Roca Labs Threatens To Sue All Three Former Customers Who Provided Evidence Against Roca In PissedConsumer Case
from the the-ultimate-in-sleazy dept
The Roca Labs story keeps getting more and more ridiculous. Each time you think the company couldn’t act in a way that seems even more sleazy and questionable, it raises the bar. If you don’t recall, Roca Labs sells a “dietary supplement” (they describe it as a “food additive” or a “nutraceutical”) that, according to one doctor, “consists primarily of industrial food thickening agents” which the company claims is an “alternative” to gastric bypass surgery. More importantly, the company has some crazy terms of service that say if you buy the product the company will offer a “discount” in exchange for agreeing to never say anything negative about the product ever in any form (and requiring you to allow the company to showcase any positive results). One of our readers went through the ordering process and claims that the “discount” is a mirage — as there appeared to be no way to order without the “discount” (i.e., without agreeing to the gag clause). Despite all this, there are numerous complaints about Roca Labs and its product both with the Better Business Bureau (which gives the company an F grade) and with PissedConsumer, where people have complained about both the company and the product.
In response, Roca Labs used some unique legal theories to sue PissedConsumer’s parent company, Consumer Opinion Corp., claiming that it’s “tortious interference” to solicit consumer reviews, given the company’s gag order. PissedConsumer fought back, arguing that the gag clause was clearly unenforceable, questioning the quality of Roca’s products, and highlighting the company’s history of threatening lawsuits when people complained to the Better Business Bureau. On top of all that, we noted that Roca Labs decided, in the midst of all this, to sue a former customer for complaining to the Better Business Bureau. This lawsuit was filed the day after PissedConsumer responded to Roca’s lawsuit, the timing of which will become more interesting as you read a little further.
If you’re keeping score at home, among the questionable actions by Roca Labs (leaving aside any questions about the efficacy and safety of the product), we’ve got (1) a gag order that both demands silence if you’re unhappy and compels endorsement if you are happy, (2) a questionable legal threat against a website that collects consumer reviews, and (3) legal threats and lawsuits against unhappy customers for merely complaining to the BBB about Roca Labs.
And now the company has taken it up to another level. As we noted, when PissedConsumer fought back, it included declarations from three former customers, all of whom had complained to the BBB. It had been a while since any of those former customers had heard from Roca Labs, but four days after PissedConsumer’s response, all three of those customers received new letters from Roca Labs, threatening legal action for “breach of contract.”
Marc Randazza, the lawyer for PissedConsumer, has now filed for a temporary restraining order against Roca Labs, claiming that the company is engaged in witness intimidation.
Via the attachments in the filing, you can see that Randazza had a ridiculous email conversation with Roca Labs’ lawyer, Paul Berger, in which Randazza bent over backwards offering to allow the company to file such lawsuits if needed to avoid a statute of limitations, but otherwise asked the company to defer any such threats or legal action until after the court expresses an opinion on the legitimacy of Roca’s gag order (which is expected next week). Berger appears unwilling to respond directly to what Randazza is clearly offering, and also makes some bizarre claims about not being able to respond as the legal representative of Roca Labs, despite his own email signature noting that he’s the “independent general counsel” for the company and the fact that all the threat letters came directly from him (his reason: not being admitted to the bar in that part of Florida — a meaningless excuse for the purpose of communications between lawyers, since that only concerns his ability to appear in court).
In the threat letters to the three customers sent on Monday morning, September 22nd, Berger directly references that one lawsuit he filed the previous Friday, September 19th, as evidence of the “seriousness” with which Roca takes these issues. So, the timeline: on Thursday, September 18th, PissedConsumer responds to Roca’s lawsuit, including declarations from three former customers who complained to the Better Business Bureau, only to receive initial threats from Roca soon after, though no actual lawsuit (two of these happened in 2011, one earlier in 2014). On Friday, Roca sues a different former customer who complained to the Better Business Bureau. Then, early Monday morning, Roca sends letters to the three former customers whose declarations were part of the Thursday filing, pointing to the Friday lawsuit as evidence of how the company will sue customers who complain to the BBB. You can see all three threats embedded below.
As Randazza notes in his own filing, this appears to be a fairly clear attempt to “intimidate and harass defense witnesses.” From the filing:
So far, three of Roca?s prior customers have agreed to serve as witnesses. Most others declined to respond, wishing to not get involved, out of fear that Roca would retaliate against them for testifying. Those concerns proved to be well-founded, as Roca threatened all three of the witnesses Opinion Corp. identified. The timing of its aggression against these three women makes its intentions transparent ? Roca wants to intimidate them and any other potential witnesses in this case.
As for Ms. Walsh and Ms. Anderson, it has been in excess of three years since they lodged their complaints with the Better Business Bureau. Roca threatened litigation at the outset, demanding they retract their complaints. Roca then went completely silent for more than three years. However, after such a long period of dormancy Roca now seeks to threaten imminent legal action against these witnesses. Nothing could have motivated Roca to reach out to these women after such a long period other than to try and intimidate witnesses in this case.
The filing only seeks a rather brief temporary restraining order, asking the court to block Roca from any such threats or lawsuits until after the October 8th hearing in this case, when it’s likely the judge will determine if the original gag order from Roca Labs is legit. As Randazza notes, the only possible “harm” to Roca is delaying a possible lawsuit by less than two weeks (which seems completely minor given that Roca Labs ignored the issue with at least two of the customers in question for over three years). Furthermore, Randazza asks for any and all communications with those and other potential witnesses in the case to make sure that there hasn’t been anything else that might be deemed witness harassment or intimidation.