Trump Announces His Own Social Network, 'Truth Social,' Which Says It Can Kick Off Users For Any Reason (And Already Is)

from the because-of-course dept

Last night, Donald Trump sent out a press release announcing (effectively) the launch of his new social network, “Truth Social.” The press release shows that it’s a bit more complicated than that. Trump is launching “Trump Media & Technology Group” which is entering into a reverse merger agreement to become listed as a public company in order to launch this new service. Apparently, Truth Social will let in “invited guests” next month, followed by a full launch in early 2022. The press release has the expected bombastically ridiculous quote from the former President.

“I created TRUTH Social and TMTG to stand up to the tyranny of Big Tech. We live in a world where the Taliban has a huge presence on Twitter, yet your favorite American President has been silenced. This is unacceptable. I am excited to send out my first TRUTH on TRUTH Social very soon. TMTG was founded with a mission to give a voice to all. I’m excited to soon beginning sharing my thoughts on TRUTH Social and to fight back against Big Tech. Everyone asks me why doesn’t someone stand up to Big Tech? Well, we will soon!”

I mean, first off, it’s an interesting world in which you can both claim to be silenced, but also (a) put out a press release read by millions and (b) launch your own damn social network. Doesn’t seem that “silent” to me, but what do I know?

Anyway, given that Trump claims that the mission here is “to give voice to all,” I was pretty interested in Truth Social’s terms of service which (unsurprisingly), make it clear they can kick you off for any reason they want at all. Specifically, it says:

We reserve the right, but not the obligation, to:

(1) monitor the Site for violations of these Terms of Service;

(2) take appropriate legal action against anyone who, in our sole discretion, violates the law or these Terms of Service, including without limitation, reporting such user to law enforcement authorities;

(3) in our sole discretion and without limitation, refuse, restrict access to, limit the availability of, or disable (to the extent technologically feasible) your access or any of your contributions or any portion thereof; or

(4) otherwise manage the Site in a manner designed to protect our rights and property and to facilitate the proper functioning of the Site.

In other words, like every other website out there, Truth Social will moderate content.

Also, there’s this:

If we terminate or suspend your account for any reason, you are prohibited from registering and creating a new account under your name, a fake or borrowed name, your email address or the name of any third party, even if you may be acting on behalf of the third party.

In addition to terminating or suspending your account, we reserve the right to take appropriate legal action, including without limitation pursuing civil, criminal, and injunctive redress.

So, it sure sounds like Truth Social, giving voice to all, is pretty damn sure it’s going to have to kick people off its site (and maybe even sue them!). And why might they kick you off? Well, there’s a very long list of “Prohibited Activities.” I’ll highlight some of them…

use the Site to advertise or offer to sell goods and services.

How much do you want to bet that Trump himself will violate this?

engage in unauthorized framing of or linking to the Site.

If you LINK TO THE SITE in an “unauthorized” way, they can remove your account.

trick, defraud, or mislead us and other users, especially in any attempt to learn sensitive account information such as user passwords;

MISLEADING OTHER USERS is grounds for having your account banished. So much freedom.

use any information obtained from the Site in order to harass, abuse, or harm another person.

This kind of thing is standard on all social media sites — but which is notable because it’s what many Trumpists get kicked off other platforms for. And yet, here it is.

use the Site as part of any effort to compete with us or otherwise use the Site and/or the Content for any revenue-generating endeavor or commercial enterprise.

Any effort to use the site to make money and they’ll shut you down. That’s… weird.

harass, annoy, intimidate, or threaten any of our employees or agents engaged in providing any portion of the Site to you.

If you annoy Trump or any of his employees, no more Truth for you!

upload or transmit (or attempt to upload or to transmit) viruses, Trojan horses, or other material, including excessive use of capital letters and spamming (continuous posting of repetitive text), that interferes with any party?s uninterrupted use and enjoyment of the Site or modifies, impairs, disrupts, alters, or interferes with the use, features, functions, operation, or maintenance of the Site.

