Utah Senator Wants To Revive The State's 'Porn Czar' Office To Combat The Threat Of Women's Magazines

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Todd Weiler, a state Senator in Utah, has appeared on our pages before. When last we checked in with the good senator, he was quite oddly attempting to purge his notoriously prudish state from the dire threat of pornography. His plan was more than a bit heavy-handed in that it centered on mandating porn-filtering software on all smartphones under his stated theory that “A cell phone is basically a vending machine for pornography.” This tragic misunderstanding by a sitting state senator of what a phone is and exactly what its primary functions are aside, government mandates that infringe on free and legal expression are kind of a no-no in these here secular United States. Even setting constitutional questions aside, attempts like these are immediately confronted by the obstreperous demands from the public for a definition of exactly what constitutes “pornography.”

Well, for Senator Weiler, it appears we may have something of an answer. See, Weiler has more recently decided to try to revive Utah’s long-defunct Obscenity and Pornography Complaints Ombudsman position, or “porn czar”, that Utah once filled but has left vacant for the better part of two decades.

For the past 14 years, Utah has made do without a “porn czar.” The position—officially known as the “Obscenity and Pornography Complaints Ombudsman”—has been vacant since 2003, though it was never officially eliminated. Now state Sen. Todd Weiler (R–Woods Cross) may revive it, even as the Utah attorney general suggests legislators strike it from the books. Weiler suggests that an obscenity ombudsman could focus on things like providing guidance to retailers. But the position also has the power to monitor and punish business owners for daring to display magazines that mention sex.

If all of that seems so broad a mandate that non-pornographic magazines might accidentally be caught up in the fray, you’re wrong. Those innocent magazines aren’t collateral damage at all, in fact, but rather the primary targets apparently of Weiler’s ire.

Weiler’s definition of porn is apparently broad enough to encompass mainstream women’s magazines. Weiler “says he became convinced that the obscenity and pornography complaints office may be needed because of an ad campaign attacking Cosmopolitan magazine as illegal porn,” The Salt Lake Tribune reports.

“I’ve received some complaints…that stores are selling Cosmo at eye level to a child,” he told the Tribune. “There’s no blinder rack on it, even though we have some blinder rack language in the state code.”

Cosmo is and has been the butt of many a joke, but pornography it most certainly is not. And, jokes aside, the magazine is a source and platform for women to discuss and learn about both women’s general and sexual health. Painting a porn target on a magazine such as that says everything about why these sorts of efforts must be defeated. No matter how uncomfortable it might make a Utah state senator for women to be real live human beings with body functions about which they need to learn, and no matter how distasteful that senator might find women discussing their health and sex lives in print, it should be plainly obvious that Cosmo is not remotely pornographic by any traditional understanding.

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David says:

Re: Re:

Well, if you are devout, this is basically an allegory for the longing of the pious for the embrace of the church. Something like that: I forgot the details.

Because Jesus stated that he hasn’t come to dissolve the laws and the prophets but to render them complete.

And if St Jerome saw fit to translate this into Latin, it must have been in concord with what Catholics preach.

So no, it cannot be smut. Even if it quacks like it and waddles like it.

Cdaragorn (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Actually, that one is taken care of by many of those who would be in favor of this kind of law. It’s not recognized as revealed scripture by the LDS faith.
Which kind of makes sense, considering the Bible was put together by a bunch of self appointed leaders of Christianity long after the last trace of any Apostle had been killed off. They were bound to get some things wrong.

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

Ahh to live in Utah where the biggest problem is a child might see a Cosmo cover that says ‘100 Ways to Drive him wild!’.

Perhaps its time to stop pretending no one in Utah looks are porn…. here are the numbers from when the Gov. declared it to be a public health crisis.

https://www.pornhub.com/insights/utahs-porn-viewers

Yeah tell your boss you went for the articles.

They like porn, but are unwilling to be judged by their neighbors… ignoring their neighbors are looking for Mormon Yoga porn to watch.

