals rather than to decry bad cops. Lots of people resisting arrest are shown in that footage of dumb criminals, and not a single one of them said they can’t breathe. I didn’t even need to do any new research!
Left it too long?
When I was in high school we had an ambulance driver come and give us info on CPR. Something he said stuck with me – if you are trying to resuscitate someone and it has been a few minutes with no pulse and they wet their pants, you can stop as you’ll never get them back.
Wait… how is this article dated March 24th when the incident supposedly happened on March 31st?!….
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Because March 31st happens every year.
If your crypto bot is as good as your spam bot, then this is obviously a ripoff.