One of those is not like the others. Excessive use of capital letters? I mean, that’s not banned on any other social media platform I know of. Seems a lot less “freedomy” than we were led to believe. Also… excessive use of capital letters? Can I think of a famous social media user who regularly made use of that… hmm… who could that be…?

Also, there’s an indemnity clause (a pretty broad one actually), so that if they get sued for something, you may be on the hook for the legal bills:

You agree to defend, indemnify, and hold us harmless, including our subsidiaries, affiliates, and all of our respective officers, agents, partners, and employees, from and against any loss, damage, liability, claim, or demand, including reasonable attorneys? fees and expenses, made by any third party due to or arising out of: (1) use of the Site; (2) breach of these Terms of Service; (3) any breach of your representations and warranties set forth in these Terms of Service; (4) your violation of the rights of a third party, including but not limited to intellectual property rights; or (5) any overt harmful act toward any other user of the Site with whom you connected via the Site.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, we reserve the right, at your expense, to assume the exclusive defense and control of any matter for which you are required to indemnify us, and you agree to cooperate, at your expense, with our defense of such claims. We will use reasonable efforts to notify you of any such claim, action, or proceeding which is subject to this indemnification upon becoming aware of it.

So, when I first wrote this article I had a paragraph noting that once it actually launched I expected that Truth Social would speedrun the content moderation learning curve just like every MAGA-wannabe social network before it. But… of course, it’s even faster than that. You see, despite saying it wasn’t open, a bunch of fairly enterprising people figured out how to access the site and sign up for accounts via an unadvertised link. So someone set up a Donald J. Trump account. And posted quite an image.

Someone else created their own Donald Trump account:

And a Mike Pence account:

And thus we learned that, indeed, the “freedom loving” Truth Social… is already banning accounts.

Freedom is so fleeting. I mean, it went away even faster than all those other Trumpist social media sites. Oh, and it seems notable that even pre-launch, Trump’s “freedom” loving social media site has text ready to go for suspended accounts:

You can no longer use your account, and your profile and other data are no longer accessible. You can still login to request a backup of your data until the data is fully removed, but we will retain some data to prevent you from evading the suspension.

So… it seems that Truth Social has “permanent suspensions” all ready to go. Just like every other social media website, of course. But, at least they don’t present themselves as the antithesis of those other social media sites while all doing the same thing.

Either way, this can’t be a good week for all those other super thirsty MAGA wannabe social networks. Gab is still out there pretending Trump is posting on its platform (they just repost every one of his press releases on his “verified” account and say they’ve “reserved” the account for him). Then, of course, there was Parler, who promised not to remove content, but whose former CEO gleefully told reporters that he was suspending “leftist trolls.” And, then, of course, there was Gettr, which was taken over and “launched” by former close Trump aide, Jason Miller, and which also speedran the content moderation learning curve. Miller was unable to get his recently former boss to get on his own platform, and now they’ll be competitors.

And, hey, competition is a good thing. Let a million social networks bloom. But don’t expect one that is actually “taking on Big Tech” or guaranteeing that everyone has a voice. Because that’s not Truth Social. It’s just more lies.

Oh, and there are even some people suggesting that Truth Social is merely a reskin of Mastodon, as it matches almost exactly. If that’s the case, then it’s almost certainly violating Mastodon’s AGPL license. And, considering that Truth Social’s terms of service say that it is forbidden for you to:

copy or adapt the Site?s software, including but not limited to Flash, PHP, HTML, JavaScript, or other code.

Then it seems that it certainly would violate such an open source license. And, I’m not even going to ask why they’re including “Flash” in that list other than to wonder where they copied this list from…

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'Truth'... as defined by the Dear Leader

Ah the irony of calling a platform run by a pathological liar ‘Truth’, it’s like calling a completely vegan restaurant ‘The Meat Locker’.

The trolls missed a golden opportunity, if they really wanted to mess with him they could have just started posting links to the many press releases about his lost lawsuits and how badly he lost the election, more than anything else I imagine ‘Hurting Trump’s fragile ego’ will get you thrown out of that cesspit so it’s not like there’s any need to create bogus accounts like they did.