Its a pity that the pious holier than thou mask so many people wear is fake, but they lack the moral character to admit they enjoy porn & Cosmo for the sex tips that can land you in the ER if you try them.

Porn exists.
Forbidding to look at it, makes them seek it out faster.

While your wasting money on a pointless porn battle, have they solved the problem of all of them young men forced out of those polygamist compounds by the older men who just want 25 young wives?

If they need things to look at…
How about a law to protect nurses from cops arresting them for getting in the way of them trying to blame the victim of their actions.

How about making sure the home of vulnerable children isn’t still a hunting ground for pervs?
https://www.propublica.org/article/yet-another-scandal-rocks-utah-home-for-vulnerable-children

Maybe get someone into Congress who isn’t about using his position to take out rivals and settle scores?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/jason-chaffetz-oversight-chairman-retiring-congress-trump/

Maybe find an AG who isn’t on the take?
http://www.wpxi.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/key-figure-in-utah-political-scandal-appeals-conviction/616028684

But porn… porn is bad…

JEDIDIAH says:

Re: The big blind spot.

You want to laugh but some of those Cosmo covers are more interesting then some of what’s inside of actual porn mags. Publications like that have always gotten a free pass for objectifying women and encouraging the notion that a woman should be judged by her looks.

They are arguably more harmful as they pass themselves off as feminist magazines pretending to be something friendly and harmless.

At least everyone knows to be wary of and distrust the more blatant stuff.

An “objective standard” is really something nobody wants to acknowledge.

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

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I was out running an errand and I saw a magazine display… it was low to the ground where children could see it!!!!!!!!!

Would you just look at the November cover of the Food Network Magazine!!!! BREASTS!!! Uncovered and on full display!

http://www.foodnetwork.com/magazine

(yes you know its gonna be turkey breasts)

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

Re: American dream

You don’t even need to goto Utah Capt.
You could replace that SEC worker had where he had browsed porn for and thought the porn filter was just a challenge.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140810/09552328168/more-federal-employees-caught-using-work-computers-to-access-porn-claim-boredom-made-them-do-it.shtml

John85851 (profile) says:

When is censorship due to religion good?

Are they trying to block adult sites and magazines because of Sharia law? This is the United States! How dare they try to force their religion on us! The nerve of these people! It’s called “separation of church and state”! I’m going to protest and maybe get violent!

Oh, wait, it’s Mormon law that’s being forced on everyone? Never mind. There’s nothing to see here since this is a “good” religion.

Cdaragorn (profile) says:

Traditional understanding is actually part of the problem

Cosmo is not remotely pornographic by any traditional understanding.

Actually, traditional understanding of pornography put men or women walking around in long sleeved "underwear" as pornography. So Cosmo absolutely does qualify under some traditional definitions of it.

This of course only serves to expose the problem with trying to legislate it. Whose definition do you accept? I personally feel that complete nudity should not be on public display, but then there are many that would argue against me on that.

Anonymous Coward says:

So another IDIOT trying to ban something that’s protected by the constitution. So it gets passed, and then thrown out by the supreme court!! Wasting time and taxpayers money like always.

Is PORN on phones even a thing? I don’t recall ever having any type of porn on my phone To small of a screen. Besides I want to relax in my own place in front of a big screen. A smart phone just seems silly. Maybe VR Porn. I assume there’s even less of that. Do people want to be VR porn outside the home? Clearly no one can glance over and see that.

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

Re: Re:

(with no apologies)

There was a time when models were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting

There was a time when they told me self-love would make me blind
And the world was a song
And the song was exciting
There was a time

Then it all went wrong

I dreamed a dream in times gone by
When porn was hidden and procreation not mentioned
I dreamed, that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving

Then I was young and unafraid
And porn was made and used and wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No lube unsqueezed, no handgrip untested

But the Mormons come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your porn apart
As they turn your fetish to shame

Victoria Secrets catalog slept a summer by my side
and filled my nights with endless wanking
Nat Geo took my childhood in his stride
But the czar outlawed it when autumn came

And still I dream PornHub will come to me
That we will live the years together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are moral panics we cannot weather

I had a dream my life would be
So different from this hell I’m living
So different now from what it seemed
Now the Czar has killed the dream
I dreamed

Lawrence D’Oliveiro says:

Where Do You Think Girls And Women Get Poor Body Image From?