As always with the ‘alternative’ social media platforms like this you just gotta love the glaring hypocrisy that is denigrating other social media networks for ‘censoring'(read: moderating) users while not only having a TOS that allows anyone to be booted for any reason but also puts the users on the hook for any lawsuits they site might face because of them. Funny how the ones crying ‘censorship!’ always seem to have no problems making use of that ‘tyranny’ when it comes to their own platforms and those they don’t like.

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David says:

Re: 'Truth'... as defined by the Dear Leader

Ah the irony of calling a platform run by a pathological liar ‘Truth’, it’s like calling a completely vegan restaurant ‘The Meat Locker’.

More like calling a steak&beef house "Just Vegan" because it has catsup. Truth is a thin line, the absence of any lie. There is nothing wrong with a restaurant called "The Meat Locker" offering catsup.

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Anonymous Coward says:

And, I’m not even going to ask why they’re including "Flash" in that list other than to wonder where they copied this list from…

It’s not just Flash.

upload or transmit (or attempt to upload or to transmit) any material that acts as a passive or active information collection or transmission mechanism, including without limitation, clear graphics interchange formats (“gifs”), 1×1 pixels, web bugs, cookies, or other similar devices (sometimes referred to as “spyware” or “passive collection mechanisms” or “pcms”).

  1. Clear GIFs (which is one specific format and not a generic term) and 1×1 pixels aren’t information collection mechanisms per se, servers that track requests to GIFs are. Are they allowing uploads hotlinked to arbitrary or almost arbitrary third-party sites?
    1.1. Also, any 1×1 image is by definition a pixel, no?
  2. What’s a "web bug"? More importantly, how does one "upload or transmit" one?
  3. Uploading cookies? Once again, I’m pretty sure that requires a third-party server that tracks visitors.
  4. These are all somehow "devices"?
  5. Honestly, I find the "sometimes referred to as" part only increasing the potential for confusion. I don’t think the attached terms make sense, especially not together. I don’t think any of these are actual "software" and therefore would qualify for "spyware".

except as may be the result of standard search engine or Internet browser usage, use, launch, develop, or distribute any automated system, including without limitation, any spider, robot, cheat utility, scraper, or offline reader that accesses the Site, or using or launching any unauthorized script or other software.

  1. Cheat utility??? How does that make any sense?
  2. Offline reader that accesses the site?

Even assuming there was an actual lawyer involved in writing that text, I doubt they consulted technical experts. Though I guess that’s kind of to be expected.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re:

"What’s a "web bug"? More importantly, how does one "upload or transmit" one?"

They usually take the form of a single pixel that’s loaded without the end user noticing, often used to confirm (for example) that someone’s read a spam message or visited a particular web page without the user noticing or having to take any explicit action, even if you have things like JS and cookies blocked. This is why when you go to your spam folder, they usually disable all images by default.

This is also why the things in point #1 are mentioned, since that’s how they usually manifest.

"Cheat utility??? How does that make any sense?"

I’d imagine that including everything you can think of, even if it’s not directly relevant, is an ass covering move in case, say, someone modified a cheat program to do whatever they’re afraid of then uses the fact that it’s not explicitly including in the list of outlawed programs to wriggle out of consequences.

"Offline reader that accesses the site?"

Well, in order to see something offline, the program will usually have to access the site and retrieve whatever version of the page you’ll see in offline mode first.

Everything else does support the idea that they copied from another source, most likely an outdated one.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Oh, so a "web bug" is basically the same as the "1×1 pixel" thing? That’s good to know, thank you for the information.

Cheat utility is something I found strange because I have yet to see that in any Terms of Use clause prohibiting unauthorized scraping or automated access.

The offline reader bit makes sense, given your comment, though I guess it’s also kind of strange because why would they want users to refrain from offline reader use so specifically?

All of this terminological weirdness ("clear graphics interchange formats", etc.) actually made me think the terms aren’t just copied from elsewhere verbatim (probably their baseline version was copied from elsewhere), but that the copied terms were later modified by a non-technical person who thought they know a lot more about technology than they actually do… while their actual tech knowledge was closer to cliches than reality.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Yeah, I’m just familiar with the web bug thing years ago because when I had to work user support in a former life I got a lot of whining about not being able to see images in messages that hadn’t been whitelisted. The basic point is that by virtue of being a simple image request from a URL without scripting being involved, a bad actor can gather a lot of info even if you’re relatively locked down and use common sense about security and not clicking on suspicious messages – by the time you load them with images included the damage is done, even if your immediate response is to press delete.

"The offline reader bit makes sense, given your comment, though I guess it’s also kind of strange because why would they want users to refrain from offline reader use so specifically?"

Could be anything, I’d guess they just wanted to make sure there was an explicit ban on anything capable of running scripts, and anything that’s able to access a site would implicitly be capable of attempting an injection or other attack, even if that’s not its intended purpose.

Everything else is either covering their asses or copied from elsewhere, or maybe both. EULAs are rarely tested in court, but I imagine that this site has an implicit "please legally attack me" target posted for all political sites to see – and that they’re not necessarily getting the cream of the crop in terms of real life knowledge building it, so anything’s possible.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I’d imagine that including everything you can think of, even if it’s not directly relevant, is an ass covering move in case, say, someone modified a cheat program to do whatever they’re afraid of then uses the fact that it’s not explicitly including in the list of outlawed programs to wriggle out of consequences.

Not exactly a plausible fear given that they already reserved the right to ban people for any or no reaeon…like all sites do.

But I’m sure some lawyer was happy to bill them for many hours of researching (googling) and writing (copypasting) a giant list of redundant jargon anyway.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

It’s kind of my point I suspect the "lawyer" bit isn’t even true. I’m not sure if my expectations are excessive, but I would expect a competent lawyer to recognize the need for a technical expert when writing legal documents that touch technical subjects. Otherwise there’s a lot of risk of ending up with laughable nonsense or serious loopholes.

I wouldn’t say "cheat utilities", modified or not, is what a reasonably proficient technical person expects to be used for scraping websites. What if someone modified a Bitcoin miner to scrape a website? Why aren’t Bitcoin miners listed there?

I may not have any formal certifications here, but as a rather technical person the terminology used just screams "written by a non-technical person" to me. Which, given the above, leads me to think that either: 1) the lawyer involved wasn’t really a good one; 2) the lawyer involved was heavily influenced by the client; 3) there wasn’t a lawyer involved.

Given the AGPL issue described in other comments, I’m leaning towards the third option.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Re:

Cheat utility (also, offline page caching): This is a step up from the recent, It is the illegal hax to look at html source! Some clowns are just broadening it to offline reading (doesn’t MS still have a system folder for that in Windows?), saving a page (lolwut?), or apparently… looking at the data from the page in RAM?

sumgai (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Technically, a pixel is a segment of your monitor/screen/display that can be turned on or off (lit or unlit), not something that is transmitted over the network. What is transmitted is an instruction to light up that one pixel. But, and here’s the definition of "clear", if the transmitted image tells the pixel to assume the same color as the pixel would otherwise display, then it is transparent, or "clear". IOW, if the pixel is supposed to be red, then it will transparently display red, but the instruction, having loaded and told the pixel what to do, will go on to report back to the server both that it was loaded, and other privacy-invading data.

That transparency format, and the 1×1 size, is how ad blockers find and eliminate these things.

BTW, a device need not be hardware. Remember your school English teacher telling you that "this author used a plot device…", and you can see that it merely means "a way to get a desired result".

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sumgai (profile) says:

Re: Re: Screen readers for the blind?

If so, that’s a clear ADA violation.

Actually, the law is not yet set in stone on that one. Several organizations have lobbied Congress over the years to enlarge the ADA to include the internet, and thereby any and all websites found on therein, but to date, Congress has failed to actually do so.