Where do you think there are all these pictures of the infamous “Size Zero” models that make girls and women feel inadequate? They are in the women’s magazines.

If you want to complain about male-oriented internet porn, first note that it comes in every conceivable variety. Basically, whatever shape a woman is, some group of men will find her attractive.

Atkray (profile) says:

Well that explains it

In the Salt Lake Valley one of the major outdoor advertisers will periodically post billboards with random trivia facts along with phone numbers and or website url’s.

They do this so they can show prospective clients how effective their advertising is.

On a recent trip into the city I saw a billboard that said Cosmo is porn! with a phone number.

Silly me. I thought it was one of the signs from the advertising company.

It never entered my thought process that it might be a legit attempt to convince people to support Todd Weiler.

Anonymous Coward says:

My kids went to school in a primarily rural Mormon area. No sex-ed and in its place people would come tell the high schoolers that porn will make them addicts and murderers.

This full well knowing that 90%+ of kids have already seen porn images by the time they are in high school. So they are basically telling them they are all guilty and will become mass murderers like Ted Bundy.

But they are good people right? I mean only some of their kids kill themsevles when they can’t take it anymore and their women are all only cowtowed and act like abused animals.

Good people stuck in a bad religion is the best and the worst is rampant molestation, spousal abuse, and rape covered up to keep them looking pure and ready for the temple.

MyNameHere says:

The porn czar is the leftovers of the concept of the “community standards” way of judging if something is obscene. Essentially, what was acceptable in, say, San Francisco, may not be acceptable in Salt Lake City.

That. of course, came pre-internet. It came when communities were defined by physical location, and not by how people group together. So that standard has pretty much evaporated. No sane prosecutor would be willing to work on the basis of community standards.

But hey, SLC and Utah are special, in that short bus kind of a way. They are sort of like the Amish, stuck in another century.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: [prosecuting porn judged by community standards]

No sane prosecutor would be willing to work on the basis of community standards.

Of course he will, that is the only basis on which he can bring a case. In some areas, he will bring it, because a large portion of the population there are blue-noses. Sure, that can turn out to be a mis-calculation; does anyone remember [Fla. 7th Cir. SA] John Tanner?

And an enthusiastic state’s atty can get convictions, too. Remember that the jury pool is drawn from the same crop of blue-noses that elected him.

GEMont (profile) says:

Public Engineering: the Morality Con

The downfall of all human civilizations:

Religiously indoctrinated Morality;

How I think You should act-
How I think You should dress-
How I think You should speak-
How I think You should think-

-Made law.

We never learn from our mistakes.

In ancient times, when shit went south – famine, drought, plague, pestilence – the leaders ALWAYS claimed ‘the Gods were angry because the public was acting, speaking, dressing, thinking immorally’.

A large portion of the public has always willingly fallen for this line of BS, because it lets them blame all the bad shit on those who dress, speak, or behave in ways they consider improper, as taught by their religion.

The Authorities love this BS line, because it places the full responsibility for whatever fiasco happens to be affecting the society at the time, squarely on the shoulders of the public. And once the public is pushed by its “morally responsible members” into a regimen of legislated “See and Tell” to root out the immoral evil doers, authority gets to become more ruthless and intrusive (and profitable), “as demanded by the public.”

Authority knows from experience that the regimen of anti-immorality legislation never actually lessens the problems faced by the society, but this is good for business-as-usual because the authorities now have a publicly acceptable “rationale” for all their oppressive tactics, going forward.

Time has had zero effect on this con and today its being used for everything from vaccines to terrorists.

Stoopid Hoomuns.

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