There have been numerous private law suits, some of them successful, but those are essentially civil – a non-government party sues a website claiming an unlawful violation of the ADA – but they are usually accompanied by other claims as well.

Some states, California in particular, have stricter laws on this topic, and where nexus can be proven, suits of this nature are more often successful.

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David says:

Re: Re:

"favorite American President" implies acting as well as former presidents as the base set because you don’t get to have more than one acting at a time except in case of sedition or an actual controversy.

And if that were intended, you’d rather see "legitimate American President" or something like that bandied about.

I rather think that "favorite American President" is more in the line of "largest inauguration crowd in history". Different kind of delusion than what you imply.

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Ian W (profile) says:

ToS Grifter typo

There’s a typo in the Terms of Service ..

(4) otherwise manage the Site in a manner designed to protect our rights and property and to facilitate the proper functioning of the Site.

That should read, "… to facilitate the proper funding of the Site"

You know the Grifter-in-Chief is just running this as another scam to part fans from their money.

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: ToS Grifter typo

"You know the Grifter-in-Chief is just running this as another scam to part fans from their money."

Of course he is. And even if he put that dead center in large letters on his website the loyal adherents of Dear Leader would just laugh that off with Donald Being Donald and send him more money.

You seriously can’t help some people. Especially if the only reason they’re following him in the first place is because he promises to make the "damn liberals" even more miserable than they are, and implies he’ll guarantee a safe space for all the bigots and racists who feel butthurt because their "conservative values" aren’t popular any longer…

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Time for The Lincoln Project to start up Consequences Social.

Fuck the Lincoln Project, nothing but a bunch of grifters!!!

They play the same game as Trump, constantly begging for donations, but from the anti-Trumps. And most of the money goes to the handful of guys running it as "administrative costs" and very little of their money goes to do anything other than make digital ad spots of marginal production value.

Their organization sounds like they do good, but in the end, it’s just another con job by right wingers, as that is all they know how to do.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Absent any proof of those assertions

How about his from The New York Times:

The behind-the-scenes moves by the four original founders showed that whatever their political goals, they were also privately taking steps to make money from the earliest stages, and wanted to limit the number of people who would share in the spoils. Over time, the Lincoln Project directed about $27 million — nearly a third of its total fund-raising — to Mr. Galen’s consulting firm, from which the four men were paid, according to people familiar with the arrangement.

Yes, they have done a measurable amount of good against Trump and his sycophants, but at it’s core, it’s just a right wing grifting machine as that is typical for any right wing organization that is political in nature and survives on donations. The founders / organizers take huge amounts of money for their administrative costs and salaries.

The only difference between them and Bannon’s "Build the Wall" is that they actually do spend a small amount of money for its intended purpose, but they both are using their organizations as a means to line their own pockets.

we’ll just go ahead and assume that you a lie like a Trump.

Maybe you should speak for yourself and not assume that everybody has the same view as you do?

And do you still think I am lying?

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

I hate to say it but there’s hardly absence of proof here. There may be a few Lincoln Project members who are in it for the ideology…but most of those have long since gone independent or joined the right-wing democrats.

Politics is much like cooking with a hundred chefs. Most participants in a saner and more healthy body politic will try to cook up a dish of whatever will fit the taste of the majority to whom it will be served, or cater obsequiously to anyone buying the ingredients. There will always be a few trying to sneak in a few dollops of theoretically edible yet odd ingredients; a dab of licorice, papayas or wasabi into a pot roast, for instance.
There’s always going to be a few laughably inept people trying to add inedible or hazardous ingredients, like bleach or gasoline.

And there’s always that one guy who’ll try to shit in the pot and trust heavy use of salt and pepper will mask that.

That’s how the democrats cook up their politics.

Mainstream republicans have, for the last decades, just shat in the pot, held it up to their base, and blamed the democrats.

The Lincoln project in this metaphor are the ones trying to sell their base the dish which was cooked 50 years ago when republicans still had policy. Only issue with that is, none of them are chefs, none of them are in the kitchen, and none of them have the recipe or ingredients to deliver that dish. All they’ve got is a bunch of full-color posters of what that dish is supposed to look like.

The Lincoln project is as bereft of actual policy as the mainstream GOP. They still do 100% negative partisanship, just aimed at their own old party.

I could be wrong. Aside from the guys caught in recent scandals it may very well be the Lincoln Project was primarily staffed by idealists. Doesn’t change the fact that all they stock is the same type of overblown bullshit and hype the GOP does; they have no plans. No roadmap. Just a few high-flying slogans about how it would be good to move back to good old principles.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

there are even some people suggesting that Truth Social is merely a reskin of Mastodon

No suggesting about it⁠—it is a Mastodon reskin. The timeline and settings screenshots in those tweets are of a Mastodon instance as seen through the end user’s side of things. All Truth Social did was recolor stuff so it would resemble Twitter, because Trump is that obsessed with “owning” Twitter or whatever.

On the bright side, the “Fediblock” movement already put out a notice about Truth Social. They want to make sure as few instances as possible can be tainted by Trump’s instance via federation. Can’t say I blame ’em.

Also: Any bets on how long this Trumpian business venture will last? I’m guessing that this thing doesn’t make it to 2023.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Translation

The problem is that a significant amount of his dumbass followers still think he is part of the government and will be there any day now to secretly take back control. Whether the actual propaganda is coming from the same source as Pravda or somewhere else is the least of the problems here, especially given that he’s trained the cult to believe that any facts coming from elsewhere is "fake news"…

nasch (profile) says:

Re: Re:

What he says is predictable.

I disagree; I could not have predicted much of the rambling word salad that escapes his mouth. For example:

You know, New York was very nice to you people last night, you know that, right? Did they hand you that game? They handed it! I said, I am going to have the friendliest audience — sit down — I am going to have the friendliest audience. So I wasn’t sure, was I happy or was I sad? But Jerry Jones is a great guy, and he deserves everything he gets, frankly. And you know, another great guy is Mark Cuban. And I think, you know, he’s been talking about maybe doing this himself. And I think he’d do a great job. We don’t have the exact same feelings about where we’re going, but that’s okay. But Mark was great. You know, he called me, like, literally a few days ago, and he said, "You know, if you want to use the arena" — which by the way is a beautiful arena, this a great arena — and Dirk is a fantastic player, he’s just a wonderful player — and the Mavericks have been fantastic and it’s just a great team — but he said, "You know, if you want to use the arena." And I said, "Mark, when?" He said "How ’bout Monday night?" It’s like, that was like in four days. And you had a big holiday in between. And he said, "They really like you in Dallas, they really like you in Texas, maybe you can get a lot of people." Because we were coming here, and we thought maybe we’d get a thousand people, but we never get a thousand anymore, it’s always, like, the same thing. You know, we went to Alabama. We started off with a 500-person ballroom. And after about two minutes — look at all these guys — paparazzi, look at this we’ve got everybody here. We started off, by the way, with a 500-person ballroom, and after about two minutes the hotel called up begging for mercy. "We can’t do it!" They were inundated, so we went to the convention center, and that was 10,000 and that was wiped out in about an hour. So we went to a stadium, we had 31,000 people, which is by far the largest, they say, like, ever, for an early primary, and that’s probably true.

Even he could not have predicted he was going to say that.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

It was predictable that whatever he said was word salad 😉

Anyway, reading that – telling the marks of his con that they were the most important people in the world, general whining about how his ego was bruised, name dropping that nobody else would really care about, anecdotes about people telling him he was important that can’t be verified, obsession over ratings and not ideas or actionable policy..?

Seems predictable to me.

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Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

Re: Re:

I don’t take sucker bets like that.

Of course Dear Leader and his loyal cadre of facehuggers will try to shove unpalatable and erroneous bullshit down everyone’s throat.

And of course any attempt at fact-checking will be met with strident complaints about "Muh Freedum! Ahm bein’ Silenced!".

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David says:

Not going to last.

I mean, take a look at the comment section(s) of OAN. It’s such a tiny echo chamber that you get claustrophobia. And there really are no libs to troll.

And that doesn’t even require you to get warm with some newfangled social networking paradigms.

Well, since they apparently chose the AGPLed Mastodon as their software base, at least they are going to contribute lots of accessibility improvements facilitating non-technical users back to the developer community.

Or maybe they hope to be sued for compliance in order to have a dramatic excuse for shuttering their doomed performance piece with a florish, pocketing all their accrued funding.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Not going to last.

"And there really are no libs to troll."

Because all of those right-wing bastions of "free speech" will permaban you in a. heartbeat if you inject anything related to reality into a conversation, let alone actual "liberal" speech.

This is why those people are always so angry and confused about the type of speech they get on mainstream platforms. They literally don’t get exposed to someone not already in the cult unless they venture elsewhere.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Trump canceled by TRUTH.....

I’d imagine the mascot of this site is Lionel Hutz, and any Simpsons fan knows his opinion on "the truth".

Sadly, Lionel Hutz and Dr. Nick Riviera seem to be that standard of staffers that Trump surrounds himself with. They were meant to be ridiculous satirical characters, damn it!

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Blake C. Stacey (profile) says:

Talking Points Memo has a story on it this morning:

“I do intend to seek legal counsel on the situation though,” Rochko told TPM, while declining to discuss any specific legal action he may be contemplating. “Compliance with our AGPLv3 license is very important to me as that is the sole basis upon which I and other developers are willing to give away years of work for free,” Rochko added.

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Federico (profile) says:

Only needs to last until the merger

Gab has been running two years on Mastodon, despite multiple… issues. This may end up being similar.

As Matt Levine wrote (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-10-21/matt-levine-s-money-stuff-donald-trump-does-a-spac ), the sole purpose of the website is to serve as an excuse to sell stock to gullible followers:

Yesterday, before this announcement, DWAC’s stock closed at $9.96, a bit below the approximately $10.20 per share that it has in its trust, sort of a standard price for a SPAC with no deal yet. At 11 a.m. today it was trading at about $19.38, implying a valuation for Trump Thing of something like $1.7 billion. If you think Trump Thing is worth $19.38 per share, you are not going to take your $10 back; you’re going to keep the stock and let Trump have your $10. He will definitely get all $293 million.

The website only needs to last until the cash goes into Trump’s bank account, then it can vanish. Maybe it doesn’t even need to last that long; a mere promise to put it up later might be enough for people to hold the stock.

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Anonymous Coward says:

MISLEADING OTHER USERS is grounds for having your account banished. So much freedom.

Uhhh. I detect a possible sitewide and maybe even corporate conflict here.

a reverse merger agreement

Just when i thought i’d heard all the top nonsense of shit allowed in the business world…

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jimb (profile) says:

What does Trump know about 'truth' in the first place...?

So on TRUTH Social you can –

Post outright lies – no problem.
Post racist diatribes – no problem.
Post bigoted rants – no problem.
Post criticism of Trump — oops, bye-bye.

Strangely, to me that sure sounds like ‘cancel culture’ made real. Another Trumpian hypocrisy, in it’s full glory.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Leave it to Mike Masnick to make the comment: they can kick you off for any reason they want at all.

Did he seriously say that? It’s what twitter, Facebook and Google/YOUTUBE have been doing all along to conservatives. They have been kicking everyone off their platforms with no evidence, and relying on heresay, innuendo and accusations instead of actual proof.

About time we got a social media platform that gives fanatical liberals a taste of their own medicine.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

“The libs” won’t join Truth Social for any reason other than trolling, much as they did with Parler. They already have Twitter; why would they ever seriously sign up for a service full of nothing but the kind of people they’re actively trying to avoid on Twitter?

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

"“The libs” won’t join Truth Social"

Of course we won’t. We’ve been asking not to have to deal with these people, and now that they’re finally getting off their arses and doing something instead of whining that they can’t force the rest of us to host them, if they succeed then the rest of us will continue to stay far away. The track record isn’t great, since not even people like them want to spend too much time hanging around with people like them, but here’s hoping they eventually get it done.

That’s right – I’m actually sick enough of these people that I’m hoping a Donald Trump venture actually works, though history says that it will be as miserable a failure as everything else he puts his name and "business acumen" to.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Re:

"Did he seriously say that?"

Yes, because it’s funny to see you hypocritical pricks doing exactly the same thing you whine about happening to you.

"They have been kicking everyone off their platforms with no evidence, and relying on heresay, innuendo and accusations instead of actual proof."

This is where I ask you to provide evidence that this has happened, since every time one of you bozos is pushed enough to actually provide an example, it’s always nothing like what you claim. Do you have any real examples? Or, are you following the usual trend of parroting whatever the right.wing echo chamber tells you to think without evidence?

"About time we got a social media platform that gives fanatical liberals a taste of their own medicine."

A community infested with morons so they can stay over there and the rest of us can avoid you like the plague you are? We’ve been asking you to do that for years instead of demanding you get forced into the places we’ve told you that you’re not welcome, but all you’ve shown so far is laughable incompetence. After many failures, hopefully this is the one that gets you idiots away from the adults.

I’m not going to get a "taste of my own medicine" when you accidentally do something effective. I’m going to stay far away from you and not have to deal with your bullshit every day, as I’ve been asking you to do for me for many years… and good riddance if you don’t fuck it up this time.

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sumgai (profile) says:

Re: Re:

You know, AChole, the reason you think conservatives are being kicked off of mainstream platforms is that these poster-boys-for-better-child-rearing-requirements are not getting kicked off for their partisanship, they’re being shown the door for a myriad of reasons. The fact that they happen to be Republican is actually sad, because it denigrates a once useful party that helped prevent government waste of taxpayer dollars. Now, the only way they they can accomplish anything in the way of policy is to commit acts of social terrorism, and then complain to the high skies that they’ve been somehow wronged.

But the final straw, when you get down to it, is that they are constantly pounding the drum about the Constitution and 1A, but they willfully refuse to read all of that particular Amendment. If you can’t figure out what I mean by that, then you’re part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Skylos (profile) says:

Interesting history of FLASH, PHP phrase

I did a little googling with date ranges. this is a very common clause in modern TOS! … Though I couldn’t find anything from the 90s, I found this from september 2000

https://www.echo-social-services.com/terms

Which says at the top:

Last updated September 01, 2000

Have I found a root document of TOS prohibited activities clauses?

Anybody spot an EARLIER occurrence of this phraseology?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

These terms also have the exact same "cheat utility" and "clear graphics interchange formats" issues.

But there’s this notice on the bottom:

These terms of use were created using Termly’s Terms and Conditions Generator.

I looked at that generator, and the preview generated with the default settings has all of these issues as well. This does explain things.

Also, I kind of doubt 2000 is the actual update date, though I have no evidence.

Lord Lidl of Cheem (profile) says:

The Apple App Store Page has this beauty on it...

Age Rating
12+
Infrequent/Mild Mature/Suggestive Themes
Infrequent/Mild Contests
Infrequent/Mild Cartoon or Fantasy Violence
Infrequent/Mild Alcohol, Tobacco, or Drug Use or References
Infrequent/Mild Simulated Gambling
Infrequent/Mild Medical/Treatment Information
Infrequent/Mild Profanity or Crude Humor
Infrequent/Mild Horror/Fear Themes

Yeah right…

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: 'Yes the app somehow violates more rules than we have but...'

Setting aside his begging for money which I agree is likely to pop up really quickly because if a con-man has an audience of idiots he’d be a fool not to exploit that/them my first thought was that it would take even less time for the scum that follow him to start posting ‘let’s see how many Apple TOS’ rules we can violate’ content, leaving Apple to either give him the boot and draw the ire and attention of his cultists or cover for him/the app and seriously screw over their image in the process.

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